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Well Ford have really hacked me off.
They have....

Virtually destroyed Jaguar,

Selling cosworth,

Selling Jag F1 team,

Stopping their WRC next year ,

Not making the New Fiesta ST Turbo,

Not making the cossie focus (AFAIK)

Lets hope they buy Subaru and shaft them in the same way.

Escy

seems like RS's are a thing of the past....

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No you can buy a Skoda Octavia RS.

Rich@rd

or an audi RS 4, 6

TIFF

Or a Porker RS

MadMac

POPEYE

or my arse

Ginge !

well then my cars gonna go up invalue

DOO

I work for the fookers just going down and down

Did you know FORD RALLYE SPORT has gone (FORD motorsport at borham beeen there ever since the 1st RS was made) Ford have closed it down no more FORD motorsport rallye sport etc...

Sold off all the cosys bits

WTF is going on

Rich@rd

Well ... the skoda is nice though

http://www.t16.ds.pwr.wroc.pl/~sosne...tavia_rs03.jpg

Stavros

Lancer EVO RS

Fords a money making company and guess they can see on the worldwide market they make more money by not fucking with small volume fast cars, and just sticking with normal family stuff.

Same reason they dont bother with WRC, the costs outweigh any small advetising gains.

Never understand why people have a love for a normal maintream car manufacturer anyhow. Like certain cars, but certain makes is jus bizare to me

phil4x4saph

Dont worry about Subaru, GM own them and in the states are already selling impreza estates as SAABs with a new bonnet/bumper/grill/lights package.
Modern SAABs are just re engineered Vauxhalls, cant be long before Subaru follow.
After all how many standard model impreza's do you see?
A car company cannot live on fast saloons alone.. ask Mitsubishi!

Skiman

Does this mean Ford RS Cars will go up in price?

Fastmaul

Phil4x4 they sell impreza estates here and SAAB estates, I think you got that wrong.
i also think you're wrong if you think Subaru is going to stop selling/making the scooby here. Import Racing and lifestyle has become So huge that it would be the worst business move for them to make! Ford could've had a piece of the action but they stepped on shit and missed the train! Let's hope that at least the Cosworth N/A focus does well here!!

Escy

that a joke?

Rich_w

Actually its Customers fuck Ford. They didnt buy enough cars

Its a commercial operation. You want to get rich, dont feel sentimental about things

As for small volume Performance cars, Audi (RS4,6) Merc (Amg anything) BMW (M's) Peugeot (GTI) VW (Gti) Subaru, Mitsi, Nissan etc You can make it work if the products wanted. Ford messed about so long the demand went elsewhere, so when FRS was finally unveiled no one cared anymore.

MadMac

Is it just me, but only BMW, Audi, Subaru, Misubishi and Mazda and a few others are keeping their motorsport bits, are still working on them, still making some seriously fast motors and now ford is dumping all that??

What are they thinking about????

Didn't the sales of the Focus RS mean anything? That there is a whole nation of us out here craving a new all balls no frills turbo performance ford?



Its turning into the granny marque. Sensable cars only

Thats it I'm going Jap, who has an Supra for sale......

soulweavers

Very sad to hear about Jaguar & Cosworth, I really hope a buyer comes along and keeps these companys running.

Dave Henshall

THATS NEWS ASWELL - DIDNT KNOW THEY WERE PULLING OUT OF WRC - WHAT WILL THEY DO?

cossie400

lol at the 200sx, since when were they ever worth anything

MWF

I can honestly say I don't give a fook!

Ford did well when it counts to me, in the 80's when my car was built. If I went out and bought a Ford now it would be because I want a decent boring car as cheap as poss.

I'm with Steve too on the marquism, it's like people who are fans of Vauxhall just because of the Lotus Carlton.

The RS parts being sold off is a shame but perhaps it at least means those parts will be in the hands of specialists who care about them and we can get frank answers about availability. And look on the bright side if there is demand people will start producing the parts, look at the remade RS500 fog grills for example, and the RS500 splitters.

In all fairness the word on the grapevine is that Cosworth have been letting Ford down on their quality control when it comes to engines. Hence why Aston Martin wont be using them any more.

RaVeR

shame about this if they did make a focus cosworth bet it would of sold just like the rs500 did

JBcos

Focus sold out and people waited a silly amount of time for one, didnt ford realise from this that demand IS there if they can deliver a car that is worthy of an RS badge. Personally if i want to buy a new car, i dont want a long wait.

Pulling out of WRC, well as ford offer no sports car or wrc type car what are they gaining by being there?

Interesting that Mitsu hasnt completed a full timetable of the WRC this year and just chose a few events, Lancer EVO still sells and appeals though.

Jap or 2 wheels is the way forward, why wait for ford as steve said run of the mill manufacturer that only caters for ya nan

Isnt the Skoda now badged as a VRS

RickDraper

[quote="JBcos"]
Interesting that Mitsu hasnt completed a full timetable of the WRC this year and just chose a few events, Lancer EVO still sells and appeals though.
[quote]

Mitsubishi have withdrawn from the WRC this season due to the company making massive losses this year and they have had a massive product recall in Japan causing them further embarasment in there home country.

Rumors the other week said Jag was going to be rebranded Ford F1 and they were going to drop there WRC team for this. Hopefully now Jag/Ford F1 is not going to happen ford will now confirm they will compete in the WRC next season. One of the reasons for them not competing was that they needed to develope the new shape focus WRC and they did not have enough funds available to do this. Also Ford WRC is funded by ford Europe, they make a profit per season but Ford Europe never sees this as it was used to fund other projects/nicked by the yanks and this pissed ford europe off. Rick

Escy

its not like ford have stopped making all your RS's which will bring the price up because of high demand - they haven't made RS Turbo's forover 10 years, if Ford ended as a company tomorrow, an RS Turbo wouldn't rise in value due to that

Ginge !

no decent rst's would, they went down in value then they went up again and now there going down again like before, insurance played a big part in that though

the rs500 never sold very well if i remember

Escy

what i'm saying tho is that if Ford decide to stop producing the RS marque it'd make no difference to the value of an RS's as they aren't making any any more anyway.

Ginge !

mmmmmmm good point that, infact could reduce what there worth as people stopp looking at fords as fast cars, bit like mg metro turbos on a uno turbo

Kev.H

wish if they werent making anymore they would just tell us so we can all mourne, sell up and go japanese

Andreas

So true, looks like Opel/Vauxhall will close down the swedish Saab factory too. I blame ze Germans. Anyway according to me Saab went downhill when they had to fit a GM-based engine which is like chocolate compared to the older Saab designed engines.

Andreas

Actully that Saab X2 or whatever its called is only sold in the USA and its Subaru with some plastics on to make it look like a Saab.

Ginge !

soooooo true

wimwerf

simon,

its nice to see the same reaction you have and i also have.

i've placed a topic the same as you do now here on a dutch site.

its really a shame what ford is doing.

wimwerf

thats strange.....when rembrand died his pianting prices went sky high.

if the rs's are allmost gone and there will be a couple left then the prices will rice sky high.

but its just what the crazy man wnats to pay for it.