Which gearbox for Escort cossie running 500BHP
01-05-2007, 05:14 PM
#47
Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Dave, not sure yet mate, he is still umm'ing and arr'ing over it
hope he sorts it all out,he has come along way with it,deserves better luck.
01-05-2007, 05:18 PM
#49
just finding my feet
as much as i love si b's car,,, he needs to break it as NOBODY can be that unlucky and not have a bad ending
he needs to move on to more reliable things like gardening,,,, though he will prob find hes plants grow up to be trifids
how can ANYONE be that unlucky,,,,, even jonah never had a hard time as him
he needs to move on to more reliable things like gardening,,,, though he will prob find hes plants grow up to be trifids
how can ANYONE be that unlucky,,,,, even jonah never had a hard time as him
01-05-2007, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
anyone selling a fix-it or mullet box.
01-05-2007, 05:35 PM
#53
just finding my feet
dave seriously i think he should have jonah in his car for GOOD luck,,,, couldnt get any worse
hearing the stories about him over time,,,, that much bad luck aint possible,,, every now and again even i get a few breaks,,,, hes "good luck" is getting home without the need of a towrope
he hit a deer on the nurburgring,,,, theres not even a way they can access the ring from ANYWHERE,,,, but he managed to hit the ONLY DEER to have got on the ring,,,, i bet if he put a bet on every horse in the national they would call the race a false start,,, hang about that DID happen,,,,,,
wonder if he had a bet on that day
hearing the stories about him over time,,,, that much bad luck aint possible,,, every now and again even i get a few breaks,,,, hes "good luck" is getting home without the need of a towrope
he hit a deer on the nurburgring,,,, theres not even a way they can access the ring from ANYWHERE,,,, but he managed to hit the ONLY DEER to have got on the ring,,,, i bet if he put a bet on every horse in the national they would call the race a false start,,, hang about that DID happen,,,,,,
wonder if he had a bet on that day
01-05-2007, 05:38 PM
#55
just finding my feet
wonder if hes ever had a final desination moment and hes trying to cheat death
either that or hes had a entire black cat sactuary walk infront of him whilst he walked under a bridge made of 90 ladders whilst breaking mirrors for fun
he should write a book about his bad luck,,,, well he could try but im sure the computer would crash near him finishing it
either that or hes had a entire black cat sactuary walk infront of him whilst he walked under a bridge made of 90 ladders whilst breaking mirrors for fun
he should write a book about his bad luck,,,, well he could try but im sure the computer would crash near him finishing it
01-05-2007, 07:56 PM
#56
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Dave, not sure yet mate, he is still umm'ing and arr'ing over it
hope he sorts it all out,he has come along way with it,deserves better luck.
The only thing that will stop me is if I come into money (sure, that's going to happen!) and I can afford to fix it.
The head had Ł1500 poured into it, the valve seat or valve stem failure is bound to be my shit out bad luck!
Si
01-05-2007, 08:03 PM
#57
Also, the Mullet gear box can be had for LESS than Ł3k.
I know how much mine cost after all.
I've got all the prices for all the options written down somewhere at home - if you want them PM me and I'll dig them out.
Incidentally for all the moaners - apart from my own PERSONAL gearboxes which will be up for sale shortly, I personally AM NOT selling any gearboxes. Gearbox Man (IIRC he still uses this place?) Mike R and Martin Hadland are the only PF Traders I know of that can help you.
Si
I know how much mine cost after all.
I've got all the prices for all the options written down somewhere at home - if you want them PM me and I'll dig them out.
Incidentally for all the moaners - apart from my own PERSONAL gearboxes which will be up for sale shortly, I personally AM NOT selling any gearboxes. Gearbox Man (IIRC he still uses this place?) Mike R and Martin Hadland are the only PF Traders I know of that can help you.
Si
01-05-2007, 08:06 PM
#58
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Originally Posted by SiB
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Dave, not sure yet mate, he is still umm'ing and arr'ing over it
hope he sorts it all out,he has come along way with it,deserves better luck.
The only thing that will stop me is if I come into money (sure, that's going to happen!) and I can afford to fix it.
The head had Ł1500 poured into it, the valve seat or valve stem failure is bound to be my shit out bad luck!
Si
you will be back with something more reliable im sure
ever thought about a tank
01-05-2007, 08:15 PM
#61
Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
Kelv
thanks Kelv.
why has Mike not said anything.
thanks Kelv.
why has Mike not said anything.
.Si,
To be fair, I believe that you got a very good deal being one of the first to have a kit
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01-05-2007, 08:17 PM
#62
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i thought marco wanted the kit to be 3k built when he started it as a idea ?
or has things changed now hes got a product people want and so hes gonna change his pricing to what people will pay for it ?
or has things changed now hes got a product people want and so hes gonna change his pricing to what people will pay for it ?
01-05-2007, 08:33 PM
#63
Originally Posted by Rick
What about if you don't want the straight cut noise, ie a road car?
Is it skyline box time?
Is it skyline box time?
The Mullet box (and I would imagine the Fixit too) has to be straight cut for the strength. The downside is the noise (though I never had a problem with mine- I liked the noise.)
I know there are plans at Mullet HQ for a more road biased box with helically cut gears, but it simply will not be as strong. Should still be a good option for the 350-450bhp people.
Mike - deffo know a Mullet box can be bought for under Ł3k by Joe Public tomorrow.
My own box was even less than that, as I was one (the?) test dummy for it.
Ginge - thought marco wanted the kit to be 3k built when he started it as a idea ? Spot on matey, that's still his aim.
Si
01-05-2007, 08:41 PM
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i was just wondering what box to get for mine until i read this, the mullet box sounds good to me but whats the price of one all done ready to go in with the uprated first gear and shaft, and what diffs should i get
cheers
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01-05-2007, 09:13 PM
#67
hi lads
porkie (lee) has got one in his 3dr and has done 6/7 track days and alot of lauching at the pod he hasn't had any problems at all so far
he been running about 550bhp all though his engine is good for 600+bhp
the gears are well strong made from proper material
his box contains big tooth 2nd/3rd/4th/5th he has standard 1st gear/ standard mainshaft and center VC
there are options for uprated 1st gear standard in pattern only but made with the same material as the big tooth gears
theres also options for uprated mainshaft
options for uprated center VC
options for lower 5th big tooth gear 5% lower ratio (less revs more top end est 0.75
options for 3.9 /4.1/4.4/5.1 step off gears and uprated chain
brand new (ricardo)ford 9" diffs either VC or Ex-trac plated type with cwps from 3.6/3.9/4.1/4.4/5.2 ect all brand new cwp
brand new 7" cwp 3.6/3.9/4.1/4.4
brand new 7.5" cwp 3.6/3.9/4.1/4.4
cheers marco
porkie (lee) has got one in his 3dr and has done 6/7 track days and alot of lauching at the pod he hasn't had any problems at all so far
he been running about 550bhp all though his engine is good for 600+bhp
the gears are well strong made from proper material
his box contains big tooth 2nd/3rd/4th/5th he has standard 1st gear/ standard mainshaft and center VC
there are options for uprated 1st gear standard in pattern only but made with the same material as the big tooth gears
theres also options for uprated mainshaft
options for uprated center VC
options for lower 5th big tooth gear 5% lower ratio (less revs more top end est 0.75
options for 3.9 /4.1/4.4/5.1 step off gears and uprated chain
brand new (ricardo)ford 9" diffs either VC or Ex-trac plated type with cwps from 3.6/3.9/4.1/4.4/5.2 ect all brand new cwp
brand new 7" cwp 3.6/3.9/4.1/4.4
brand new 7.5" cwp 3.6/3.9/4.1/4.4
cheers marco
01-05-2007, 09:58 PM
#69
Marco, this isnt a pisstake question, so please dont take it that way as I know it may seem like it.
But is the entry level mullet box any better at fully bore launches than a standard box?
Its just I notice you saying "porkie's car has launched hard on one" but he is on standard first gear and standard shaft, so how is that a reflection on the mullet box, or is the support from the bearings etc better in order to better support the standard shaft?
But is the entry level mullet box any better at fully bore launches than a standard box?
Its just I notice you saying "porkie's car has launched hard on one" but he is on standard first gear and standard shaft, so how is that a reflection on the mullet box, or is the support from the bearings etc better in order to better support the standard shaft?
02-05-2007, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by NIL 7717
out of curiosity marco,why was it named after a bad german haircut?
More options than i was fully aware of.
im thinking good bye 3.9 and hello 4.1
02-05-2007, 07:48 AM
#74
Originally Posted by SiB
Also, the Mullet gear box can be had for LESS than Ł3k.
I know how much mine cost after all.
Incidentally for all the moaners - apart from my own PERSONAL gearboxes which will be up for sale shortly, I personally AM NOT selling any gearboxes. Gearbox Man (IIRC he still uses this place?) Mike R and Martin Hadland are the only PF Traders I know of that can help you.
Si
I know how much mine cost after all.
Incidentally for all the moaners - apart from my own PERSONAL gearboxes which will be up for sale shortly, I personally AM NOT selling any gearboxes. Gearbox Man (IIRC he still uses this place?) Mike R and Martin Hadland are the only PF Traders I know of that can help you.
Si
02-05-2007, 08:14 AM
#75
The Fixit kit is SEMI-straight cut, so isn't quite as noisy as the Mullet one.
Both have the same weakness in using the OE first gear and main-shaft in the base kit.
Both can be upgraded to the bullet proof kit by fitting the Mullet upgraded first gear and main-shaft, but this adds just over Ł1500 to the price of each
. However, at least you can then launch with impunity (well, for as long as the standard 4x4 drive shaft joints last ).
Both have the same weakness in using the OE first gear and main-shaft in the base kit.
Both can be upgraded to the bullet proof kit by fitting the Mullet upgraded first gear and main-shaft, but this adds just over Ł1500 to the price of each
. However, at least you can then launch with impunity (well, for as long as the standard 4x4 drive shaft joints last ).
02-05-2007, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SiB
The only thing that will stop me is if I come into money (sure, that's going to happen!) and I can afford to fix it.
02-05-2007, 09:13 AM
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Didn't say track car either... and if it WAS just a track car then it would have said surely?
I have driven Bruces and Martins old cars on the road with R&D boxes... very very NASTY.
and they were overdriven boxes! that one has 1:1 6th gear!
Rally car box.. or short sprint track gearbox... would be hitting limiter on any long straight on track!
I have driven Bruces and Martins old cars on the road with R&D boxes... very very NASTY.
and they were overdriven boxes! that one has 1:1 6th gear!
Rally car box.. or short sprint track gearbox... would be hitting limiter on any long straight on track!
02-05-2007, 03:07 PM
#80
Originally Posted by Porkie
Didn't say track car either... and if it WAS just a track car then it would have said surely?
I have driven Bruces and Martins old cars on the road with R&D boxes... very very NASTY.
and they were overdriven boxes! that one has 1:1 6th gear!
Rally car box.. or short sprint track gearbox... would be hitting limiter on any long straight on track!
I have driven Bruces and Martins old cars on the road with R&D boxes... very very NASTY.
and they were overdriven boxes! that one has 1:1 6th gear!
Rally car box.. or short sprint track gearbox... would be hitting limiter on any long straight on track!
).But you're correct, the R&D is not particularly good, but not for that reason, but the same reason as for the Quaife "big-tooth" - it canny take the power Jim
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