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Old 03-06-2007, 08:05 PM
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Default Wow..250cc 2 stroke

..had a proper run out on my new NSR250SP MC28.....bare in mind its a 94 so not new..LOL.....aint been on a 2 stroke for a while and am used to my 916SP Duke...so always power..LOL

...so to the petrol station and carefully calculate litres of petrol to oil (premix)...then shake the mix and i bet that looks funny ....so riding as its tuned to around 60bhp weighs fuck all its lost any torque it might have had std..so now its nothing nothing a bit more then FUCK..i really cant beleive how quick it is...it was never a UK bike as it was too expensive..like 6k NEW for a 250cc ...its hard work though you have to really work it to keep it on song..if you want to overtake its down about 4 gears to find atleast 9000rpm..then change up at around 13000rpm ....raced a bike on a private road ...i was hitting max speed (130 mph) he was having a job keeping with me..when i slowed up he rode past in disbeleif thumbs up...guess what bike..only a fucking Duke 996 ........

The handling is the best i have ridden..my Duke is just nowhere near as flickable...youd need a 130+straight to pass an NSR250

No Cossie talk here...we all know a Rod could blitz everything.....well not round b-roads i reckon my little 250cc could whoop it

2 strokes rule

..and yes my first bike after i passed my test was a 6 month old Pepsi RG500.....
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i want a big 2 stroke after having a play on my mates 125 honda road bike, bigger card ect,
went straight up to 105, and revved so hard
Old 03-06-2007, 08:19 PM
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Phil, does the NSR not mix the oil/fuel automatically?

Always fancied an RGV250 myself. My bike instructor had an RG500 (this was in 1991) and I loved the exhaust arrangement and the smell. But not the fuel consumption


Enjoy yourself, Phil.
Ringa ding ding ding ding
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..yes it does from std mix it but for reliability they blank it off...i had an RD500LC that i bought with premix it fucked me off but upon asking Stan Stevens the 2 stroke guru he recommended running the racers premix to get a proper mix to all cylinders...he reckoned that what blows alot up.

BUT the biggest killer of a 2 stroke is DET..just like a YB ..when you derestrict an NSR the ECU is fooled to think you are in 3rd gear above 3rd gear lol..so you keep that ignition curve so only super unleaded can be used..its a complex 250...nothing like the RGV etc UK bikes.
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i was reading in this months bike magazine about some of the 50cc 2 strokes used on the TT over the years. they were getting silly with 9 gears and then 19 gears
Old 03-06-2007, 08:42 PM
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Phil - any pics?

I'm thinking about learning to ride, and am just generally interested.
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..Rich no..sorry will take some when i next get it out

..i always say to people i know who want to take up biking at an older age..be careful...as i lost my best mate thru that circumstance RIP John even though it happened 20 years ago ..i say if you survive biking from riding from 16 - 20years you fucking lucky....everytime i ride there is a possibility i wont come back..but hey thats living ,yes?..Adrenaline is a BITCH and will be the death of me unless a hater gets there first
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My mate had an SP, is yours the one with the dry clutch? he too used to wipe the floor with much more exotic bikes Complete scratchin tool with a set of sticky cut slicks

Another mate of mine fitted an RG500 engine in an RGV frame... that was just insane
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Yep dry clutch,magnesium wheels etc etc etc
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RichardPON if you're thinking of it, it already means you will do it - may as well make it sooner rather than later
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i worked on 2 stroke engines for years (moto-x) but now most moto-x bikes are 4 stroke!
the catch is,,,, you can race a double capicity 4 stroke bike in a set class, ie; you can race a 250cc 4 stroke in the 125cc class
the 4 stroke mx bikes sound awesome though
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Originally Posted by GUZZLER
i worked on 2 stroke engines for years (moto-x) but now most moto-x bikes are 4 stroke!
the catch is,,,, you can race a double capicity 4 stroke bike in a set class, ie; you can race a 250cc 4 stroke in the 125cc class
the 4 stroke mx bikes sound awesome though

Matt how did you get on earlyer on the crosser i had to leave early due to my m8 having to drive back to essex
I sore sassy and the boys before i left but you were back out on the track
I got to get my 250cc up there but need need to have a play when its not to busy and learn abit more
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dont see many 2 strokes anymore

i have a kawasaki kr-1 in pieces here

carnt remember for love or money how to put the thing back together
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Since around 2003 ive wanted to get into 250cc racing..but not in a bike.. in one of these



Unfortunatly you have to be a little rich boy to racing something like that so... Poop theres me out
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..the kr1 was a nice bike in its day
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Originally Posted by xr4x4rs
dont see many 2 strokes anymore
Hundreds of the bastards here



Oh, you meant bikes and not scooters
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Originally Posted by Bosch_Dealer
..yes it does from std mix it but for reliability they blank it off...i had an RD500LC that i bought with premix it fucked me off but upon asking Stan Stevens the 2 stroke guru he recommended running the racers premix to get a proper mix to all cylinders...he reckoned that what blows alot up.

BUT the biggest killer of a 2 stroke is DET..just like a YB ..when you derestrict an NSR the ECU is fooled to think you are in 3rd gear above 3rd gear lol..so you keep that ignition curve so only super unleaded can be used..its a complex 250...nothing like the RGV etc UK bikes.
Thanks for explanation, Phil.

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Originally Posted by nickymi2
Since around 2003 ive wanted to get into 250cc racing..but not in a bike.. in one of these



Unfortunatly you have to be a little rich boy to racing something like that so... Poop theres me out
i got one of them,,, sat in my garage ... used it on the road aswell



oh i tell a lie,,, i gave it too a friend about a month ago as i didnt have time to rebuild it

250 go-carts are AMAZINGLY fast !

i always wanted an rs250 phil,, but never passed my test and im too scaried of bikes now after ive know a few losses
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
im too scaried of bikes now after ive know a few losses
People also die in car crashes, but we still drive em
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Originally Posted by Big G
Originally Posted by GARETH T
im too scaried of bikes now after ive know a few losses
People also die in car crashes, but we still drive em
whats the funny face for?
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
Originally Posted by Big G
Originally Posted by GARETH T
im too scaried of bikes now after ive know a few losses
People also die in car crashes, but we still drive em
whats the funny face for?

..your welsh


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Originally Posted by Bosch_Dealer
Originally Posted by GARETH T
Originally Posted by Big G
Originally Posted by GARETH T
im too scaried of bikes now after ive know a few losses
People also die in car crashes, but we still drive em
whats the funny face for?

..your welsh


Better than any explanation I could have give
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ill let you off then
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APPARENTLY, BY THE HOUR, YOU ARE 21 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BE INJURED ON A HORSE THAN A MOTORBIKE

sorry about caps
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Check this out... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk:80/ws/eBayISAP...8136&rd=1&rd=1

How much work has gone into that? it'll be insane of the road, I doubt much would stay with it
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
APPARENTLY, BY THE HOUR, YOU ARE 21 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BE INJURED ON A HORSE THAN A MOTORBIKE

sorry about caps
im scaried of horses aswell though
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
Originally Posted by foreigneRS
APPARENTLY, BY THE HOUR, YOU ARE 21 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BE INJURED ON A HORSE THAN A MOTORBIKE

sorry about caps
im scaried of horses aswell though
Bikes, horses, commitment - is there ANYTHING you're NOT scared of ?
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Sheep!
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i'd say he's not scared of going out looking like a spaz after seeing pictures of that haircut
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i used to swaer by 2 strokes when i was younger but i must say i love 4 strokes now.
i do love the honda 250's looks though, one of the best looking bikes of all time! imo
the best compramise is a 400 as they are light and have good handling and flickability.
my old nc30's and zxr 400's used to do 140mph which is all you need really on the road.
i never met one bike that could keep up through twisty tight roads, 400's rule.
my fave at the mo:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HONDA-RVF400-R...QQcmdZViewItem
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how did this turn into a abuse gareth post
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heres a lovely updated NS400 that recently sold

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ROTHMANS-HONDA...ayphotohosting
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