whats involved with this conversion if its even possible 2 do that is

 

pm Stu H

He has em fitted to his S2

 

oh right cheers,anybody got any pics atall

 

http://www.mwstewart.co.uk/cars/mk3frs/


thought it was a full feature but just seems to be pics

 

ok cheers 4 that r they the focus rs discs do u know or st170 brakes

 

well it says that is a frs set up... I would plop for the st170 set up, they're still 300mm!!

 

Why would you want to? They are stupidly expensive to replace and are no better than my std Saff in my experience.

 

i thought the rs brakes were bigger

 

They are, but cost ŁŁŁŁŁŁ's and I find my saff just as good TBH.

 

mine are very good on me focus how can some standard saff ones be as good, i pursume there under 300mm? Not too expensive if you go for aftermarket parts.

 

FRS brakes on a RST would massivly over brake the car! unless you intend on doing high speed runs and braking from 150mph they just aint needed IMO.

I had std sized discs on my RST (280mm) and it out braked a few things on track You can make the std items work as well and sometimes better than larger ones if you get the right set-up.

I had tarox grooved and drilled discs, ferodo ds2500 pads, abs removed, braided hoses and dot 5.1 fluid and kept the rear drums very very well adjusted and they were awesome on track!

 

I've got Pagid grooved discs and 1144 pads on the front of the Saff and actually find them BETTER than the FRS on both road and track, yes the Saff's are "modified" if you like, but retain the original calipers.

I just expected the FRS Brembo's to be far better, they're not.

 

Are you still on std pads in the FRS?

Have you had the brakes apart on the FRS? mine are std and the orginal discs and pads from the car was new, I took mine apart last week and removed the lips off the discs, filed the pads flat again and refitted it all and they were 25% better then before and much more like i expect brakes of that size to feel.

 

Standard size discs on a S2 are not 280mm

 

what are they then ?

Well they were std size what ever that is

 

have focus rs 324mm disks on my dax rush using std s2 calipers. In fact the std brakes on the rush are xr4x4 which are same calipers and hubs as rs turbo.

you space the 324mm disks with 1mm spacer between the disk and hub to ensure clearance between disk and track rod end as the focus disk sits further in. you then space the caliper out by using a plate about 10mm thick and the hole centres 32mm apart this moves the caliper carrier out by 32mm. you then mount the caliper carriers onto the plate with 11mm spacers. you will also need to grind the carrier caliper a little to allow the greater dimater disk to rotate without contact and a small amount of grinding on the caliper body itself.

the whole thing is prob not as good as using focus calipers but it fits under a 16" wheel which focus calipers will not and the brakes are a major improvement over standard 260mm

 

s2 disks are 260mm

 

do u hav any pics atall please mate

ive got 4x4 cossie brakes all round already on my erst so there already quite good but was just thinking about uprating the front brakes a bit more,ive got 17s on the car so wud focus rs discs and calipers fit bhind them

also are fiat coupe or peugeot 406 coupe front calipers the same as the focus rs calipers

 

rs focus brakes on to a s1 depending on wheel fitmnent it will cost a set of brakes and some brackets which i sell
you can get calipers for less than Ł200 and new discs for around Ł250 makin a 330 4 pot kit at around Ł550 that a cheap kit

 

wud the brackets fit a s2 aswell

 

there is about 5mm clearance between 16" wheels and the standard calipers as detailed above. alloy calipers need more disk/wheel clearance but i reckon that focus calipers would alos fit under 17's

 

Why not use 300mm ST170/Mondeo Mk3 brakes?

Bit of work and they'll fit under 15s.

 

ive got 17s so can go 4 bigger brakes anyway so am probably going 2 look into the rs option and should look quite good aswell

 

Ive got an ST170 set up on mine, not FRS

 

ya brackets will fit s2

 

ok cheers 4 that much apppreciated