tony_turbo

not aimed at any car in particular. its to settle a dispute on another forum! i say no it wouldnt do it. please back me up

RWD_cossie_wil

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power is nothing without control , who knows if it had a top suspension set up, drag radials and a sequential box It might well be possible??

tony_turbo

just a bobby basic 4x4. nowt special

RWD_cossie_wil

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no

Porkie

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er..... NO

dojj

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it depends on how the driver drives it
if everything hooks up perfectly then i could see getting into the 10's being a possibility

AndyBrew

I can't see it myself

Dicko&Vacant

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my mate done a 12 sec quarter in a 320bhp 4x4 saff so really cant see why it wouldnt be able to get in the 10's with the power and a good enough driver etc

Stavros

So you think NOBODY, after all these years of 470bhp+ 4wd Saffs running the quarter, nobody has been able to drive very well?

Not a chance of a 10.2, esp with normal suspension/transmission/tyres setup.

Some people seriously underestimate how fast that is

CossieRich

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No

Stu @ M Developments

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Not a chance in hell.

bud-weis

his gearbox would shit it on the first serious attempt anyhow.

but he really wouldn't have a chance,maybe high 11's would be more realistic

Stavros

If he could manage a 1.6 60ft, which about the best he would manage in his wildest dreams with a std transmission and tyres etc (tho youd be lucky not to kill it) id say mid 11s at best.

But even that is pretty damn unlikely

RWD_cossie_wil

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but, talking theoretically of course, low diffs, say 4.44's, decent box/clutch to take a hard launch, and correct geometry set up and drag radials for the strip, would that power see you in the 10's? remember Danny B's RWD stage 1 saff with a decent rear end set up saw mid 12's

bud-weis

just can't see it....low 10's is sooo fast it's untrue, i mean he's gonna need to be pulling over 145mph at least

i'd say he's about 200bhp short

Chip

iTrader: (3)

Assuming that:
a) you completely change the cars weight and geometry
b) you have 470bhp

Im sure an 8 is possible if you go far enough with it.


But the question was about a standard suspension setup 4wd saph, which he has more chance of fitting up his arse in 10.2 seconds than he does of getting it up the quarter in 10.2 seconds.

Stavros

Nah, ive seen low 10s at about 130 from a road legal car.
And bet can go quicker than that too.

Its ALL about the launch.

bud-weis

from a road legal 4x4 cossie though?

Porkie

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Lay off the crack!!!!!

Do you realise how fast a 10.2 is???? A Macca F1 would be NOWHERE to be seen for example!!!


PMSL!!!!!!

Chip

iTrader: (3)

Porkie, what was martins power and best time in the previous escort?

(just to put this 10.2 into perspective )

Porkie

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STILL LAUGHING AT CHIPS COMMENT

Porkie

iTrader: (1)

Well Martooon did a 10.66.... but he only had a lighter and better set up car, 130bhp MORE and a 6 speed dog engagement gearbox....

Pull your finger out Mart

xr2i-carl

12.9 or 12.1 big difference?!!

Stavros

No, but thats irrelivant. Terminal speed is terminal speed, and if you can launch hard enough you can do low 10s in the low 130s

Chip

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That puts it nicely in pespective then, lol



10.2

Chip

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My mate has run a 1/4 in sub 9 at under 100mph terminal, RWD

Stavros is right, its ALL about the launch really at that level.

Stavros

Easiest way of making your 4x4 Sierra run proper times and not smash the transmission...

http://home.comcast.net/~xr4x4ti/V8_AWD_Pictures.htm

bud-weis

i know that much, i'm just referring to the car in question that's all

i'm just saying this particular car would need 200bhp more and pull high speed over the line with his current setup, (presuming the gearbox grew some big bollocks)

NEIL A

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No chance when you think Martin and Kev Sharp were in the low 10's but not as low as 10.2 and they both had around 600bhp with trick boxes and well set up cars. Ive seen Kevs old car run 10's before and the differance between that and cars running 12's is massive.

Stavros

Not 200bhp more if he was doing 1.6 60fts, which is possible

Porkie

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xr4x4rs

iTrader: (5)

what he said

any more info on it bar pictures

SapphyMike

That sierra looks like its still got still the same rear trailing arm setup, which is what causes the lack of tyre on the road in the first place?!

Stavros

Its not the rear suspension design, its the geometry people run.

SapphyMike

Very true, forgot you could have the rear beam amended to run a better geometry..

or you could just throw it all away and use something else like a car i know is having.