Toymota

Just found this on the AutoTrader for £25000!

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Is there something I dont know about this car? Why is it so expensive?

Here is the description on Autotrader,

3 Doors, Manual 5 speed, Hatchback, Petrol, 54,000 km, Metallic pearlescent white metallicrenault, 2 Owners. renault 5 turbo 2 1984 manufactured imported to uk in 1985 54000 kms one lady owner since 1987 finished in pearlescent white full portfolio all bills to show gotti alloys dry stored for the last 6 years just had major refurbishment with over 10000 pounds spent.these cars are now seriously collectable and classic investments ! rtoc members will appreciate that these cars are not for the faint hearted and most definately are not to be confused with renault 5 gt turbos! £24,995

saff_cossie

I know Warley put a lot of work in but had no idea it was that much!

Mike1

At a guess it's a mid-engined Renault 5 Turbo 2 ....NOT a R5 GT turbo.

These were rwd cars

GARETH T

the engines in the back

Toymota

i dont think i could justify spending that much money on a renault 5. would rather have an escos!

CabrioTurbo

id rather have an EVO for that money even if the R5 (raider probably? ) was mint!

Rolls

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Awesome cars!

GARETH T

theses are propper cars,,, nothing like a renault 5,
these are true groub B homologated cars

Toymota

i would end up paying £25000 for it and it would never come out of the garage

TrevCannon

Holyshit shit! good enough just to find one forsale!!!

Toymota

here is the link to the website of the company selling it

http://www.wayfordcarcentre.co.uk/Ge...=3157&pageid=1

PastyKing

thats been for sale for AGES now
i remember seeing it and showing it to rad

whosyadaddy

They have 2 of them forsale if u follow the link

89xr2

That's just up the road from me. Trust me, when you look at it you'll know it IS worth every penny of 25K.

Ian M500COS

You would be shocked if you knew how well these cars handled!!

I got taken out in one many years ago - went to look at one with the intention of buying it - the guy selling it owned a garage in Dorset. Happened to be an ex rally driver, can't remember his name. But bloody hell, could he drive. If the car hadnt been a bit tatty, I would have had it!!

Don't ever compare these to a normal Renault 5 GT Turbo!!

Toymota

i think it will take a while to sell something like that. for what it is, i agree, its worth every penny but there arent many people out there with £25000 to blow on a car that should be a mantle piece decoration! lol

Greg Shepherd

what a car not the normal r5 turbo

proper group b car

philram

iTrader: (3)

its like comparing a 6r4 to an mg metro..

Gary F

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Daviet

proper car
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Paul J

This is owned by a garage owner in Devon, he organises a few airfield days, the car is awesome.

Hooligan

I've had one!

painted up in the colours of Jean Ragnotti....looked good but dear oh dear...you don't want to crash it....

You're sat on a HUGE fueltank....virtually all the pannels are fibre and flimsy at best....

Good bits: 180 BHP midengined, tubularv manifold with the turbo sat right behind the seats

Rab

http://pictures.autotrader.co.uk/ATD...a?id=522936691


White. Nice!

Not a hope in hell of me spending 25k on one

Stavros

Its a fookin mega rare and awesome GrpB rallycar, not a GT Turbo

God help you when you find a 205 T16 Evo2 for about 50k and start a "I thought Pug 205s were worth about a grand a best, whys this one 50k, all its got is a Dimma Bodykit" thread.

Birds eh, fantastic

AndyBrew

I saw one of these at a car meet recently, the lad was selling it was in very good condition and he wanted 20k for it, I think there are only about 40 or so left in the country.

BRIGSPORT

iTrader: (2)

It's renaults version of the rs200. As the ad states;do not confuse with normal r5 gt turbo.

big_wig_074

unfortunately,youre all wrong,this is NOT a group b car.

marco polo

iTrader: (1)

exactly that !!!! same as the audi sport quattro/ pug T16 ect all road versions of the grp b rally cars

big_wig_074

once again,wrong!!!
what year was the renault made?
what year did group b start?
you cant homologate a car for a type of racing and race it before the group is started.
it was built to group 4 regs.

tracktoy

sweet car

but thats a lot of power from a little engine

marco polo

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big wig

is this the car http://pictures.autotrader.co.uk/ATD...a?id=522936691 ?

if so that is the road version of the grp b rwd/ rear engine (mid)

grp b started roughly 1983/ 1984

marco

Jim Galbally

bigwig's right, it's a Group4 car

it was a 1980 car! the 2nd generation was in 1984, and im pretty sure that was grp4 too

marco polo

iTrader: (1)

hi jim

that is the car they used as the grp b

marco polo

iTrader: (1)

hi micheal

even if they were classed as grp 4 they were still raced in the grp b class thats why they are classed as grp b

Tonks

its a sensible investment if its a turbo 2

-Jo-

Merk/modellen Gr B official

Audi - Quattro, Sport Quattro, Quattro S1 (S1 Pike's Peak)
Lancia - Rally 037, Delta S4
Peugeot - 205 Turbo 16, 205 Turbo 16 E2 (E2 Dakar, Pike's Peak), 405 Turbo 16 (Dakar)
Ford - RS1700 (plan afgebroken), RS200
Toyota - TCT, MR2 (plan afgebroken)
Renault - 5 Turbo, 5 Maxi Turbo
Opel - Ascona 400, Manta 400, Kadett 400 (plan afgebroken)
Rover - Metro 6R4
Nissan - 240 RS
Mazda - RX-7
Porsche - 911 SC, 911 SC RS, 959 (Dakar)
Citroën - BX 4TC
BMW - M1 Turbo
Ferrari - 288 GTO (plan afgebroken)
Mitsubishi - Starion 4wd (plan afgebroken, pas WRC debuut gemaakt in Groep A).

[bewerk] Rijders/drivers
Hannu Mikkola
Markku Alén
Henri Toivonen
Walter Röhrl
Ari Vatanen
Stig Blomqvist
Michele Mouton
Timo Salonen
Juha Kankkunen
Jean Ragnotti
Miki Biasion
Bruno Saby
Tony Pond
Attilio Bettega
Jean-Claude Andruet
Kalle Grundel
Malcolm Wilson
Mikael Ericsson
Björn Waldegård
Per Eklund
Guy Frequelin

[bewerk] WK-titels
1983 - Hannu Mikkola
1984 - Stig Blomqvist
1985 - Timo Salonen
1986 - Juha Kankkunen
1983 - Lancia
1984 - Audi
1985 - Peugeot
1986 - Peugeot


Renault 5 Turbo
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Renault 5 Turbo
Manufacturer: Renault
Production: 1980–1984
Body Styles: MR coupé
Engines: 1397cc Cléon turbo
The Renault 5 Turbo or R5 Turbo was a high-performance coupé automobile produced by the French manufacturer Renault in the early 1980s. The car was designed for rallying, but was also sold in road-going guise.

Although the standard Renault 5 has a front-mounted engine, the 5 Turbo featured a mid-mounted 1397cc Cléon turbocharged engine placed behind the driver in mid-body in a modified Renault 5 chassis. In standard form, the engine developed 160 hp (118 kW). Though it used a modified body from a standard Renault 5, and was badged a Renault 5, the mechanicals were radically different.

The first batch of 400 5 Turbos was produced to comply with Group 4 homologation. A second version, Turbo 2, was introduced using stock Renault 5 parts in replacement of many light alloy parts of the original 5 Turbo. The original 5 Turbo was in retrospect called "Turbo 1". The Turbo 2 was much cheaper but had nearly the same levels of performance.
All the racing derivatives were based on the Turbo 1. The factory pushed the engine output up to 180 hp (132 kW) for the Cévennes, 210 hp (154 kW) for the Tour de Corse, and possibly as much as 350 hp (257 kW) in the Maxi 5 Turbo. These kits featured stronger engine internals and more efficient intercoolers.

Driven by Jean Ragnotti the R5 Turbo won the Monte Carlo Rally on its first outing in the World Rally Championship. The 2WD R5 turbo soon faced the competition of new 4WD cars that proved faster on dirt. However, it remained among the fastest of its era on tarmac where it was highly successful.

In 2004, Sports Car International named the R5 Turbo number nine on the list of Top Sports Cars of the 1980s.


Renault 5 Turbo, l'école du Groupe B
Article publié le SAMEDI 25 OCTOBRE 2003, par Jean-Jacques



La Renault 5 Turbo est née d'une discussion. Dans une R16 qui ramène à Paris Jean Terramorsi, sous-directeur à la direction du produit chargé des petites séries, et Henry Lherm son adjoint. On est alors en 1976 et la Régie Renault souhaite renforcer son image à travers la compétition. L'A310 V6 et la berlinette ont vécu, la R5 Alpine n'en est qu'à pousser ses premiers cris et ne paraît pas en mesure de rivaliser avec les meilleurs sur le terrain du rallye. La Formule 1 et l'endurance sont au même moment la préoccupation majeure de la firme au losange qui souhaite faire étalage de son savoir-faire et promouvoir sa technologie du moteur turbocompressé. Pourquoi ne pas envisager, donc, une Renault 5 survitaminée, dopée au turbo et capable de se comporter avec panache dans le championnat du monde des rallyes ? A peine arrivés, les deux hommes se mettent au travail, rédigent un cahier des charges propre à convaincre leur hiérarchie, définissent déjà quelques axes de réflexion (il semble bien que ce soit à ce moment-là que soit née l'idée d'abandonner la traction avant de la R5 pour lui préférer la propulsion avec implantation du moteur en position centrale AR),... Terramorsi, tragiquement disparu le 26 août 1976, ne verra pas l'aboutissement du projet 822. Henry Lherm, qui lui succède, oui, qui coordinera les études d'abord secrètes puis avalisées par Renault. Et qui aboutiront à réaliser strictement l'inverse de ce que font d'habitude les constructeurs lorsqu'il s'agit de faire de la compétition. Car, pour une fois, c'est bien le modèle de compétition qui sera civilisé pour être produit en petite série pour le public. C'est l'un des nombreux paradoxes qui transparaissent entre les lignes de cet ouvrage écrit avec passion par Dominique Pascal qui, 25 ans après avoir rédigé le premier ouvrage consacré à la Renault 5 Turbo (paru alors chez EPA) retrouve cet amour de jeunesse qui, sous sa plume, n'a pas pris une ride. Le tout agrémenté de nombreuses photos et d'une grande partie entièrement consacrée au palmarès de cette auto, qui a tout de même remporté le Monte Carlo en 1980 (Ragnotti-Andrié) et 1985 (Ragnotti-Thimonier), le Tour de Corse 1982 (toujours Ragnotti-Andrié), le Rallye du Portugal 1986 (Moutinho-Fortes), gagné le championnant de France des rallyes en 1984 (Ragnotti-Thimonier)... Indispensable pour tous les amoureux de cette bombe.
Renault 5 Turbo, l'école du Groupe B, Dominique Pascal, ed. ETAI, 2003, 128 p.
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