Just had a quote to fully smooth-render our 3-Bed Detached Bungalow/Garage, down the the DPC.

Anyone Builders/Renderers on here who fancy a guess at how long it should take to complete a job like that in man/days?

 

house round the corner from us got rendered a few weeks back took em about 3 days iirc

 

get the local gypos on it, half the price i bet

 

And half of it will stay on

 

Out of interest- Are you not happy with the quote???

 

Yes, that's right. Being a realist, I find it hard to believe how long it takes.

This wasn't a random guy out of the phone-book either.

 

Have you worked out the square meterage yourself and then rang a few contractors to ask them?

Might tell you how realistic the price was- also I am sure the quality or workmanship would be important to you???

 

about 3-4 days,but i,d price for a week to cover any weather issues
also price wise about £25 sqm



but i hate rendering and overprice so i can stay inside skimming

 

I am waiting for a breakdown of costs from him, but I can tell you that he wants......

30 (Yes, THIRTY) MAN/DAYS. That's 3 men for 10 days!! Just under £5k in labour.

I'm fairly unshockable with what tradesmen charge, but that shocked me.

 

i'm getting the garage rendered, cannot remember the size.

£220,with me getting the sand,cement and stop beads, ( tonne of sand,4 bags cement, £30 stop beads)

2 days work in it too.

 

Is that to hack off all old material and key brickwork for new?
How many windows and doors are there to fit Stainless beading around?

I know it's a bungalow but are any parts in need of scaffold to reach them?
Is the surrounding ground flat and clear enough to give easy access?

It does sound a bit enthusiastic with the hours quote, is there a discount if they can actually work EVERY day without being rained or frozen off?


.

 

there pullin ur pisser m8 been in the game for 15 years and without seeing it its hard to say regarding beads etc corners but two spreads and a labourer should scratchcoat it in 1 or 2 days with freestanding scaff not putlocks (sp). the topcoat does obviously take longer but not that long 1 week at a guess hard to say tho.but yes there takin the piss fook em off.get a few more quotes hth

 

It's 1930's Red Brick, in not-great condition. They want to wire-mesh the whole bungalow, bell-beads etc.

We have waited until now, so that we can cherry pick the best time of year. In other words, they can say when THEY want to do it.

We spoke to this guy a year or so ago when he did some plastering for us (he has done most of the inside of our bungalow, for reasonable prices), he hinted at around £2.5k off the top of his head, so you can imagine our surprise when he comes back with £6500!!

 

Whats the square meterage???

Also if they're wire meshing the whole building maybe they're gonna do a good job.

Why do you want it rendered?

As a rough idea...

Lets say your house is square
Its 10m each side
2m high to eaves
Hipped alround so no gable ends
Thats 80m2 not including deductions for openings.

Makes it £81.25 per m2 which aint anywhere near Baskys £25 m2.

So how bigs the bungalow?

Jake

 

They are wire-meshing the whole bungalow as it really needs it. There are some cracks in the brickwork etc. As it's smooth render we wanted it to have the best chance of being OK.

I have had this discussion before in terms of why we want it done and there really is nothing else for it. There are too many issue's all round to make repairing the brickwork viable.

I am told it is 150sq metres. Is this likely?

 

yes and im sure the meshing is not £61,25 per sqm
ok you,ve got labour time to fit the mesh but shit on a stick

 

They anticipated 2 days to fit the mesh. Let's put this in perspective, we aren't talking 2 men and a 'boy', we are talking 3 full-charging professionals at £160 per day each. So that's 6 man/days to wire mesh the bungalow. Then a further 8 days to do the rest. Surely the 2 days for meshing will include fitting the beads etc, so that's 8 clear days of rendering. I would want them to be popping in and wiping my arse for that too.

 

These pics are quite old, particularly the first one, just after we bought it, but you get the idea!!

 

Have you looked at having external insulation under the render?
It might reduce the horrendous gas bills you were complaining of.

.

 

Your getting ripped off mate.Get another firm in

 

I saw this being done the other day and wondered. I presume that's where they screw insulation slabs on, then skim over the top? That would be a reasonable idea I would have thought.

Any other thoughts on this?

 

Dont go there, its a whole other 'topic'

 

http://www.nationalinsulationassocia...olid-wall.html

.

 

Im sure we used these on our house

http://www.spraycote.co.uk/products.asp

Ill try to find some pics out, but the front of the house which was 19 ft across by around maybe 10 ft high, cost me £1500. That was about 2.5 years ago.

If you crack it, or chip it, they come out and repair it for free, I think the guarantee was 10 years or something, and the stuff they used i belive was called ecotech or ecotex. Really cant remember now

 

Christian.

Lets get some measurements.

Get a height to eaves and get a length across the back of the building and down 1 side.
I'll work out the square meterage rough;y from those measurements before deductions.

You've got 2 gable ends.

Some tricky little windows.

2 bay windows

Gonna need scaffold to do the gable on the front of the house due to the porch/little roof thing.

Is the garage included in the price???

Jake

 

I'm just also thinking........

Is wire meshing completely normal for all rendering jobs????

Maybe thats got somet to do with the cost???

Jake

 

150 sq m Is it fook mate get em told to bollox

3 men 1 week to mesh and render. Thats two good plasterers and a monkey.

To mesh, fit bell cast and beads, and render id guess at around £3500 tops...

 

Have you paid your trader fee Lee?????

 

he used to have a link
but thats another story eh lee

 

I know pmsl

 

I'm guessing that we have been quoted for worst-case scenario all round. As in, if they have to rawlplug and screw ALL the mesh, but I guess they will be trying to nail it etc. However, I bet we don't get a reduction if they do it quicker, they will just knock off a little earlier.

I can't measure at the moment, but thinking of it logically, the 2 rooms at the front (as in, the ones with the bays) are just over 3 metres wide each, so that must make the front and rear 8 metres long, roughly.

The side that can be seen from the front view, with the 3 windows has the bathroom (4 metres long), Rosie's room, (2.5 metres) long and our bedroom (3 metres long). So, that must make the sides around 9.5-10 metres long.

The garage has a door on the front and rear at the moment. So those walls can hardy count as there is hardy any wall and the side is obviously part of the 10 metre total length of the side of the bungalow.

So, take 2 x 10m and 2 x 8m, which makes 36m, multiplied by the height (2.5m for example), makes 90m. Then the gable ends. Even over-estimating, I am struggling to find much over 100sq metres.

I think some other quotes are needed. It's just tough, because there really aren't that many people that I feel inclined to want them to quote!

 

I didnt quote, i guesses

 

Basky

yeah its a jackonory story that fooker

 

AFPMSL. Perhaps I should dredge the old thread up!!

NO NO NO!

 

I would agree- 100 m2 would probably be about right....

be good to get some accurate measurements though Chris- then you can go to the other contractors and explain what it is you need and get a more sensible quote..

 

Dig the fooker up And dig a grave for the sad fuckwit that moaned about it while your there

 

Update. I have measured the bungalow now and to my surprise it looks like it is 140sq metres. Thats pure surface area, not taking anything off for doors/windows etc. So it seems that the guy that quoted wasn't far out with his measurements, but I still think 30 man/days is FAR too long for that job.

Further to the replies above, we are now looking at External Insulation, the type where they screw panels to the exterior, then render over the whole lot. I have seen some houses being done locally and I am interested to know how much it will cost. We need the place insulated anyway and having this done will give a nice regular surface for the render, which must cut down the time it takes.

 

well you wont have to mesh the wall s now

can you get a grant for the insulation,i know you can for cavity insulation

 

Well, I did wonder the same. This local firm,

www.cornerstonelimited.co.uk

......are doing a row of scabby council houses at the moment, so I can't imagine the procedure is that expensive. I am awaiting my call-back at the moment.