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Old 17-05-2007, 04:56 PM
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It was a long day yesterday but well worth it.

Thanks to Stu and Kenny for keeping me full of KFC

You have to be near the car to appreciate the sound it makes

Roll on coil per plug



Originally Posted by Bosch Dealer
......nice to be supplying a part in this project

Bosch Dealer is never far away from most developments

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Originally Posted by abdr500
on a t4 thats good work i will be buying one off you as soon as this comes out but ther is 1 thing i was lead to belive that t4 wount do anti lag or does that t4 have a different shaft
It's been available since the RP labs ECU has been out, just not with Stu's maps .
Cant see what that reply has to do with the question ?

Surely, ALS has been available on expensive aftermarket ecu's for ages !
Old 17-05-2007, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 4x4 ste
Originally Posted by boosthappy1
Well done Stu and kenny.

I cant wait to pick the car up with ste and see his face
at every set of lights.
You cant wait!!! its gonna be pop pop bang boom "wtf oh shit there goes the diff" lol

Oh and dont pull up too close behind me
Throw a spare diff in the van before we set off
as we may need it.
Old 17-05-2007, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Stavros
Originally Posted by EssexMikeSi
stupid question alert but how well would this work on a cossie managed rs turbo which would have just a t3 or t34?
perfectly well.

esp as 99% of people will have these functions just for noise and flames reasons.
Why else would I want it



Well done to MSD though, really impressive what you have been able to achieve.

Old 17-05-2007, 05:20 PM
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this sounds great..........think im going to be investing in it


stu how much would it cost to have my t4.maram shafted to take this???
Old 18-05-2007, 08:40 AM
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Sorry Colin, we dont supply turbo's.
Old 18-05-2007, 11:26 PM
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Stu, please try and leave me some rear tyres to get home on Just barely legal will do

p.s. i know you said it does 70mph in first but have you hit 100mph in second??? or do you think it will????

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I think its been too wet for some serious grief

Besides, you dont need to go fast to scare the shit out of everyone.

My poor ears
Old 18-05-2007, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by LS35A
I think its been too wet for some serious grief

Besides, you dont need to go fast to scare the shit out of everyone.

My poor ears


Thanks for all your input and help mate much appreciated
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4x4 ste,

No problem. It was fun. Reminded me of what I am missing
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i cant wait to get mine back and ive only been without it a couple of weeks I cant really imagine not having one, this is my 9th one after trying to get away from them i just get dragged back to them every time
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MSD comes good again

ive used MSD software on my rally car for years on P8, so i think i must have been part of the development (my claim to fame)
the whole ALS system when used correctly works great and the mods required are very simple, i had been developing differant air bypass methods for my own car with differant amounts of retard with Kenny for a long time, now im glad its all coming to fruition for all the time Kenny and stu have spent making my car how i wanted it.
Two stage ALS is also a very simple operation, and any one who says they cant run two valves on P8 doesnt know what they are doing.

now that this is here for L8 more power to the masses really.

it goes without saying that my new car will be sorted by MSD, but now that you can all have my functions we will have to think of something else
Old 19-05-2007, 11:48 AM
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Yessaaaa !

Might put that on the escos
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In regards to the launch control, could you hook it up to the ABS sensors so it knows to turn off when you reach a certain speed? Its probably not possible, just an idea. I don't know the ins and outs of what the ECU can do.
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Originally Posted by rs nutter
In regards to the launch control, could you hook it up to the ABS sensors so it knows to turn off when you reach a certain speed? Its probably not possible, just an idea. I don't know the ins and outs of what the ECU can do.
That is a VERY interesting idea....
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by rs nutter
In regards to the launch control, could you hook it up to the ABS sensors so it knows to turn off when you reach a certain speed? Its probably not possible, just an idea. I don't know the ins and outs of what the ECU can do.
That is a VERY interesting idea....
I`ve been looking at this too.......

Can find a square wave at the abs ecu so a speed pulse is no problem,and should be a doddle to make a small converter to switch the input to the L8....

Leave it with me...
Old 19-05-2007, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by rs nutter
In regards to the launch control, could you hook it up to the ABS sensors so it knows to turn off when you reach a certain speed? Its probably not possible, just an idea. I don't know the ins and outs of what the ECU can do.
That is a VERY interesting idea....
Lol stole it from Steven Gault who specialises in aftermarket management - DTA Emerald etc. Its what he uses on Rally cars to deactiveate the LC. But i think the DTA has a specific input for this, I have no idea if the cossie management has the capability to sense wheel speed?

If its possible, i think it would be a far easier/neater way to turn the LC off
Old 19-05-2007, 08:25 PM
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Ivwe mapped it with wheel sensors on many managemnt systems, i just never thought of going that step further for the L8 system... its dfinately an interesting idea.
Old 19-05-2007, 08:35 PM
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is this als/launch avalible to EVERYONE?If so i am deffo interested.
Old 19-05-2007, 08:38 PM
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Will a normal turbo survive with this or is best to get a Mar-M 247 equipped one?

If used a few times a year I mean, from a stand at the stop lights on the "local race track".
Old 19-05-2007, 08:43 PM
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Andreas a std turbo will be fine for short bursts you just dont want to do a b-road rally stage If you do i suggest a EGT gauge and a co pilot who has his eyes purely on it LOL
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I agree. A standard turbo should be well up to occasional road use.
Old 19-05-2007, 09:36 PM
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Stu, are u willing to divulge what the timing figures uses for ALS are?
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Originally Posted by Rick
Stu, are u willing to divulge what the timing figures uses for ALS are?
No. And not just because im a mniserable twat, but because it totally depends on teh turbo your trying to spool and teh engins VE your trying to spool it with.

Look between 1 and 70deg ATDC for ALS and up to 90 for LC.
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Thats fine, i anticipated around 20ATDC as a starting point

Is AFR actually measurable in the antilag state? I imagine there is a lot of fuel that is unburnt.
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Originally Posted by Rick
Thats fine, i anticipated around 20ATDC as a starting point

Is AFR actually measurable in the antilag state? I imagine there is a lot of fuel that is unburnt.
No its not, as teh HC's are too high. Fuelling is anticipated by various other means such as apparent turbine energy and egt.
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ive already got EGT gauge and 2 soare swithches on dash just waiting for stus say so on when hes start selling them
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Originally Posted by Roosie
just waiting for stus say so on when hes start selling them
Next Friday latest pal.
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by Roosie
just waiting for stus say so on when hes start selling them
Next Friday latest pal.
More importantly who much Stu ?
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sorry if i missed a post but do u need a modded throttle body
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Originally Posted by B9KOS
More importantly who much Stu ?
Retail prices and options are yet to be finalised, sorry. That said, any existing customers who have my maps (OTS or otherwise) allready can call and we will arrange a pre-launch deal right now. I sold a couple on Friday.


Originally Posted by Roosie
sorry if i missed a post but do u need a modded throttle body
For Launch Control:
No. You dont need anything at all.

For Anti Lag:
Depends on the extent you wish the ALS to work.

1)We can mod your own ISCV to give Mild ALS and still retain 100% ISCV operation.

2) You can mod teh throttle body and use a top hat ISCV, but be aware they are prone to sticking and will not work as an ISCV ever again.

3) You can add an external ALS valve, but this requires you add ports to your system to bypass the throttle body. Working this way will also retain ISCV control during non als operation.



It depends on teh level of ALS you require.
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Cheers Stu I imagine the ferocity is purely down to how much air u can get to the turbine. I got some work to do
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Hmmmmmmmm

Stu, You know i gonna want one

Keep up the good work

Paul
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Originally Posted by Rick
Cheers Stu I imagine the ferocity is purely down to how much air u can get to the turbine. I got some work to do
Yes, and teh more air and fuel you process, the more you need to retard to stop the engine from accelerating, as you need to dump that energy elsewhere...
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back in the fuel tank would be nice
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Ivwe mapped it with wheel sensors on many managemnt systems, i just never thought of going that step further for the L8 system... its dfinately an interesting idea.

You're very close to launch control with traction control for gravel/snow done by boost control as done on Motec for example....


Incredible.
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you cossy boys do get excited over a few pops and bangs

Fair play though stu, you certainly got skills
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by Rick
Cheers Stu I imagine the ferocity is purely down to how much air u can get to the turbine. I got some work to do
Yes, and the more air and fuel you process, the more you need to retard to stop the engine from accelerating, as you need to dump that energy elsewhere...
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Stu what results do you get when just adding it on without any mods to the ISCV re Anti-Lag? I am guessing an expensive flamer kit LOL?????
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by B9KOS
More importantly who much Stu ?
Retail prices and options are yet to be finalised, sorry. That said, any existing customers who have my maps (OTS or otherwise) allready can call and we will arrange a pre-launch deal right now. I sold a couple on Friday.

I'll phone you tomorrow
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Originally Posted by rs nutter
In regards to the launch control, could you hook it up to the ABS sensors so it knows to turn off when you reach a certain speed? Its probably not possible, just an idea. I don't know the ins and outs of what the ECU can do.
Is this not how some other launch control systems work anyway. ?
I'm no expert either' Just a question


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