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Old 18-09-2004 | 01:43 PM
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Old 18-09-2004 | 01:45 PM
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was talking to field motorsport the otherday and tom said he had built a couple 750bhp engines the otherday



but these were for rallycross, only do like four laps or spomething before rebuild
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Yes, the Norweigan guys seem to have it fairly well sewn up.

Their 775bhp Escos initally springs to mind......
Old 18-09-2004 | 02:38 PM
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yes, got to be loads out there really if you include drag engines, rally cross, hillclimbers, and mad road cars..

I bet very few people go to Tescos everyday in one though!
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You have the WRC escos, approx 770 bhp, Ruud with his M3 (cosworth engine) with a claimed output of 780 bhp and i read about a swedish escos with 740? bhp...

ooh, and i almost forgot... the old BTCC RS 500, the white, with (claimed) 800 bhp..
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Originally Posted by gus
was talking to field motorsport the otherday and tom said he had built a couple 750bhp engines the otherday



but these were for rallycross, only do like four laps or spomething before rebuild
Old 18-09-2004 | 02:48 PM
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Rod Tarry (but he cheats )

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Originally Posted by gus
was talking to field motorsport the otherday and tom said he had built a couple 750bhp engines the otherday



but these were for rallycross, only do like four laps or spomething before rebuild
They dont need rebuilding that often
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suppose using race fuel aint cheating
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Originally Posted by Benn 304R
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was talking to field motorsport the otherday and tom said he had built a couple 750bhp engines the otherday



but these were for rallycross, only do like four laps or spomething before rebuild
They dont need rebuilding that often
depends how big the laps are
Old 18-09-2004 | 02:52 PM
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Well Dermots focus had to be rebuilt only once last year and that was due to an injector failing i think.
I know they strip the gearboxes very regulary
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and karl norris' 3door
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ill shake the mans hand wen he proves the 3dr, until then il take it with a pinch of salt
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LOL, I rate my own engine at 650bhp WITHOUT nitrous. With nitrous it's up to 800bhp.

My car is used as an everyday car and so far has covered 15,000miles without a rebuild.

Whilst you may dispute my engine's power output Ranj (when in reality its pretty obvious what sort of power it has given the spec) I think 15,000 trouble free miles speaks for itself really!! (Transmission excepted, )

Daz has the same 650bhp rated engine in his dolomite, again with 150bhp nitrous, so I'm sure you'll see very soon just what this spec engine is capable of.
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in a dolomite
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Yes, 800bhp in a 1000kg 25 year old dolomite!!
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his old dolomite was a very quick car
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Originally Posted by Karl
Yes, 800bhp in a 1000kg 25 year old dolomite!!
not gonna be slow then
When is he gonna put down some times?
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We have just finished the engine as we speak so Daz is currently fitting the transmission and running gear back in the car.

We shall be ready for first stage of mapping hopefully in around 2 weeks and completed within a month. (including running engine in etc)

Weather permitting I'm hoping we can get some initial timed runs before winter sets in.
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Nice one karl, what box/diffs is he using?
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tremec box last time i spoke to him
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Holy Mamma!! That spec engine in a dolly??

Jeeeeesus that will be interesting.........
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Tremec box with a 4X4 toyota hilux diff.

This WILL be changing though!
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cool, bet it will be bloody scary lol, I take its still 2wd?
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Yes its 2wd. I'm actually worried about daz's safety to be honest!!! ROFLOL
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RuudRacing in Norway dynoed 780bhp @ 8000rpm this tuesday, the dyno session is`nt finished yet, they are going to give harder ignition but not more boost..

on 8000rpm the hp curve was still rising due to VS motor "special homemade" camshafts and the boost was 2.0bar
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Is the dolomite going to be laser guided or heat seaking?
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Originally Posted by Karl
Yes, 800bhp in a 1000kg 25 year old dolomite!!
my grandad when he was alive had 2 dolomites neither had 800bhp but one did have an overdrive switch Daz's car is way cool IMO
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Yes, the Norweigan guys seem to have it fairly well sewn up.

Their 775bhp Escos initally springs to mind......
The wrc esccos are the most AMAZING car I have ever seen!!! And the man who owns it are NOT afraid to USE it HARD
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Has anyone seen or read anything more about that Norwegian 800BHP white RS500 touring car other than that small pic' in the PF mag' please
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Karl....ok i beleive you have potensially 650bhp if you up the boost...but as you say you normally run 550bhp.....and lets face it you cant really have done much anger driving in 15k as you said you keep breaking gearboxes...plus i heard you had std brakes/15 inch wheels?
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I've seen that dolly....! Trust me, it's all he sez it is!!!
I saw the car at oscotts in cov about 6mths(ish) back, and had a good peek under the bonnet.... (not much room there!) I'd love to have a go.... It SOUNDS amazing!!!
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Originally Posted by Stuart.W
Has anyone seen or read anything more about that Norwegian 800BHP white RS500 touring car other than that small pic' in the PF mag' please
i got some video of it looks er quick
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Just out of Interest Karl, what kind of times on 1/4 mile do u get, (if u do them that is)
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oh yeah and what kind of spec is Kevin Sharps escos, I hear alot about it only seen it once at crail, smoked a scooby!!
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Originally Posted by Stuart.W
Has anyone seen or read anything more about that Norwegian 800BHP white RS500 touring car other than that small pic' in the PF mag' please
yeah, i have seen it a couple of times... it is properly sweet...

it is gonna be featured in PF, but i don't know when.. but i hope it will be pretty soon..

i don't know much about the spec of the engine but a ex f1 turbo should make it pretty fast..
same turbo as the wrc excos has but only bigger

here are two pics..
http://lenangen.com/cars/pic2.jpg
http://lenangen.com/cars/pic6.jpg
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karl,


what ecu is daz using ?
and ignition system
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Hi Phil,

No to be fair I do drive the car pretty hard on the go. Where I am conservative is with the launch. By running around 550bhp I usually find I can manage around 3000 miles a box provided I'm fairly smooth with the power in 3rd gear. (as this is what breaks first)

When I run the car at 650bhp (Which is around 30psi) the box breaks within minutes.

However even though I tend to cap the boost to 24psi for the road (550bhp) I still rev the engine round to 8500 virtually every gear, so the engine does see all the acclerated wear rates associated with a high revving engine. As such I'm keeping a close eye on cylinder leakage rates and oil consumption as part of my ongoing assessment into making this spec of engine reliable as a road going engine!

As for the brakes and wheels, have you ever seen pic of my car phil? since the engine went in I run 17 inch split rims and very cool they look too!!!

The brakes are 300mm tarox 40 groove ventilated front and back but retain std 4 pot calipers and 4X4 rears. I use mintex 1155/66 pads and SRF fluid and whilst this is not the best setup it has been excellent for a road car!!

If I choose to run a bigger setup such as 330's with AP calipers the 17 inch split rims don't fit as the bolts foul the caliper. I keep looking for a solution and I think I'm just going to have to rebuild the split rims with a different low height nut on the inside so I can gain the clearance.

Along with the transmission these are the last things to do on my car before I'm 100% happy with it.
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Originally Posted by robhaugen
Originally Posted by Stuart.W
Has anyone seen or read anything more about that Norwegian 800BHP white RS500 touring car other than that small pic' in the PF mag' please

it is gonna be featured in PF, but i don't know when.. but i hope it will be pretty soon..
It has already been in pf last months i think.


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