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Old 20-05-2007, 01:59 AM
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as above,just need to no who can map this,does anyone know if christian & becky can do this,thanks
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Jamsport are the fellas to talk to for all things GoTech
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Jamsport are the fellas to talk to for all things GoTech
yes that is were i got it from,the car got mapped 4-5 weeks ago but im sure i can feel it holdig back at the top end of the rev range,nothink should be broke as its all new
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Surely taking it back to them would be your first port of call, I am sure Jamie will be able to offer good advice on why it might be holding back.
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According to the Gotech website there is only one official distributor and dealer in the UK and that is Jamsport which I guess means your choice of mappers is rather limited
Its the main thing that put me off GoTech
Old 20-05-2007, 09:36 AM
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as above,just need to no who can map this,does anyone know if christian & becky can do this,thanks
I map Gotech, up in Scotland. but try Jamie first.
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Old 20-05-2007, 12:12 PM
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as above,just need to no who can map this,does anyone know if christian & becky can do this,thanks
I map Gotech, up in Scotland. but try Jamie first.
Simon.
i need to get a better turbo anyway, i think my t3 stage 3 is limitin g it now at 253bhp,whats the limit of my turbo? been looking at the gt series
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Surely ANY mapper can map this system as it aftermarket and will come
with suitable PC software.

If it cant whats the point of it, may as well just stick to standard management
and have it live mapped. !
Old 20-05-2007, 03:52 PM
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When jamsport supplied your ECU did they give you a coppy of the mapping software on CD?

They should have as it is part of the package from Gotech.

If not go back and ask for it then any decent mapper will be able to do it after 15 mins familarisation.
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Anybody can map gotech as the software is availible on the internet, but you might have a new engine but whats to say you have got the wrong combination of parts on there which is causing the probelm and not the mapping......
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Originally Posted by Garage19
When jamsport supplied your ECU did they give you a coppy of the mapping software on CD?

They should have as it is part of the package from Gotech.

If not go back and ask for it then any decent mapper will be able to do it after 15 mins familarisation.
no mate didnt get the softwareGarage19 have you a price for flocking mk3 dash tryed the site and emailed but no reply cheers
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Originally Posted by Pimp Daddy Butch
Anybody can map gotech as the software is availible on the internet, but you might have a new engine but whats to say you have got the wrong combination of parts on there which is causing the probelm and not the mapping......
maybe wrong cam,im going to try a newman and better turbo
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Originally Posted by LS35A
Surely ANY mapper can map this system as it aftermarket and will come
with suitable PC software.

If it cant whats the point of it, may as well just stick to standard management
and have it live mapped. !
thats what i thought
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Originally Posted by NEWTON
Originally Posted by Garage19
When jamsport supplied your ECU did they give you a coppy of the mapping software on CD?

They should have as it is part of the package from Gotech.

If not go back and ask for it then any decent mapper will be able to do it after 15 mins familarisation.
no mate didnt get the softwareGarage19 have you a price for flocking mk3 dash tryed the site and emailed but no reply cheers
Can't find your mail in my inbox so I don't think i recieved it. Have popped you over a quote via PM.

Thanks,

Doug
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Click here to download the version 5.4 mapping software:
http://www.gotech.co.za/downloads/gotechv54.zip
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Other software and basemaps you will find here:
http://www.gotech.co.za/downloads.php
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Originally Posted by Garage19
Originally Posted by NEWTON
Originally Posted by Garage19
When jamsport supplied your ECU did they give you a coppy of the mapping software on CD?

They should have as it is part of the package from Gotech.

If not go back and ask for it then any decent mapper will be able to do it after 15 mins familarisation.
no mate didnt get the softwareGarage19 have you a price for flocking mk3 dash tryed the site and emailed but no reply cheers
Can't find your mail in my inbox so I don't think i recieved it. Have popped you over a quote via PM.

Thanks,cheers doug,ill be intouch very soon thanks

Doug
Old 21-05-2007, 05:46 PM
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I am sorry that you were unable to discuss the shortfalls of your engine with us at Jamsport.

But I feel that I should point out that after we mapped the car I explaned that your disaspointment in power was due to a mismatch of engine and turbo componants.
We optimised the fuel and ignition to your engine and offered some advice towards a better engine spec.

You are welcome to bring the car back one evening and we will have another look.

Regards,
Jamie.
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Jam-sport,

A good offer

A small question

Why are you allowed to keep your trader name without being a trader then ?
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Originally Posted by LS35A
Jam-sport,

A good offer

A small question

Why are you allowed to keep your trader name without being a trader then ?

why does he need to be a trader to have jam-sport as his name he is not selling goods or advertising
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Originally Posted by sbd16v
Originally Posted by LS35A
Jam-sport,

A good offer

A small question

Why are you allowed to keep your trader name without being a trader then ?

why does he need to be a trader to have jam-sport as his name he is not selling goods or advertising
Because thats the rules since the recent changes, and it applies to all.

So Jam-Sport will no doubt be asked to change it to Jamie or something.


Anyway, away from that and back to what he actually posted, sounds like a pretty reasonable and not very uncommon explanation.

I know LOTS of people who have put together a mismatch of parts in the past and then expected a tuner to work miracles around it that just isnt possible, Lee with the cav turbo for example!
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Originally Posted by Jam-sport
I am sorry that you were unable to discuss the shortfalls of your engine with us at Jamsport.

But I feel that I should point out that after we mapped the car I explaned that your disaspointment in power was due to a mismatch of engine and turbo componants.
We optimised the fuel and ignition to your engine and offered some advice towards a better engine spec.

You are welcome to bring the car back one evening and we will have another look.

Regards,
Jamie.
cheers jamie,but im looking in to a better turbo,and a better spec camshaft,and maybe a tubular manifold,just got to save some pennies up first,if i was to go for a gt 30 what sioze of exaust housing would you recomend,i dont want to buy wrong parts thanks craig
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by sbd16v
Originally Posted by LS35A
Jam-sport,

A good offer

A small question

Why are you allowed to keep your trader name without being a trader then ?

why does he need to be a trader to have jam-sport as his name he is not selling goods or advertising
Because thats the rules since the recent changes, and it applies to all.

So Jam-Sport will no doubt be asked to change it to Jamie or something.


Anyway, away from that and back to what he actually posted, sounds like a pretty reasonable and not very uncommon explanation.

I know LOTS of people who have put together a mismatch of parts in the past and then expected a tuner to work miracles around it that just isnt possible, Lee with the cav turbo for example!
im not slagging jamie,it not his fault,im just a bit dissipointed with all the cash ive put in to the car,maybe i expected to much,but carnt fault jamies work he was mapping for hours fairplay to him,im going to buy a few more parts and phone jamie into the near future cheers
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Originally Posted by LS35A
Jam-sport,

A good offer

A small question

Why are you allowed to keep your trader name without being a trader then ?
who cares
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Originally Posted by NEWTON
Originally Posted by LS35A
Jam-sport,

A good offer

A small question

Why are you allowed to keep your trader name without being a trader then ?
who cares

Actually I do.

I had to change mine..
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out of curiousity whats the spec of the engine and what components are mis-matched ?
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Newton, sorry mate I obviously just read too much into what you were saying
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Newton, sorry mate I obviously just read too much into what you were saying
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Originally Posted by UnseenMenace
out of curiousity whats the spec of the engine and what components are mis-matched ?
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what turbo you running dude?
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I dont know enough about RST's to comment on the cam specs etc, but sounds like a generally impressive list of parts, should certainly be a stong bottom end if it was built right
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Originally Posted by series_one_rst
what turbo you running dude?
sorry,stage 3 turbo technics hybrid
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
I dont know enough about RST's to comment on the cam specs etc, but sounds like a generally impressive list of parts, should certainly be a stong bottom end if it was built right
yes very strong,was hoping for 300bhp,but the turbo probery couldnt do that,gt30 on the way
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and what bhp did you get?
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Originally Posted by series_one_rst
and what bhp did you get?
253bhp,hit 280ish but was detin
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thats not bad at all from a 1600. is it low comp?

if its detonating the engine set up (timing, temps etc) cant take the boost so doesn`t sound as if the turbo is giving up on ya.
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Originally Posted by series_one_rst
thats not bad at all from a 1600. is it low comp?

if its detonating the engine set up (timing, temps etc) cant take the boost so doesn`t sound as if the turbo is giving up on ya.
comp is a bit higher than standard,runnig 22psi
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WHAT!! bit higher!! surely not. to run over 15 psi on standard comp you should have water injection to help with detonating. that cant be right, do you know the comp ratio?
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Originally Posted by series_one_rst
thats not bad at all from a 1600. is it low comp?

if its detonating the engine set up (timing, temps etc) cant take the boost so doesn`t sound as if the turbo is giving up on ya.
If the turbo is struggling to flow more air at the top end then the only option Jamie would have left to try and eek every last bhp out of it would be to both gradually lean it out and increase more timing in a desperate big to increase the BHP per Lb of air.

So if the turbo was struggling at the top end it could easily do exactly what is described.

Also if its spinning its tits off it could be introducing a lot of heat that could lead to det as well.




Conversely it could be the head is too restrictive and causing the same effect.


It could also be that the exhaust side of the turbo is increasing pumping losses on the engine.



Basically, it could be lots of things with those symptoms, including the thing you say it cant be!
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Originally Posted by series_one_rst
WHAT!! bit higher!! surely not. to run over 15 psi on standard comp you should have water injection to help with detonating. that cant be right, do you know the comp ratio?
its in the mapping m8 8.5-1,calibre turbo runs 9.0-1


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