Jimboxr4x4

(apart from a flamer kit!)

I love seeing cars spit out the odd flame or two (my dad's Westfield for example ) but don't want a chavy flamer kit.

Obviously its when they overfuel but it is only a certain spec / set-up that causes this?

smitsturbo

anti lag maybe??

charlie luciano

iTrader: (3)

Oi there's nothing chavy about flamer kits, they produce the desired effect



Luciano

Neil S

iTrader: (1)

It's the fact that input values to the ECU are time-averaged, so that it takes a certain amount of time for the high boost and open throttle readings to settle out, hence it takes a small time for the ECU to cut back the fuel on overrun IMO.

Either that or the map is just not very good?

Neil.

Jimboxr4x4

I see. Am I likely to get an flames spitting out the back of my stage 1 cossie? I imagined it was only the big power cars that do it.

cossie4is dad

Mine does it but i wish it didn't

Steve.

charlie luciano

iTrader: (3)

Why? flame spitting cossies look phat bruv and its a fucking great detterent for tail gaters



Luciano

bud-weis

i 'think' the main cause is the over run fuel being lit by the very hot exhaust...some mappers use more fuel than others on the over run mind

cossie4is dad

Because im almost 37 not 17

And all that fuel im wasting

Steve.

vroooom ptssssh

Take it a 150mph blast down the motorway for a min or 2, get the exhaust hot....then let it roll down the gears on overunn (at night) an u'll see

JTECH James

iTrader: (13)

not if its closed loop, they have a fuel cut off on over run conditions

charlie luciano

iTrader: (3)

That's alright you've only got two years on me age wise and just think cossie's blast nuff un-burnt fuel out the tail pipe why let it go to waste light it and have some fun


Luciano

BILLY

This is what happened to mine (not up to 150mph mind you). My mate was driving my cos and I was in his 200sx. As he was cogging it down to stop at the lights a MASSIVE flame shot out. it was there for what seemed like ages too, I thought it was never gonna go out.

Jimboxr4x4

Blimey. Sounds like I might get a flame or two then

I'm 33 but still like seeing the sight of a cossie spitting out the odd flame or two

rapidcossie

mine used to spit massive flames all the time after Mark had mapped it.

Doesnt spit any flames at all since it was mapped by Alan @AVA.

must be someting in the map

A leaking exhaust manifold also used to cos big flames.

charlie luciano

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That's the best statement you've made in this thread



Luciano

fuzzy

ive been told mine does but ive no idea why or if its good or bad.looks good though especially when its coming from the exhaust of my 16 year old 'estate' car thats just over taken you

Jimboxr4x4

This is what cossie ownership is all about!

Now wheres my burbery cap gone

charlie luciano

iTrader: (3)

All this from a man who knocks Fords but has the heart of one is his crout estate


Hello Fuzzy hows it going geez?


Luciano

JamesH

iTrader: (21)

Usually a map for greys comes into it

Neil S

iTrader: (1)

My car used to do it on b roads without a flamer when it was stage 1, but only occasionally when giving it real horse and lifting from full throttle then reopening the throttle.

Really fast and bright flashes, not the drawn out flames you get from a flamer kit.

It's now on a MSD 803 0.63A/R T34 chip with Closed Loop fuelling and it does it like mad on gearchanges (with a flamer )

Neil.

CossieRich

iTrader: (1)

My stage 3 setup done it using an ahmed chip and my greys setup using a Stu chip also does. Big lingering flames that stay hanging out the back of the tailpipe for 20 secs some times. When the exhaust is proper hot and big boost gear changes and over run in 5th a lot

Jimboxr4x4

Nice one. Thats what I like to hear

fuzzy

alright mate,its going good. ive said it before and ill say it again the cars are tinny crap but the engines are good. ive settled for the best of both worlds

bud-weis

i'd be very surprised if the 'closed loop' works immediately when lifting from 150mph

MELTDOWN!!!

dovboy

dont know if i will get them with my new engine but this was taken with my old engine

frosty

cossie4is dad....Because im almost 37 not 17
i'm 35 so not too far behind u m8.....and i'm still fuckin lovin it.....

4x4

does the fuel cut off completely cut the fuel on the over run????

4x4

i was always under the impression that performance turbo'd engines also pop and bang when you hit the limiter and iirc some limiters cut the spark rather than fuel so unburnt fuel ends up going through the exhaust and igniting on the hot pipe anyone??


am i talking dog mess???

frosty

who cares...looks awesome no matter what causes it m8 don't u think.....see u at the pod eh......

4x4

if you talking to me than look forward to seeing your motor at the pod mate

frosty

was talking 2 u m8...see u there, weather permitting....

4x4

thats like driving a ferrari F40 and saying i dont want it to throw flames out on the over run cause im 67 or how ever old you said.

if that was me in the F40 i know it would probably be enough for me to floor it again straight after hearing the bangs, just imagine the feeling

Turbosystems

iTrader: (5)

over run fuel cut off on the old webber ecu's is not a total shut off, it is min injector on times for the particular load site you are now at on overun

cressy

iTrader: (1)

flamer are are awsome i love a look of the driver behind you when you toast there number plate

lukeytheduke

what happens when it splits out flames and a copper is driving behind you!!????

xr4x4rs

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i used a flamer kit and will be using it on my next car aswell

just for the grin factor of seeing peoples faces when they see a xr4x4 with big flames out the back

AndyBrew

personaly I'm 37 and I wouldn't be anything other than well impressed if I saw a flame fucking hell I need to grow up

lukeytheduke

isnt it ilegal though to have a flamer kit? what would the cops do if they sen it!?

Dave Henshall

my old stg 1 4x4 saph (with a ahmed chip) used to throw flames out when it was hot ,

but ive never seen my old stg 3 MSD chip escos with the coilpack pop a flame..