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Old 19-09-2004 | 12:33 PM
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Has anyone had Harveys 630bhp conversion done yet?That must be good for 200 with nos
Old 19-09-2004 | 12:33 PM
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surely the jenspeed/godfrey car with 780bhp has enough non NOS BHP to hit 200 ?? but does it matter if it was done with or without NOS anyways i can see it allready before we know it NOS will be cheating feck so the Evo that was at TOTB is defo cheating cos thats runs fecking methonal doesnt it

martinlabbatts maybe we need two records with noss and one without,
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Old 19-09-2004 | 12:51 PM
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Why does everyone bang on about NOS being cheating?

The most common reason i hear is:
"It wont be fast when the NOS runs out"


Well ive got news for you guys:
"It wont be fast if your petrol runs out either"

So Maybe petrol is cheating too?

I personally see NOS as a great way to easily improve the power output of a more road friendly conversion.. its just a turbo in a bottle (Extra compressed air for the engine) so until Turbo's are classed as cheating, nos is cool with me
Old 19-09-2004 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Why does everyone bang on about NOS being cheating?

The most common reason i hear is:
"It wont be fast when the NOS runs out"


Well ive got news for you guys:
"It wont be fast if your petrol runs out either"

So Maybe petrol is cheating too?

I personally see NOS as a great way to easily improve the power output of a more road friendly conversion.. its just a turbo in a bottle (Extra compressed air for the engine) so until Turbo's are classed as cheating, nos is cool with me
Stu they will be bitching about what fecking wing mirriors it had fitted next
Old 19-09-2004 | 01:25 PM
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The object of the exersize was to get to 200mph, Which is what we achived there are no rules about it I even thought about farting to see if this would help but was unsure just in case I broke the rules ,
As I have said before the race is over I dont care if anyone beats it as I/Rod was the first ,
Stu Nos is ok used in the correct way .

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Old 19-09-2004 | 01:28 PM
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mark what gearbox did your escort run?
Old 19-09-2004 | 01:30 PM
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Gus it had a Shotpeaned Group N Standard box.

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Old 19-09-2004 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by madevelopments
Gus it had a Shotpeaned Group N Standard box.

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and it lasted coool who does shot peening??????
Old 19-09-2004 | 01:55 PM
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dont forget you have to drive the cars home aswell
Old 19-09-2004 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by martinrs500labatts
rod as i said before well done,

know you have been planning this for years,

but did you do any timed runs without noss? just out of interest.

maybe we need two records with noss and one without,

how many bottles of noss did you use,

was it one per run?

as this is a very exspenive way to get to 200 mph,

once again top job,

you did whot was required and got that magical 200 mph


just make sure you make next years totb and get your car up there with the top jap stuff.

Martin we used a 130shot @ 1000psi so prob 150.
Used in 4th & 5th only it use only 15secs per Top Speed run .
Did 10 0-150ish sprints Nitrous on in 2nd .
Total use of Nitrous during the day on my Nitrous 'on' timer showed 2m 24s
so less than 2 bottles.
I wont own the car by Totb 4 mate so who knows or cares.
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Old 19-09-2004 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by madevelopments
I even thought about farting to see if this would help but was unsure incase i followed through
Old 19-09-2004 | 03:08 PM
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dont forget spoilers, wheels, fook me the rules people make up when others make the goals that they want to achieve

i say to make and to rod also to sunny aswell, takes bigger balls to do 178 in a fiesta, sorry rod but its true

stil need big balls to do 200 in a saph, i wont go over 130 in a saph
Old 19-09-2004 | 05:06 PM
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Phil. Just stay calm mate. dont try to move. I'll call an ambulance. we'll get your head checked out.

You CANT be feeling right
Spooky! I just thought that too
Old 19-09-2004 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by b19bal
i takes bigger balls to do 178 in a fiesta, sorry rod but its true
AGREE!! , it also helps that Sunny is totally insane.
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Old 19-09-2004 | 05:55 PM
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Rod/mark..........how fast would the car have gone with "just" the 617bhp??????As Karl reckoned he did an easy 200mph with circa 650bhp (i am assuming Karl does NOT use NOS)
Old 19-09-2004 | 06:25 PM
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Phil, my engine runs 650bhp without Nos.

200mph is relatively effortless, and I believe this to be because in order to do 200mph only requires 8100rpm. Since my engine doesnt make peak torque until 7500rpm and then has very litte drop off in torque the bhp keeps rising, and thus its high rpm pull is superb. At present 8000+rpm misfires hamper any further increase in bhp + rpm and thus my next mod in the coming weeks is a move to coil packs to allow a further increase in boost. (obviously this is still awaiting the new transmission which is'nt long away now!)
Old 19-09-2004 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Karl
Phil, my engine runs 650bhp without Nos.

200mph is relatively effortless
Dude not to be funny, and I've always read your post with interest, but that has to be one of the worst things you've said!

Effertless?? if that was true then we'd all be doing 200mph!
Old 19-09-2004 | 06:43 PM
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Why is it one of the worst thing's I've said. I'm simply telling you that a 3dr cosworth with 650bhp with the gearing that suits it power band will pull 200mph without any fuss. Theres nothing effortless about building a 650bhp engine I can assure you, so in answer to your strange comment, the reason everyone can't do it because they don't have enough bhp/correct gearing etc.

Thats not to take anything away from Rod's fantastic result at brunters as that is within a confined distance.

This site truely amazes me. Why can't you openly discuss anything without people having to be funny!
Old 19-09-2004 | 06:48 PM
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It is an open discussion, don't take it personal. It was just an observation.
Old 19-09-2004 | 06:48 PM
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I wont own the car by Totb 4 mate so who knows or cares.
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Old 19-09-2004 | 06:52 PM
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No it was'nt an observation it was a belittling comment by yourself. Anyway enough of this horse shit, it's simply not worth discussing anything about powerfull YB engines. People on this site seem to have a serious jealousy problem IMO, as if you even suggest you may have an engine thats a little special, people love to shoot you down.
Old 19-09-2004 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MADRod
Originally Posted by Alg1k
So Mad horses are faster with a big shot of Nos
So if 200 is acheived without any nitrous assistance
Now that would be a proper engine
Sorry im so immature still i am only 22 so i suppose its ok to be

Are you telling me Mark got it wrong, you wait till you try it mate, then you will see.

Cheers Rod
200 mph in a Dolomite would be an acheivement
Hope he does it
Old 19-09-2004 | 07:03 PM
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LOL @ 22 daz.
Old 19-09-2004 | 07:06 PM
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22 he is a lying bastard
22 x6 more like
Old 19-09-2004 | 07:11 PM
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Karl They only try to shoot you down when you seem to be unwilling to prove it,
I hope your claim about 200mph being effortless at 650hp was down a long hill and not at Brunters,
I belive that being able to do 200mph at Brunters and drive home take you from being a person that tunes cars to a Super tuner Tell me if I am wrong or is it that easy Anyway I have already been there and done that and the first to do it, So I dont realy care if another tuner does it or beats me But I will go on and continue to push the boundaries with Sunnys and Ranj's.

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Old 19-09-2004 | 07:14 PM
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Why has Rods car got no side mirrors on ?
Old 19-09-2004 | 07:16 PM
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Mirrors = Drag means lower top speed

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Old 19-09-2004 | 07:20 PM
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Mark,

I find your attitude along with your customers pretty pathetic to be honest.

I could'nt care less about proving myself to an internet site. Going fast is all about money Mark. He who spends most goes fastest.

If you really do think you're a super tuner and better than everyone else, then I'm affraid your head is more up your own arse than sully and ganj put together!!! PMSL

I was going to say that I bet I've forgotten more about designing an engine than you know, but that would be pure arrogance and dropping myself to your level so for now I'll simply congratulate you on an excellent result as brunters, as you've achieved your task you set out to achieve!

As I did'nt build my car to prove any singular task it's of no direct significance to me if I can or can't beat that record at Brunters, though I'm sure at some time next year I'll have a top speed run there.
Old 19-09-2004 | 07:22 PM
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I find your attitude along with your customers pretty pathetic to be honest.
that can be said about you aswell tho karl
Old 19-09-2004 | 07:24 PM
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If you say so mate. Tis the way of t'internet.
Old 19-09-2004 | 07:29 PM
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Fookin am 22
Well thats what i tell the Birds
Karl ive Been fettling today looking bling now
Ran out of Argon though
Should be finished this week
Mark
No mirrors does that mean you wouldnt have got 200 ?
Just an observation like
Old 19-09-2004 | 07:31 PM
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Karl all I will say I am not a talker action speaks louder than words, You havent seen me post that 200mph is easy if fact it is not,
Go on a prove you have forgotten more than I know , I have never been shy of a shootout and have always been up for them, You only have to invest a couple of K in to you car to be able to prove it and yourself,
However as you say you have more important things in your life than proving something you dont seem to care about proving, I wish you all the best in not doing so .

Mark
Old 19-09-2004 | 07:33 PM
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karl please reply to one of me emails
Old 19-09-2004 | 07:33 PM
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Good stuff Daz, will pop round soon for a gander at latest progress.

I wonder if Mark Shead ports every head he uses himself, or makes every tubular manifold with his own fair hands? I wonder?


I also wonder if Ranj does much work himself? I can assure everyone on here that 95% of daz's dolomite is down to his own hard work. How many people can be that proud of what they've done?
Old 19-09-2004 | 07:35 PM
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Alg1K

If doing 200mph was easy we would all be doing it.

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Old 19-09-2004 | 07:36 PM
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Mark, I'm not going to get into a bitch fight with you, other than the little piss taking that has been said allready. If you think you're that good, you'd produce such major items such as the heads and manifolds yourself.
Old 19-09-2004 | 07:36 PM
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I learned alot from this thread, gearbox and engines, ect, ect, THEN it became ugly

Make sure you guys get outside at least ones a day


Cheers Kennert
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Karl So you are the best at everything but seem unwilling to show it ,I belive in finding the best people to do the job Jack of all trades master of none springs to mind

Mark
Old 19-09-2004 | 07:41 PM
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Mark,

I am not the best at everything, but I do find your attitude insulting, hence why I am retaliating with equivalent insults.

Answer the question mark? Do you port your own heads or make your own manifolds?
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Im outside all the time just pop on here occasionaly to have a laff
Karl took some pickys will send some over when down loaded

Mark better put the mirrors back on so you can see me coming to overtake you


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