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Old 22-04-2007, 01:03 AM
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Default SiB, what happened to yer car today mate at Coombe?

Heard something happened to it, seen you chasing Martin around in the reyland escort on a mid-day session and then as you went into Quarry it sounded like it was badly mis-firing or something?!
Old 22-04-2007, 01:11 AM
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don't think si himself will know till he gets the head off tommorrow
Old 22-04-2007, 01:25 AM
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Ooooooh that bad is it
Old 22-04-2007, 01:33 AM
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I don't know either yet mate. my xray vision was playing up today
Old 22-04-2007, 10:21 AM
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I think I *may* have melted something

Will take some piccies later once the engine is apart (should have put it in with wing nuts and zip ties, it comes in and out that much!)

Bummer
Old 22-04-2007, 10:23 AM
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bad luck si
Old 22-04-2007, 10:56 AM
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si. let me know if phils about or not later. if you need a hand i'll pop over.
Old 22-04-2007, 11:06 AM
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Jesus fuck man! If you didnt have bad luck you'd have no luck at all!!!

Who maps your car out of interest?
Old 22-04-2007, 11:13 AM
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Steve,

To answer for him, the car has been mapped by Karl on the previous engine spec (T38) and then recently by Stu on the T4 spec

I shall pop round and see Si this afternoon and see what the score is Heres hoping its not toooo serious!
Old 22-04-2007, 11:36 AM
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As per my brother above.

I'm sure it's nowt with the mapping - AFRs have always been spot on boost with both Karl's and Stu's maps.

My car was rolling roaded last weekend at 467 bhp, and apart from the torque being a little low, the operator commented at how well the car went and revved. AFRs were also 11.1 to 11.3s on the rollers.

Being me, I expect it died because I was killing the engine racing behind Martin - I managed 1 lap near/ with him before it died.

With the helmet on, red mist on following Mr Hadland I saw and heard nothing overly untoward as I caned around. Just thought boost was dropping oddly, then rounded Quarry, nailed it and no power and death rattle plus missfire.

Deffo buggered something!

I'm in the garage now tidying it up ready for the strip down and cry

Si
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Seems unlikely its a mapping issue as its done 6000 miles, many of which were hard, including a trip to the ring, since it was mapped.

More likely oil in somewhere and lowering the octane rating and bringing it to the point of det or something like that.

I actually think Si B should start runing with a knock light possibly TBH
Old 22-04-2007, 12:08 PM
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Aw man.. not again mate.

Genuinely sad for you Simon, if i can help please call.
Old 22-04-2007, 12:20 PM
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Gutted for you mate.

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Old 22-04-2007, 12:32 PM
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fookin cossies at there best


hope it aint to costly for ya
Old 22-04-2007, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SiB
As per my brother above.

I'm sure it's nowt with the mapping - AFRs have always been spot on boost with both Karl's and Stu's maps.

My car was rolling roaded last weekend at 467 bhp, and apart from the torque being a little low, the operator commented at how well the car went and revved. AFRs were also 11.1 to 11.3s on the rollers.

Being me, I expect it died because I was killing the engine racing behind Martin - I managed 1 lap near/ with him before it died.

With the helmet on, red mist on following Mr Hadland I saw and heard nothing overly untoward as I caned around. Just thought boost was dropping oddly, then rounded Quarry, nailed it and no power and death rattle plus missfire.

Deffo buggered something!

I'm in the garage now tidying it up ready for the strip down and cry

Si
We were watching you chase Martin and you were doing damm good Shame something has gone wrong, hopefully it wont be toooo bad mate and it'll be back on the road again soon
Old 22-04-2007, 02:36 PM
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Thats total shit luck Si

I suppose you cant point the finger at anything letting go until the head is off eh?
Old 22-04-2007, 02:47 PM
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Old 22-04-2007, 04:47 PM
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Ouch,just before the summer as well,gutted for you Si
Old 22-04-2007, 05:44 PM
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Not good
Old 22-04-2007, 05:56 PM
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I reckon you should blame Martin for being infront of you
Plus a great opportunity to hop on the 'Hate Reyland' bandwagon


More seriously, Wounded for ya fella
Old 22-04-2007, 05:59 PM
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Hope all is not going to be too bad Si.

its just one thing after another with your car lately.
Old 22-04-2007, 06:00 PM
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im gutted for you mate,,,
Old 22-04-2007, 06:06 PM
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Old 22-04-2007, 06:22 PM
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what absolute shit luck you have with that cossie of yours
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Old 22-04-2007, 07:04 PM
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so I guess phils back int he garage for a month or so :P
Old 22-04-2007, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SiB
Being me, I expect it died because I was killing the engine racing behind Martin - I managed 1 lap near/ with him before it died.
Why? Is the engine not built to take that kind of abuse bearing in mind that's where you use it?

Not digging - just curious, as you seem to have no luck!
Old 22-04-2007, 07:16 PM
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Si like i said to you when we pushed it into the parking space,
it was 'fukkin goin round there!

real shame its happened again
Old 22-04-2007, 07:58 PM
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no way- gutted for you mate
Old 22-04-2007, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Originally Posted by SiB
Being me, I expect it died because I was killing the engine racing behind Martin - I managed 1 lap near/ with him before it died.
Why? Is the engine not built to take that kind of abuse bearing in mind that's where you use it?

Not digging - just curious, as you seem to have no luck!
Fair point Rich - some of the bits on it, and the money poured into it were to make it as reliable as my budget would allow.

So for it to break is gutting, and not what I thought would happen (although given my track record, I did kind of expect failure of something at some point)

I think honestly, in my hunt for silly power (ie my 500 bhp target) I totally forgot to spend on everything around it. I was on a standard rad still, after 5 years of track driving in the Cossie, with high water temps even at Bedford in Feb, perhaps maybe I should have done some work on stuff other than the engine

Who know

For me, I can't afford to put it right, unless it's minor. The state of the spark plug in no 1 suggests it's not good news though.

I couldn't bring myself to pulling it apart today, so spent 4 hours tidying the garage today, in preperation for the big strip down of everything on the car. Within a week or so my car will be back to component form... never to be buggered by me again
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Gutted mate
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Originally Posted by SiB
Originally Posted by RichardPON
Originally Posted by SiB
Being me, I expect it died because I was killing the engine racing behind Martin - I managed 1 lap near/ with him before it died.
Why? Is the engine not built to take that kind of abuse bearing in mind that's where you use it?

Not digging - just curious, as you seem to have no luck!
Fair point Rich - some of the bits on it, and the money poured into it were to make it as reliable as my budget would allow.

So for it to break is gutting, and not what I thought would happen (although given my track record, I did kind of expect failure of something at some point)

I think honestly, in my hunt for silly power (ie my 500 bhp target) I totally forgot to spend on everything around it. I was on a standard rad still, after 5 years of track driving in the Cossie, with high water temps even at Bedford in Feb, perhaps maybe I should have done some work on stuff other than the engine

Who know

For me, I can't afford to put it right, unless it's minor. The state of the spark plug in no 1 suggests it's not good news though.

I couldn't bring myself to pulling it apart today, so spent 4 hours tidying the garage today, in preperation for the big strip down of everything on the car. Within a week or so my car will be back to component form... never to be buggered by me again
re- the water temps, i'm sure i read somewhere that mike r does not run water to the turbo for cooling and i'm tempted to do the same - this would reduce the temps of the water and the std rad should cope no problem- its a cheap mod that could have a big effect
Old 23-04-2007, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by phill2400
Someone is going to be busy eh Phil

Sorry to hear that Si
Old 23-04-2007, 07:40 AM
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The car running a big wing sump as well?
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
The car running a big wing sump as well?
I was just about to ask that....
Old 23-04-2007, 08:03 AM
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Si's car doesnt run water cooling on his T4... and yes it runs a big wing sump! (well it was last time I looked )
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Originally Posted by SiB
I think I *may* have melted something

Will take some piccies later once the engine is apart (should have put it in with wing nuts and zip ties, it comes in and out that much!)

Bummer
unlucky dude
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Shit luck fella

Hope it is not as bad as it sounds
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Oh no gutting to hear this hun


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