Windle

Long storey short some shite going on my website and i am trying to trace them back. there are 2 people browsing that have the same ip. Now this to means means they are either sat on the same comp or in the same building ?

before i go pointing fingers does anyone know if ntl broadband is different and lets some people in the same area share the same ip ?

Deerhunter

iTrader: (2)

ive got ntl. and have never seen that on any litriture i have.

Windle

so same as the norm same ip = same building same computer same person as they are at home not work

Deerhunter

iTrader: (2)

i realy havent a clue, but i have never read anything about being able to do that,
in the pack they sent, unless someone else knows ,and can help,

good luck sorting it out

frog

Where's the ip address from, do an nslookup IPADDRESS on your computer to find out.

Most Dialup and some broadband services show the same ip address to the outside world, it doesn't have to be the same building or pc... The IP address you get may be the IP of an ISP who has 1000's of customers, each with their own IP address on the ISP's private network, but on the outside world, they all look like the same.

Cheers

Windle

thats what i was trying to find out mate ? on dial up and ADSL you either have your own fixed ip and are given one when you dial up but pretty sure thats a unique one. I am just checking if this was the case on NTL as i have never used it.

His first post was calling us wankers for hacking his site wouldnt even know where to start

i traced ip and it came back wiv NTL Broadband server 5 in manchester which is local too me

Jim Galbally

could be proxied

frog

The one you are given when when dial up IS unique within the NTL network, but not necessarily the same you see on the outside world.

Jim Galbally

frog, i disagree, NTL is not PATed and so each individual machine does have an individual address on the internet...

so... unless the person you're talking about is very clever and is spoofing his address, i think you have indeed discovered your culprit...

frog

Jim, I didn't know that was how NTL worked m8, just saying how networks can run in general, and that IP addresses can be hidden by ISPs.

Jim Galbally

aye i know what you meant, sorry didnt mean to sound so negative i hve a way with words that takes something to be desired

frog

No worries m8, glad we understood each other in the end. (<- not litterally )

Windle

cheers jim this guy in question aint too bright with computers he was shocked i could tell he was on NTL for starters lol

i think he was a bit scared when i found that much out easily lol

CraigN

if he has more than 1 pc on the same connection ie ICS or hardware router the ip will show up as the same.

so your 2 users are probably 1 and the same jsut one account is for flaming you

Windle

yeh i told him this and he like well it aint me lol i knew this was the case on dial up and ADSL but NTL was checking didfnt work the same cheers people