Warranty on second hand parts
07-01-2007, 07:34 PM
#121
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ford DID sell all there old cossie engines for 1500 quid,,,, it WAS graham goode who bought em all and ALL of em was sold BEFORE the days trading started,,,,,, ask DOO as he was in work on time that morning to buy a few
they never had many though
it is DEFO true though but was a bit of a moody deal iof that makes sence
also last year they flogged all there escos rear spoliers for fuck all aswell as,,,,, something else but cant remember
oh and after 2 years we also just CHUCK parts in the bin,,,,,, yes LOTS of nice stuff have been binned
one of our good inwards staff when checking the old shite pile PUT A HAMMER THROUGH A FOCUS RS HEADLAMP cause we had it for over 2 eyars,,,,,, seriously some of our staff just see parts as a label on a box
they never had many though
it is DEFO true though but was a bit of a moody deal iof that makes sence
also last year they flogged all there escos rear spoliers for fuck all aswell as,,,,, something else but cant remember
oh and after 2 years we also just CHUCK parts in the bin,,,,,, yes LOTS of nice stuff have been binned
one of our good inwards staff when checking the old shite pile PUT A HAMMER THROUGH A FOCUS RS HEADLAMP cause we had it for over 2 eyars,,,,,, seriously some of our staff just see parts as a label on a box
07-01-2007, 07:35 PM
#123
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I'm sure it was some of your group that worked at ford years ago that mentioned it a they get a news letter round all the dealerships with old stock parts there selling off cheap to employees.
Even you were buzzing on about it at the time i'm talking a good 5 years ago but if youask a few people i'm sure someone might remember as i do.
Not saying its true but thats what a few of them were sayig at the time like jay bash etc
Even you were buzzing on about it at the time i'm talking a good 5 years ago but if youask a few people i'm sure someone might remember as i do.
Not saying its true but thats what a few of them were sayig at the time like jay bash etc
07-01-2007, 07:41 PM
#124
Originally Posted by Ginge !
ford DID sell all there old cossie engines for 1500 quid,,,, it WAS graham goode who bought em all and ALL of em was sold BEFORE the days trading started,,,,,, ask DOO as he was in work on time that morning to buy a few
they never had many though
it is DEFO true though but was a bit of a moody deal iof that makes sence
also last year they flogged all there escos rear spoliers for fuck all aswell as,,,,, something else but cant remember
oh and after 2 years we also just CHUCK parts in the bin,,,,,, yes LOTS of nice stuff have been binned
one of our good inwards staff when checking the old shite pile PUT A HAMMER THROUGH A FOCUS RS HEADLAMP cause we had it for over 2 eyars,,,,,, seriously some of our staff just see parts as a label on a box
they never had many though
it is DEFO true though but was a bit of a moody deal iof that makes sence
also last year they flogged all there escos rear spoliers for fuck all aswell as,,,,, something else but cant remember
oh and after 2 years we also just CHUCK parts in the bin,,,,,, yes LOTS of nice stuff have been binned
one of our good inwards staff when checking the old shite pile PUT A HAMMER THROUGH A FOCUS RS HEADLAMP cause we had it for over 2 eyars,,,,,, seriously some of our staff just see parts as a label on a box
If ford decide to sell stuff cheap ,,or smash it up doesnt make a second hand item worthless does it
Anyway , to be honest i dont care if you think my engines or anyone elses are expensive ,,if you dont want it there are plenty of people who do ..
Back on topic PLEASE
07-01-2007, 07:52 PM
#125
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NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
I think you misunderstood what i was saying.
I simply put ford sold a load off for 1500, i wasnt implying that cause they did this yours are expensive, but was sort of saying that they did sell them cheaper than 13k which is what you were saying.
I aint bothered in the slightest as i dont intend on buying a 10yo cossie motor ever again
I think you misunderstood what i was saying.
I simply put ford sold a load off for 1500, i wasnt implying that cause they did this yours are expensive, but was sort of saying that they did sell them cheaper than 13k which is what you were saying.
I aint bothered in the slightest as i dont intend on buying a 10yo cossie motor ever again
07-01-2007, 09:27 PM
#126
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i personally think it depends on the item.
but do believe there should be some sort of warrentie, may be a month tops.
But the part will need to be proven to be at fault, or thats its the same part brought.
but do believe there should be some sort of warrentie, may be a month tops.
But the part will need to be proven to be at fault, or thats its the same part brought.
07-01-2007, 10:15 PM
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imo engines should only be sold at exchange prices for reconditioning/ rebuilding.same with turbos and gear boxes.
but thats general parts that are readily avaialbe.
rs parts arnt readily available.
i sold an engine to a local lad,ran fine fired on the first turn etc... 2 months later he blew it up...i told him to get his car set up properly but he never listened and he only needed the engine off me cuase he blew up his previous one the same way. i found ou why he blew his first engine.....running 25psi on a rs turbo without any other real mods to handel it..in car adjustable boost etc no big inercooler.
i think the only thing that traders can do regarding engines,turbos,boxes etc is offer a fitting service, many places do....so long as it fires and runs/idels fine or doesnt smoke or gearbox whineing then thats it.
a trader/breaker can not be responsible for the way someone drives there car.
thats the key point, i drive sensible....ive seen the way some of the other nutters drive, different driving standards have different effects on the car and service of the parts bought.if a second hand turbo came supplied with a main oil feed hose would you use it? bet theres quite a few who do, but you should replace it.
cosmetic parts such as interia,bumpers,doors,glass etc is simple inspect on delivery.
but its an interesting point thats been brought up, and if you put yourself in the traders point of view for a minute its difficult to work out just what to do.
but thats general parts that are readily avaialbe.
rs parts arnt readily available.
i sold an engine to a local lad,ran fine fired on the first turn etc... 2 months later he blew it up...i told him to get his car set up properly but he never listened and he only needed the engine off me cuase he blew up his previous one the same way. i found ou why he blew his first engine.....running 25psi on a rs turbo without any other real mods to handel it..in car adjustable boost etc no big inercooler.
i think the only thing that traders can do regarding engines,turbos,boxes etc is offer a fitting service, many places do....so long as it fires and runs/idels fine or doesnt smoke or gearbox whineing then thats it.
a trader/breaker can not be responsible for the way someone drives there car.
thats the key point, i drive sensible....ive seen the way some of the other nutters drive, different driving standards have different effects on the car and service of the parts bought.if a second hand turbo came supplied with a main oil feed hose would you use it? bet theres quite a few who do, but you should replace it.
cosmetic parts such as interia,bumpers,doors,glass etc is simple inspect on delivery.
but its an interesting point thats been brought up, and if you put yourself in the traders point of view for a minute its difficult to work out just what to do.
07-01-2007, 10:18 PM
#128
Originally Posted by rswoza
imo engines should only be sold at exchange prices for reconditioning/ rebuilding.same with turbos and gear boxes.
but thats general parts that are readily avaialbe.
rs parts arnt readily available.
i sold an engine to a local lad,ran fine fired on the first turn etc... 2 months later he blew it up...i told him to get his car set up properly but he never listened and he only needed the engine off me cuase he blew up his previous one the same way. i found ou why he blew his first engine.....running 25psi on a rs turbo without any other real mods to handel it..in car adjustable boost etc no big inercooler.
i think the only thing that traders can do regarding engines,turbos,boxes etc is offer a fitting service, many places do....so long as it fires and runs/idels fine or doesnt smoke or gearbox whineing then thats it.
a trader/breaker can not be responsible for the way someone drives there car.
thats the key point, i drive sensible....ive seen the way some of the other nutters drive, different driving standards have different effects on the car and service of the parts bought.if a second hand turbo came supplied with a main oil feed hose would you use it? bet theres quite a few who do, but you should replace it.
cosmetic parts such as interia,bumpers,doors,glass etc is simple inspect on delivery.
but its an interesting point thats been brought up, and if you put yourself in the traders point of view for a minute its difficult to work out just what to do.
but thats general parts that are readily avaialbe.
rs parts arnt readily available.
i sold an engine to a local lad,ran fine fired on the first turn etc... 2 months later he blew it up...i told him to get his car set up properly but he never listened and he only needed the engine off me cuase he blew up his previous one the same way. i found ou why he blew his first engine.....running 25psi on a rs turbo without any other real mods to handel it..in car adjustable boost etc no big inercooler.
i think the only thing that traders can do regarding engines,turbos,boxes etc is offer a fitting service, many places do....so long as it fires and runs/idels fine or doesnt smoke or gearbox whineing then thats it.
a trader/breaker can not be responsible for the way someone drives there car.
thats the key point, i drive sensible....ive seen the way some of the other nutters drive, different driving standards have different effects on the car and service of the parts bought.if a second hand turbo came supplied with a main oil feed hose would you use it? bet theres quite a few who do, but you should replace it.
cosmetic parts such as interia,bumpers,doors,glass etc is simple inspect on delivery.
but its an interesting point thats been brought up, and if you put yourself in the traders point of view for a minute its difficult to work out just what to do.
Glad to see there are people who understand why we cant / dont warrant engines / boxes etc etc
07-01-2007, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
Paul,
do you think you and other traders will suffer because of this thread.
will people now think twice before buying used parts, i certainly will.
do you think you and other traders will suffer because of this thread.
will people now think twice before buying used parts, i certainly will.
Martin
08-01-2007, 12:08 AM
#131
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
Paul,
do you think you and other traders will suffer because of this thread.
will people now think twice before buying used parts, i certainly will.
do you think you and other traders will suffer because of this thread.
will people now think twice before buying used parts, i certainly will.
Totally agree Dave
This thread im sure has got lots of people thinking where the hell they stand, and they dont have a leg to stand on as far as buying used parts
it all seems to me onesided in favour of the traders
08-01-2007, 09:03 AM
#132
Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
Paul,
do you think you and other traders will suffer because of this thread.
will people now think twice before buying used parts, i certainly will.
do you think you and other traders will suffer because of this thread.
will people now think twice before buying used parts, i certainly will.
thats there choice mate
I have never had any serious slaggings for selling crap parts and the fact if i did sell somthing that wasnt as it should be i will do somthing about it should say to people that i am a honest trader and i do look after my customers
The point of this thread was to ask people there opinion on what they expect as a warranty on second hand parts , simply because how can i improve my service and offer a warranty that people expect if i simply have no idea what they expect
I know feel that a 7 day warranty will probs keep most people happy on cheaper parts , but engines and boxes etc can be heard and tested so i feel thats good enough to be honest .
I do offer a warranty on engines / boxes etc if they cant be heard running tho
08-01-2007, 09:07 AM
#133
Originally Posted by grchmason
Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
Paul,
do you think you and other traders will suffer because of this thread.
will people now think twice before buying used parts, i certainly will.
do you think you and other traders will suffer because of this thread.
will people now think twice before buying used parts, i certainly will.
Totally agree Dave
This thread im sure has got lots of people thinking where the hell they stand, and they dont have a leg to stand on as far as buying used parts
it all seems to me onesided in favour of the traders
08-01-2007, 09:09 AM
#134
Originally Posted by S2martin
Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
Paul,
do you think you and other traders will suffer because of this thread.
will people now think twice before buying used parts, i certainly will.
do you think you and other traders will suffer because of this thread.
will people now think twice before buying used parts, i certainly will.
Martin
i see more and more posts on here where people are moaning about shit they bought from e/bay , but dont see any complaints about the traders on here and who says you dont have any comback from me or other traders on here Have i not given examples where i have replaced goods for people ???
08-01-2007, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Originally Posted by S2martin
Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
Paul,
do you think you and other traders will suffer because of this thread.
will people now think twice before buying used parts, i certainly will.
do you think you and other traders will suffer because of this thread.
will people now think twice before buying used parts, i certainly will.
Martin
i see more and more posts on here where people are moaning about shit they bought from e/bay , but dont see any complaints about the traders on here and who says you dont have any comback from me or other traders on here Have i not given examples where i have replaced goods for people ???Think i've only used ebay twice for car bits
i've actually had more bother buying from people off of here than any traders/ebay Yeah see your point about comebacks and you have given examples but without sticking my entire head up your arse i've never heard a bad word about you to be fair so if i was buying something and your description/word was all i had to go on i wouldn't have a problem with buying something
right gotta go wipe my nose as it is a little brown now
Paul do you actually have many comebacks though? for arguments sake like 1 in 20 is a comeback or 1 in 50 etc any ideas?
Martin
08-01-2007, 01:21 PM
#138
Originally Posted by S2martin
Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Originally Posted by S2martin
Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
Paul,
do you think you and other traders will suffer because of this thread.
will people now think twice before buying used parts, i certainly will.
do you think you and other traders will suffer because of this thread.
will people now think twice before buying used parts, i certainly will.
Martin
i see more and more posts on here where people are moaning about shit they bought from e/bay , but dont see any complaints about the traders on here and who says you dont have any comback from me or other traders on here Have i not given examples where i have replaced goods for people ???Think i've only used ebay twice for car bits
i've actually had more bother buying from people off of here than any traders/ebay Yeah see your point about comebacks and you have given examples but without sticking my entire head up your arse i've never heard a bad word about you to be fair so if i was buying something and your description/word was all i had to go on i wouldn't have a problem with buying something
right gotta go wipe my nose as it is a little brown now
Paul do you actually have many comebacks though? for arguments sake like 1 in 20 is a comeback or 1 in 50 etc any ideas?
Martin
simply because i do try my best to check all parts before i ship them
08-01-2007, 04:19 PM
#139
Originally Posted by grchmason
Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Originally Posted by grchmason
Originally Posted by col cos1
Paul how would it work on say a second hand t5 box,if fitted and say one of the syncros was knacked and it crunched when changed quickly in a certain gear,but whos to say it was like that originally or the buyer had been half clutching it into gear and knackered it himself???
This is why i dont well buy second hand. I only try to use new or refurbed parts with clear warranty details and a fooking receipt
You see all this did you damage it as you fitted it
was it damaged in transit
warranty has run out mate sorry 1 week 2 week 1 month etc this should be made clear by all traders before selling to peeps before hand
Thats why im staying well clear thanks
if they dont get one then i always tell them then there is no bad feelings etc By your reply you must have had some bad experiance with second hand goods
what you must remember is i and other traders sell thousands of parts every year and have thousands of very happy customers and thats why we are still in business , but , its expected that one or two may get a bad deal, you get that with new parts etc ,, its how we deal with it that matters
a bad deal post is always 5 pages long but a big up never gets past page 1
I totally agree with what your saying
and hope you do sell millions of parts good on yaa big boy
Its just i can afford to buy new so i do simple really. Saves me all this crap about being sold iffy parts etc then to be told to send it me back to you then you will check it etc
I no i am lucky i can afford to buy new or refurbed and others cant so thats fair enough
i just think its a bit of a grey area with what people should or shouldnt get as to warranty on parts and this is why this is a good thead
why dont you tell us all what your warranty on parts is?? give us all an idea on how you work etc
Hell you might even supprise me
Seem to be giving me a hard time about second hand good ( that you state you wont ever buy ) and there you are the very next day doing exactly what you say you wont do
Just made a total joke of everything you have said
What warranty did you get mate ??? or let me quess ,,you didnt ask
Sorry mate , but i just couldnt resist it , and have quoted your reply to the advert below to refresh your memory
1X SET FORD MOTOR SPORT 909 IGNITION LEADS Ł30
I will have them fella PM me your payment details
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08-01-2007, 04:50 PM
#140
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Originally Posted by grchmason
Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Originally Posted by grchmason
Originally Posted by col cos1
Paul how would it work on say a second hand t5 box,if fitted and say one of the syncros was knacked and it crunched when changed quickly in a certain gear,but whos to say it was like that originally or the buyer had been half clutching it into gear and knackered it himself???
This is why i dont well buy second hand. I only try to use new or refurbed parts with clear warranty details and a fooking receipt
You see all this did you damage it as you fitted it
was it damaged in transit
warranty has run out mate sorry 1 week 2 week 1 month etc this should be made clear by all traders before selling to peeps before hand
Thats why im staying well clear thanks
if they dont get one then i always tell them then there is no bad feelings etc By your reply you must have had some bad experiance with second hand goods
what you must remember is i and other traders sell thousands of parts every year and have thousands of very happy customers and thats why we are still in business , but , its expected that one or two may get a bad deal, you get that with new parts etc ,, its how we deal with it that matters
a bad deal post is always 5 pages long but a big up never gets past page 1
I totally agree with what your saying
and hope you do sell millions of parts good on yaa big boy
Its just i can afford to buy new so i do simple really. Saves me all this crap about being sold iffy parts etc then to be told to send it me back to you then you will check it etc
I no i am lucky i can afford to buy new or refurbed and others cant so thats fair enough
i just think its a bit of a grey area with what people should or shouldnt get as to warranty on parts and this is why this is a good thead
why dont you tell us all what your warranty on parts is?? give us all an idea on how you work etc
Hell you might even supprise me
Seem to be giving me a hard time about second hand good ( that you state you wont ever buy ) and there you are the very next day doing exactly what you say you wont do
Just made a total joke of everything you have said
What warranty did you get mate ??? or let me quess ,,you didnt ask
Sorry mate , but i just couldnt resist it , and have quoted your reply to the advert below to refresh your memory
1X SET FORD MOTOR SPORT 909 IGNITION LEADS Ł30
I will have them fella PM me your payment details
Ohhhhhhh Bitchy did i hit a nerve.Guess What i PM him first they are new
Seems like you have been really busy today.........NOT
Qoute away big boy you seem not to have anything else better to do
Oh yeah and have a... BTTT so everyone else can see what warranty you ......DONT GIVE
Great thread you started here for yourself
glad its going the way you wantMy last post on the subject
i think we have all seen the light 
08-01-2007, 05:00 PM
#141
Originally Posted by grchmason
Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Originally Posted by grchmason
Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Originally Posted by grchmason
Originally Posted by col cos1
Paul how would it work on say a second hand t5 box,if fitted and say one of the syncros was knacked and it crunched when changed quickly in a certain gear,but whos to say it was like that originally or the buyer had been half clutching it into gear and knackered it himself???
This is why i dont well buy second hand. I only try to use new or refurbed parts with clear warranty details and a fooking receipt
You see all this did you damage it as you fitted it
was it damaged in transit
warranty has run out mate sorry 1 week 2 week 1 month etc this should be made clear by all traders before selling to peeps before hand
Thats why im staying well clear thanks
if they dont get one then i always tell them then there is no bad feelings etc By your reply you must have had some bad experiance with second hand goods
what you must remember is i and other traders sell thousands of parts every year and have thousands of very happy customers and thats why we are still in business , but , its expected that one or two may get a bad deal, you get that with new parts etc ,, its how we deal with it that matters
a bad deal post is always 5 pages long but a big up never gets past page 1
I totally agree with what your saying
and hope you do sell millions of parts good on yaa big boy
Its just i can afford to buy new so i do simple really. Saves me all this crap about being sold iffy parts etc then to be told to send it me back to you then you will check it etc
I no i am lucky i can afford to buy new or refurbed and others cant so thats fair enough
i just think its a bit of a grey area with what people should or shouldnt get as to warranty on parts and this is why this is a good thead
why dont you tell us all what your warranty on parts is?? give us all an idea on how you work etc
Hell you might even supprise me
Seem to be giving me a hard time about second hand good ( that you state you wont ever buy ) and there you are the very next day doing exactly what you say you wont do
Just made a total joke of everything you have said
What warranty did you get mate ??? or let me quess ,,you didnt ask
Sorry mate , but i just couldnt resist it , and have quoted your reply to the advert below to refresh your memory
1X SET FORD MOTOR SPORT 909 IGNITION LEADS Ł30
I will have them fella PM me your payment details
Ohhhhhhh Bitchy did i hit a nerve.Guess What i PM him first they are sort of new
Seems like you have been really busy today.........NOT
Qoute away big boy you seem not to have anything else better to do
Oh yeah and have a... BTTT so everyone else can see what warranty you ......DONT GIVE
Great thread you started here for yourself
glad its going the way you wantMy last post on the subject
i think we have all seen the light Dont worry my business will not suffer because one or 2 people like yourself who will not buy from me because i dont give a lifetime warranty on second hand part that you claim you would never buy anyway as you can afford to buy new
Just face it mate YOU HAVE BEEN BUSTED ,
Anyway this thread was not about what people do and dont do its about what people would expect from a second hand part and i have had enough feedback from the kind people who told me there honest truth , so now i can offer people what the expect
Cheers Paul
08-01-2007, 05:07 PM
#143
ps,
Please remember , if i didnt care about my customers i would never have started this thread would i
I wanted to know people opinions so i could get some honest answers ( which i have ) and can learn from this and hopfully improve my service
Paul
Please remember , if i didnt care about my customers i would never have started this thread would i
I wanted to know people opinions so i could get some honest answers ( which i have ) and can learn from this and hopfully improve my service
Paul
08-01-2007, 05:19 PM
#144
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As people have said before, if you want a warranty buy new.
If you are lucky enough (not in a nasty way) the trader says as an example, listen to the engine and you hear/see it running sweet and gives a type of warranty then that is a good word from them.
Ive bought many second hand parts (some on ebay but with well known traders) and have had no problems at all.
As long as it is described honestly then thats fine, but what we have to think of is not just from the customer side what we would do, but also from the traders side too.
Basically Ive always thought if I`m buying secondhand then I have no warranty, as someone else said goto a oily car breakers and ask for a warranty...they may laugh a bit.
The traders on here and RSOC always seem to be friendly and helpful and know what they are talking about.
Dont let us lose the traders on here, they keep us all going and help us out at times...thanks traders
If you are lucky enough (not in a nasty way) the trader says as an example, listen to the engine and you hear/see it running sweet and gives a type of warranty then that is a good word from them.
Ive bought many second hand parts (some on ebay but with well known traders) and have had no problems at all.
As long as it is described honestly then thats fine, but what we have to think of is not just from the customer side what we would do, but also from the traders side too.
Basically Ive always thought if I`m buying secondhand then I have no warranty, as someone else said goto a oily car breakers and ask for a warranty...they may laugh a bit.
The traders on here and RSOC always seem to be friendly and helpful and know what they are talking about.
Dont let us lose the traders on here, they keep us all going and help us out at times...thanks traders
08-01-2007, 05:28 PM
#145
Jason
Thanks for that reply
People also forget the other service"s like free advice etc etc ,
I try very hard to look after customers ,, and i have even gave up sales to people because they have called me and said they need xyz , when they didnt , and i have told them how to fix there cars without buying expensive parts ,, do you get that service from e/bay etc
Thanks for that reply
People also forget the other service"s like free advice etc etc ,
I try very hard to look after customers ,, and i have even gave up sales to people because they have called me and said they need xyz , when they didnt , and i have told them how to fix there cars without buying expensive parts ,, do you get that service from e/bay etc
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