Pete,RS Specialists

What confusing about the fact i thnk sierra will hold there money and i prefer them. The problem with the escort is that they are heavily outdated in competative market where as the 3 door is just a classic in its own right imo.

Have a look on the rsoc board and see the 14k problem riden examples i'm on about its FAR from a shed and actually looks like a minter. The autotrader is full of escorts that have been on there for months.

All you escort owners be honest now and admit how long it actually took to get shot of your cars

 

i know a few people who have bought an escos for around the 10k mark, they were all ok cars but generally had higher miles (80k+) on the origonal engine etc. If you want reasonable power you need to concider adding the price of a rebuild to the 10k then you will probably want a different set of wheels............ the list go's on, sometimes your better to get a car that needs nothing doing, works out cheaper in the long run & less agro.
I would be unsure of the value of my escos, its just waiting for the managment to be fitted now, when its run in i have a new set of 18" comps, new AP's & a escos plate to go it, them parts along with the engine rebuild/turbo & managment must be over 10k with out the car to start with dosn't make it worth over 20k though but i would want more than 14k

 

The guy who bought mine came up from Bristol, he'd been looking for 3 months for one. He didn't hesitate and need time to think when he saw and tried mine.

So there's always somebody looking a a good example and a well maintained one and they don't mind paying the asking price.

 

the rs 500 and escort cos are the king of the fords so mint exampals will always get good money you get what you pay for with these our it will cost you

 

I have been doing this job full time for 20 years now and have seen the full circle form Escort MK1 snd 2 fetching nothing when the turbo cara came out back around the cossies fetching sod all due the insurance in the 90s and back around again to MK1 and 2 escorts amking 10K plus,As I have said earlier the escost cossie the 3 door and RS 500 will hold and go up in value for good examples I see this daily sapphires will go for good money for the right car
Performance does not come into it your buying a classic RS,I see time and time again people moving to the jap cars which are far ahead of the RS BUT they keep coming back,as there is nothing like the buzz of a Cossie

 

All I will say when trying to sell a car make sure it is presented how YOU would like to see a car if you were buying it,This is n magor fault people forgoet hence why there car isnt sold,spend a little on paint and any small faults
The best money to spend is a full valet

 

Pete,RS Specialists

Agree with what your saying but i still think the next couple of years the escorts prices will take a hit due to the rise of the jap stuff. The reason the 3 door and 500 wont is obvious they dont hav any competitors as such there classics in there own right BUT the escort is in the firing line of all the major jap mchinery. Thats proven in the fact they just aint selling surely???????????

I'll no doubt end up in a 3 door tbh as thats what i really want and prefer them to an escort 10 fold

 

yes i started out with a s2 turbo which i loved then went jap with a sub and missed my ford rs so i came back becuse there just so much rarer i see a sub every day but you wont see my cos every day and thats why they will go up in money

 

it the owner needs the money then you will get a cheap one or if its modded then he could put it back to standard sell the goodies off it and then lower the price.

i wanted a modded car when i bought my 2nd escort and i got a bargain tbh,not mint but a decent used one with al the mods i wanted on it.

Alps, you may have to wait for a bargain to pop up if you want to get a cheap...decent escort cos.

hope its not a long wait.

 

Alps, can you just clear something up for me please?

You just said:
But, at the begining on the thread you said:
So, what do you actually want to purchase?

A 3DR or an Es Cos?

 

The funny thing is the Jap car prices drop like a brick unlike the fords,look at a scooby the trader is full of them now look for a good cossie and you will be hunting around for weeks and end up paying more than your origonal budget,The Escort does not compete with any Jap car it has no need to we all know the Evo handles better ect ect BUT there worth sod all after the first few years
Ask your self this question how much is a jap car worth in let say 10 years time ??
I will help NOT FAT LOT and no were near the prices of an RS

 

I seen a CHEAP escort cossie but if that doesnt come off i'll probably start looking for a 3 door. My integra is off the road getting some go faster bits put on and i guess i'm just bored lol.

If i can find a good escort for about 12k then i'll have a look if not i'll get a 3 door. Tbh i aint looking for either as such but if 1 take my fancy i'll splash the cash thats all.
I'm laid on me bed with 8k next to me in hope that the buyer pulls out of this escort but i doubt he will tbh. I can get together 12k so as i said if i see 1 i like i'll take a look.

This post wasnt started becaue i am after buying 1 it was started because i am genrally interested to see peoples views on the subject

 

Pete,RS Specialists

What about the tommi mak evo's ???????????????????

They dont deprecite like fook do they??????????

 

Alps Pacino, also take a look at the Auto Trader prices for a 93/94 Es Cos and then compare those prices to 93/94 Impreza, or GTI-R (pulsar) or GT4's. £ 3 K to £ 4 K buys the "equivelant" jap spec car.......NO way will Es Cossie prices ever be that low, or even under £ 8 K within the next few years - Es Cos prices are SOLID

 

now your spiltting hairs anything limited edition will hold money for a bit longer BUT will drop like any other jap car
You could say the same about a RS200 how much they making ???

 

Doug Stirling

Your confusing what i'm saying think of it the other way you can buy a 3yo scoobie for the price of a 15yo escort. I never once said they will drop to 4k, although went to see 1 for 8k and it was straight 70k miles full engine rebuild new turbo etc etc only thing was it w motorsport so straight car can be had for 8k no you wouldnt have seen that ever last year would you????????????

 

Pete,RS Specialists

Ye but an escort is more limited in numbers than a normal scooby or evo???????????????

Prices of some hondas have gone up crx vti's for example have risen in recent years due to the market growing etc. Imo the escort prices will drop SLIGHTLY due to the market getting smaller.

Look at the rsoc they are at rockingham this year cause donnington was to expensive POSSIBLY due to the lack of members renewing there membership(but thats a totally different argment entirely lol)

 

how can a motorsport one be classed as a straight car its built up with different bits ..
this question comes up every year and everyone says they will drop as jap car bla bla bla but jap imports have been coming in to this country for about 10 years now well on a bigger scale and hasnt affected the prices to much up till now so cant see it changing tbh.
also these cars that are described as mint and "look" mint in pics.ie the ones that aint selling.have you actually been to look at these cars? they obvously aint mint or are shite to drive or sumthing aint right with them.
having said all that if i was spending 14k on a car it wouldnt be an escos

 

Daviet

I think you should do a search and find out what a motorsport escort cossie is mate. It aint a rally car shell converted to road use its a basic no thrills car built by ford

 

what will be worth more when one is 6 years old and one is 18yo??
what you will spend on fixing a cossie in a year you will have lost on a jap car so swings in roundabouts really

 

Rubish mate

I sold my escoss the week before crimbo and only sold it as i got offered massive money for it

GOOD escort cosworths are still demanding BIG money

Pay less than 13k and see what you get for your money ,,I wouldnt even go and look at an escoss for myself under14k

 

Daviet

I am aiming the 3yo scooby v 15yo escort comment about non enthusiast. Think about it ll these 17yo chavs aim to own jap stuff not cossies so every year the market is getting smaller and smaller. Personnaly i would prefer an escort to a scooby or evo but the a average joe probably wouldnt

 

mate it seems to me you are trying to justify NOT buying an Escort cossie,its no good saying the prices will drop as they wont,well at least NOT for a good example anyway
Look at a sapphire theres some out there for 2K drive away BUT there total knackers now if you want a really good example you need to spend 4K plus,

 

NORTH YORKS RS SPARES

So what your saying is that every escort cosie under 14k is a shitter?????????????

I aint saying concorse cars can be had for that money but straight decent examlpes can

 

why do you think you will have to fix a cossie ?? thats why you buy a good one in the first place,a Cossie is as reliable as any other car as long as its looked after

 

Pete,RS Specialists

Tbh who knows non of us have a crystal ball do we so you cant say the prices wont drop an inch, and i cant say they will. I'm judging my opinion on just looking through the trader and seeing the same cars over and over again as it is on here and the rsoc board. So if there not selling there obviously shit or the prices need to be reduced into tempting buyers to part with there money????????????????

We will all see next year i suppose

 

No,,I said I WOULDNT go look at one under 14k as im fussy and IMO a escoss under 14k wouldnt be good enough for me
But if your not fussy and arnt looking for a very very good con escoss with CORRECT history , gen pannels etc then thats fine

 

Interesting topic but I really don't think that the market getting smaller if indeed it really is is going to affect anything, if you look at any classic car mg midgets, e-types etc etc good examples command good money and the Escort Cossie is no different.

I think its fair to say that if you have £15K to spend you can find yourself a nice example, if you have £11K to spend your not going to find one as good unless your very lucky!!!

and as for comparing the Escort Cossie to a jap car that is absolutely laughable maybe the 22B comes into the same bracket and maybe just maybe a Tommi Mak or Lancer Turbo but your average Scooby through to the latest Evo 9 are not comparable, better cars maybe but not comparable!!!

nobody would say an MG Midget is a drivers heaven but there are people out there who want 'em. And that is the point more an more of these cars are becoming owned by genuine enthusiasts like myself who neither wish to sell or need to sell, leaving the market full of crappy examples that nobody really wants! I don't have the Cossie because its the ultimate rocket ship I have it because I love it, and you can't put a price on that

 

NORTH YORKS RS SPARES

I still believe that a cossie can be had 60k miles original panels decent history for 12k, BUT they would take some finding just like any old car there are LOADS of shit heaps about i understand that.

 

There you go then get up off your ass and go find it instead of making excuses why not to buy one

 

ONLY problem with buying a car that 'needs nothing' doing, is the competence and the quality of the parts that are now fitted, can cost you more in the long run also, its a gamble either way

 

i know they can be realible mate all my friends have been but at end of the day its 15y/o roughly and are designed to last about 10 from factory therefor your going to be constantly replacing stuff and not just servicable parts. if they are driven hard alot the will break no doubt about that..your parts business wouldnt be as busy if this wasnt the case surely?

 

brew talks sense your buying an escos cuz of what it is mate

subarus in general are shite, unless a P1 or 22b and low and behold they hold pretty good money.

theres people out there who love minis (old ones) and will pay like 5-6 for a (in my opinion) stupid small peice of shit!

they prob think im a twat looking at ford escorts for 14k +

 

Pete,RS Specialists

The 1 on the rsoc board looks a good example its up for 12,750 i have already said if it was 1k cheaper on standard wheels i'd go and view it. But he's saying 12,750 FIRM which tbh is probably fair but that been up 2 month with no interest

 

sorry bud your so wrong I just MOTed a 28K Escort Cossie and the MOT tester said he had never seen a car so clean for its age,what did it fail on ?? 2 tyres so if thats the parts that you are on about that needs replacing I dont have a problem with that,one question have you ever owned a Cossie ?? or or you just quoting here say ??

 

The prices are pretty high still, way above what they're worth. Do what I did, buy an R33 GTR Skyline with 28000 miles on the clock for £10k and enjoy a car that would destroy an Escos on the twisty bits, and the track too come to think of it! Yep, it's a cult car and I loved both of the ones I used to own, but a Skyline is cheaper and soooooo much worth the money.

I await abuse!lol.


Andy

 

at the end of the day if you got cos with all the history low miles your going to want top money if you got one thats been driven in the rain ect . your going to want 11k thats why in fast ford buyers secstion there is a price bracket of 10- 20 k

 

again you cant compare the two cars totally different and havnt you got the skyline back up for sale very soon after buying it ?? I wonder why,by the way your 10K you spent you have lost already,now if you woul dhave bought a 28K Escort for 10K you would have been quids in and in profit

 

Andy

Loose a cossie with a skyline who are you trying to kid you must still have the skyline for sale i quess

 

good example,how do you know if you havnt looked at it ?? it maybe shite.thats why its still for sale i dont know,if it isa good one why argue over 1K as you can spne £500 on fuel and lost time running around looking for one