Anyone had much experience with these?

Been offered one, and unsure, as i've always known quiafes to be a little bit pony, other than their 6 spd sequential.

From what i've been told i think its pretty much an identical box to the MT75 without the transverse box.

What sort of torque are these good for?

 

http://www.quaife.co.uk/Contact-Us

 

cheeky coont!

already done that

And they rate there boxes at 275bhp, and i know for a fact the Decom car runs a sequential quiafe and has 700bhp so that cant be right.

 

I thought they had different versions? A smaller cheaper one for cars that normally run Type9 boxes etc rated at under 300bhp, and a beasty one good for mega power thats more expensive?

Im sure they did last time I looked.

 

As Steve says, its the type 9 replacement ones that are rated to 275bhp dunno about the others though

 

well there is nothing else on there site

 

nothing under ford

but found this, so i guess this is their big daddy box

http://www.quaife.co.uk/Dodge-Viper-...Quaife-gearbox

 

thats the fucker, im sure in the catalogues they had "bellhousings to suit RS500s and other vehicles available" or something along them lines

 

The viper box will take the power, Quaife are a shit company tho and keep nothing on the shelf for that box , i had one last year and went through this with them ! quaife use a Male and female dog system which is agriculturla , slow and wears out gears instead of dog rings .
If you want better value and a proper box see here .

http://www.drenth-gearboxes.com/files/MPG.pdf hope that works ok !

 

saw the drenth box u had for sale tony, but was way out of my budget.

plus dont fancy a sequential on the road.

 

Then you definitely dont want a quaife dog box for a road car , whats wrong with a T5 and a Bernie kit then ?

 

Quaife are pants. An ex-mate of mine broke 3 with under 500 hp and gentle driving

 

exactly!

have you ever driven a proper dog box on the road? a sequential is deffo more userfriendly, tho saying either is user friendly is deffo a relative term!

 

Ryan....

The older mt75 dog boxes in 4WD configuration have a rubbish gear change, only ever owned one in a car we hired out and the guy hiring the car got blisters on the palm of his hand driving the car in competetion, I believe they have improved but i'd wouldn't have one in a car I was running on the road. Service aint good off quaife and if its an older 3 dog you cant get spares....

Save your pennies and get the box you want rather than making do....you wont regret it pal...


Ian

 

Tony, i've heard of a people people having problems with the t5 kits.

Steve, i havent driven a dog box on the road, only on track, and thought it was ok.

Ian, i know mate, but im not 100% which box i want.

A road box which is perfect on the road and will take the power or just about depending on the box choice, but i dont know how it will fair on track as i dont know anyone with the same hp/trq who has ventured on track, road box i mean a tremec tko, t56 or TVR tremec box. As in my eyes a quick 1 minute blat through the gears isnt quite the same as 30 mins on track up and down through the gear constantly.

Or i get a track based box, i.e straight/dog, which will be depending on the choice, noisey, and sometimes a pain to use, but will take the power no problem and will be perfect on the track.

I know its a compromise whichever way i go but i dont know which way i would want to go.

In an ideal world i would buy the sequential quiafe box thats industructable and just live with it on the road, as to be honest most of the time im going to be driving it on the road, im going to be driving it hard, its not like my car is going to be a sunday shopping car, but i do still want to retain some sort of comfort hence why i never caged the car, as in my eyes i could of bought plenty of other cars and deffo not a cossy if i wanted a caged car.

 

Using a dog box on the road is a bit of a silly idea.......

The dogs wear out really quickly and need a complete rebuild at least every season when rallying and thats probably over about 500 competitive miles.

You can use the clutch to help with the life of the box but they are not made for the road for a reason....

Stick with a syncro shift box, with straight cut gears for big power....try Tremec, they are used in big torque yank-tanks....

Quaife are very conservative with their BHP figures.

 

after much thought, i think a syncro box is the only option, as 80% of the time the car is going to be driven on the road.

Now just need to decide what one to go for.

 

ryan i thought you said you was having a tko box because you was going to borrow rods bell housing ages ago
tko pisses all over the t5 in every way and its a brand new item gear change is so fast aswell due to 3 rail selector

 

yeah brom, i've got all the measurements needed for the TKO conversion, just weighing up all the options.

Im 100% sure i dont want a t5 variation.

 

YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE !!!!!!!!!!!

 

BROM@ZOO
how much is a box like that

 

they are around £1800 last time i got one i used to get trade at a place but they had to stop doing it on transmisons stuff i used to get a box for £1050 yrs ago due to the price increase i tell customers now to buy there own box as i dont make a penny on the box just a bit on parts
bell housing
spigot bearing
clutch
center push
rear mount
rearprop parts
a billet alloy lever is avalible aswell

 

what power is that box good for.

will you have to mod the back to fit the prop on.

 

dave cos4x4
you have to mod the prop to fit the prop on

BROM@ZOO
that is a good price i might have to get one when i blow my box up

 

yeah im looking around now at prices, just need someone to buy one on my behalf, DREADED VAT!



dave cos, there good for over 800hp!

 

yes dave ya do have to the box is alot bigger than the t5 box

 

I have used both the Quaife 6 speed dog box and the sequential in my Skyline. The engine made 773 bhp so reasonably powerful. The h pattern one was useless. It went back 4 times to Quaife to stop it popping out of 5th gear. They failed each time. I then upgraded to the 1000 bhp sequential with the stronger supra spline input shaft. Ron Kiddell bent the input shatf and knackered a couple of gears within 100 mile without even launching it. It was fixed and put back in the car. It rattled its tits off. Out it came and more bits swapped. It then did about 150 miles and lost gears 1,2,3. It has now been removed.
Quite an expensive exercise!!

 

Ryan, when looking for my sequential box, I spoke to quaiffe about their 275 BHP rated box and they were not confident at all about it ability to take anything above that.

I also spoke to one of their stockists in Ireland about the big boy 6 speed sequential and they told me its a very very heavy box and not recomended.

 

thanks lads.

 

seems like the TKO is the kind of only option on a new box scenerio, that is garaunteed to take the power and still remain a good road box.

 

so who can do me a nice deal on a tremec tko 600 then?

Cash obviously, probably only need box only, maybe hydraulic clutch and yoke output aswell.

Cheers

 

what problems have you seen with the CTS box then?

 

Hi, why don't you get a Getrag box from an old BMW 635, they are tried and tested, fairly easy to find, all you need is a bellhousing and longer input shaft.
They work very well in the Group "A" sierra's with a fast smooth change and little boost drop on change.

Andy

 

racer, i've researched this option fully and its a getrag 265 box, however the Grp A 500 version was completely different internals.

I've got a 265 box on hold, as you say they are penny's to pick up and the company to the conversion have done a few, some people on this board will know who they are.

But i like the idea of a crisp new box with the change being so smooth and precise, rather than a 20yr old box, and no one seems to want to quote me to rebuild a 265 box.

 

Hi Ryan, it's good to see somebody who does a bit of checking around, yes, the box is a 265, yes, the internal's are different but not enough to stop you using one, Dennis Osbourne used to service mine, if you go down that route I have a brand new genuine mag bellhousing to fit upto a cosworth block.

Andy

 

andy u have a pm and an email

 

Sounds like a wallet breaker!

What did you upgrade to then?

 

It was a wallet breaker. I have now ordered the OS Giken gearkit with a holinger input spline. Not sequential unfortunately but the price difference was massive