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21-02-2007, 09:33 PM
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FAO - Stu @ Motorsport Developments... REF 350BHp T28 Escos?
Stu, whats with the MSN name?!?!? Whats the latest on the 350bhp T25 Escort Cosworth development?!?!?
21-02-2007, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Thats the problem with this place, too many people stay ONLY in general discussion, and miss about 80% of the most interesting topics. 
My bad... I dont visit that section of the forum too often since I sold my ST Escort Cosworth... But, one may be on the horizon again, hence my interest in your package
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21-02-2007, 10:12 PM
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However, being serious for a moment, teh details are as follows:
I have always, from day 1, thought i could personally map the St Escos EEC system to produce far more than the normal 290bhp kit that we all do. The reason i never have done, is because i have never had a customer willing to leave me his car for a month, based purely on teh fact i "Think" i could do it... Understandable of course. Well, recently that changed.
We have pretty much finished the first stage of developing a bolt on stage 2 kit for the ST Escos thanks almost exclusively to RWD_cossie_wils very kind loan of his car to us.
The kit will comprise of:
It will all literally just plug in, no adjustments to make, just fit these components. Once fitted, the new conversion retains all the EEC IVs adaptive fueling abilities and of course the wasted spark and closed loop fuelling control system it has as std. The bay will look VERY much standard when you are finished.
The system needs some further polishing yet as we have sadly run out of fuel flow on the uprated Walbro ITP 048 fuel pump, which Will is going to pop down and replace early next week so we can push on, but all looks fine so far. At least the turbo is holding up this time.
Oh yes, a small point i missed that you were possibly interested in:
We will likely settle on a 28psi midrange overboost and 24psi held to the limiter on this stage 2 T34 conversion.
When this stage2 conversion is complete, Will and I will talk about rewriting teh software more comprehensively and fitting a bigger MAF, inlet cam, light porting, and some more power.
I have always, from day 1, thought i could personally map the St Escos EEC system to produce far more than the normal 290bhp kit that we all do. The reason i never have done, is because i have never had a customer willing to leave me his car for a month, based purely on teh fact i "Think" i could do it... Understandable of course. Well, recently that changed.
We have pretty much finished the first stage of developing a bolt on stage 2 kit for the ST Escos thanks almost exclusively to RWD_cossie_wils very kind loan of his car to us.
The kit will comprise of:
It will all literally just plug in, no adjustments to make, just fit these components. Once fitted, the new conversion retains all the EEC IVs adaptive fueling abilities and of course the wasted spark and closed loop fuelling control system it has as std. The bay will look VERY much standard when you are finished.
The system needs some further polishing yet as we have sadly run out of fuel flow on the uprated Walbro ITP 048 fuel pump, which Will is going to pop down and replace early next week so we can push on, but all looks fine so far. At least the turbo is holding up this time.
Oh yes, a small point i missed that you were possibly interested in:
We will likely settle on a 28psi midrange overboost and 24psi held to the limiter on this stage 2 T34 conversion.
When this stage2 conversion is complete, Will and I will talk about rewriting teh software more comprehensively and fitting a bigger MAF, inlet cam, light porting, and some more power.
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22-02-2007, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by AJC
good news that the management been cracked, i could of bought an auraulis one now
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22-02-2007, 11:47 AM
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T25 manifold has a smaller port, about 1/4" all the way around. You could open it out, but by the time you have messed around, you might as well just buy a good 4x4 one for Ł40
22-02-2007, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
About fucking time
Could never understand why people wanted to rip out a modern ecu and replace it with old shit from a ford sierra in the first place
Could never understand why people wanted to rip out a modern ecu and replace it with old shit from a ford sierra in the first place
Well, for over 12 years nobody could do anything with the mystical EEC IV, even though ive had the kit and wanted to try for 7 of them.
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Just wondering if people could go for a T25 flanged GT28RS or similar and not even need to change the manifold?
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
I can see the logic of going for the 4wd one, just wondered if you have to or not, ie although the ports are smaller how much will they still flow happily?
Originally Posted by Rick
Stu, what sort of idle PW do u see with these injectors (high z i assume), and what resolution can the EECIV alter the PW to?
Rick.
Rick.
A high impedance 55lb PH injector on a YB runs about 1ms at idle, so no problems at all.
Originally Posted by K5SSY
wonder what the price in total will be for this conversion then?
To give you an idea though, here is what you will need on your T28 EsCos.
Parts list:
55lb injectors. Ł300
Cooler plugs. Ł50
Uprated pump. Ł150.
Chip will definately unlikely be anymore than Ł500.
Then you need a:
T34.48 with -34 fitted. (We dont sell the turbo )
LT 4x4 manifold (We dont sell)
Shouldnt be too bad compared to fitting a downgrade from a sierra as you dont have to buy the:
Loom
Ecu
Sensors
HT leads
Coil etc
Distributor...
(Why fit a distcap back on your great engine?)Plenum & throttle body Etc
And you are of course gaining closed loop and wasted spark as standard, not to mention adaptive fuelling and spark control.
22-02-2007, 06:02 PM
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Thats very good to know as i am looking for an Escos this year and ruled out the small turbo due to the lack of tuning compared to the large turbo 
Well done Stu and Will
Well done Stu and Will
22-02-2007, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by zippyobrien
so will the maf be taken out of range at this piont?
and could you use say a hks maf wich has a higher range???
some one slap me if im talking shite
and could you use say a hks maf wich has a higher range???
some one slap me if im talking shite
yes, if we plan to go for the big 4-0 then i will be writing in a new MAF as explained in the original topic.
