Just finished a setup on a fantastically clean 3dr and to cut a long story short, when i tweaked his boost back up from 10.5 to 15 it became apparent he had one of the early 80s chips that flags a boost fault and puts the Red management light on every bloody time you boot it... the previous owner had plainly turned the boost down so this wasnt apparent to the prospective buyer...

Anyway... As ive not seen this dodgy old software crop up for a few years, this has just set me thinking;

Q) How many of you still put up with this old software? Have you removed the management light as suggested by some tuners or do you just live with it coming on everytiem you nail it?

Just wondering really.. because it would really piss me off...

 

didn't even know they had a mgmt light where is it?????

 

same thing on saffs aint it!?

red light flashes a certain amount fo times to dislay the fault!

 

on the panel that has the display for petrol light etc!

 

I've got a similar system Stu.


When I turned the boost up and booted it the gearbox immediantly shat its pants and a few red lights came on both on the dash and in my head

 

PMSL @ Lee

 

It lights up on mine quite often actually.

But I have an L8 ECU to go in at somepoint (when I get a fucking job and can afford it!! ) This will solve it then will it??

 

Saffs dont have em Lewis

Darrone,
It still may do it if the chips no good, it is only "Obvious" to folk with 3drs as only you lot have a management light on the dash to show you the chips crap

Porkie,
You should supply a "cleaning custard from expensive shirts" service as ive spilt custard on my new fooking shirt now from laughing at you!!

 

Do they not!? I htought they had soem form of light flashin error thing!

But hey wouldnt b the 1st time I was wrong!

 

or the last

 

to bad they aint got proximaty sensors fitted as standard as then i could of braced for impact!

 

 

it only comes on once though dont it, so thats the first time the boost spikes off the end of the 3 bar map sensor lol

does leave you paranoid that you have no warning about any other errors that you may get before cutting the ignition next time, i used to sit there bridging the plugs in the loom and watching the light flas and translating the flashes pmsl soon got bored of that lol

 

We are talking about 2bar map sensors here Matt not 3bars as ive never seen a greens or larger file mapped badly enough to flash a boost limit fault, so i presume your talking about some old stage 1 file and meant to say 2bar

But yes, apart from the fact the ecu drops into limp home mode, you also cant see any other faults develop and you have a gopping red light illuminated on your dash pissing you off

Why do customers think this is acceptable?
Why cant i have some of these easily pleased customers?

 

Yes, mine still does this

 

Mine used to on L1 ecu but i changed it for L8 and it never did it again, but the light never came on on the self test when the ignition was first put on either.

 

the 3dr i just sold did it, when i bought it the light came on after a few mins on the way home and with over 200 miles to go i thought `shiiiiiiiiiiiittt`, as it looks like an engine block i thought there was something really wrong with it, but it drove back fine. realised it was something to do with boost over the next day or say, everytime it hit 15 psi it would come on

have to say i dont miss that particular 3dr `feature` with the one i have now

 

for Matt to accept the cap in his ass to make up for me not capping it on the "other" topic

 

when my light came on it didnt go in limp home mode though, didnt affect the speed/boost at all :

 

You cant tell when a L1 goes into LOS.. cos its shit

 

On my original Ford chip i had in the 3DR it used to do this but NEVER on my stage 1

 

So is this not applicable if running a 3 bar?
Also mine comes on once in a blue moon when i start it up, i then turn it off and back on again and it goes away but this only happens very rarely, what could that be?

 

I suppose it could happen if running a 3bar if the software is very wrong, i just dont recall ever seeing it happen.

 

 

i've got the L6 ECU so i aint got no probs

 

what happens when a L1 ecu goes in to limp home mode then stu?
my old stage1 used to flash the light up,but didnt notice any difference to the drive.
the old stage1 chips where just standard chips with the boost limit removed weren't they?

 

The strategy changes slightly from what i can tell, its tricky to tell with that old dinosaur and ive never really cared enough to spend any time looking cos i remove the limitations properly and not shoddily like some mappers do/did so its no issue to me.

It just intrigues me how a tuner can charge you brewsters to fit a chip etc, then when you nail it the management fault light comes on, he tells you not to worry, or take the bulb out, and you all think its perfectly FINE and proceed to put up with it for years!!!

 

I use a level 8 ecu and my red light don't come on

it did with the old L1 ecu

 

its the chip though marco,not the ecu

 

Pops

i don't know to be honest i always thought it was the ecu

 

I take it thaf if you change to a L8 you have to change the engine loom also?

 

i still run a L1 lenny and new chip dont do it

if you over lay the map of an old standard L1 chip and a stage1 L1 chip they are excatley the same bar having the boost limit removed ( think thats what its called)

 

im sure they just plug in mate

 

Pete

No mate , i use escort cos throttle postion sensor which is backward compatable to run level 8 ecu

 

cool so you use a saph or early esco L8 ECU and the red sensor thingy that's next to the throttle butterfly?

 

pete

you use either escort cos big turbo trottle postion sensor or a sierra 4wd trottle postion sensor or you can use your same 2wd trottle postion sensor and swap the two wires over

 

No you can't .....

 

why can't you bill

 

no stu im on about my car on its greys and 3 bar with the boost peaking at 37psi, mines mapped this way purposely. not sure what youre insinuating about the map being being "bad" but really aint arsed enough to argue. i like it set up this way irregardless of the red light, the defi boost gauge dont though LOL

eh?

 

Cos you can't (well, you can but it won't work very well)

If 2wd car/loom, then you can swap to L8, but you need the 4x4TPS AND you have to swap the two outer wires on the TPS loom plug. The 2wd & 4wd TPS work in a slightly different fashion over and above having a different wiring configuration.