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Old 04-01-2007, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by rs shawn
SimonT I think tiesto also gets good reviews for the awesome tunes he mixes..then drops into the sets.
Unlike someone like fatboy slim who does crap remixes, crap mixes..then stands there with his arm in the air waiting for the adoration from the losers who go to listen to him.

I do agree that it's about playing the right tracks, but also about the technical side. That's why I love trying to do long mixes but only play cracking tunes
Agreed mate! Can't stand the fuckin twat!
Old 04-01-2007, 12:25 PM
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I used to work for Garage/One Nation and have seen some really disgusting mixing from so called professionals, although not all the time, maybe some of them should leave the class A alone, but nothing come close to the up and coming bedroom dj's who think they can mix in the club enviroment, believe me they just can't, We(One nation) used to run an up and coming room/corridor/broom cupboard basicaly to fill a space for free, well a few guest lists, but the countless demo tape i used to get from these muppets wanting to play the main arena was truly amazing, they used to get launched out of the car window on the way home sorry guys

bit of a cunts attitude really isnt it

Every DJ started off either in his bedroom, or mates bedroom/studio

Out of interest, what did you actually 'do' for turbo promotions!?
Aint a cunt attidude at all I take it you're a bedroom dj by the comment above

The difference with bedroom dj's are some think they can mix and some actually can mix, we booked guys for the main arena that could
That's why Garage/One Nation was at the top of it's game

Does it really matter what Terry or Jason employed me to do!



Cold, handing out flyers at the end of raves was it!??

Wouldn't know mate, flyers weren't my department, that was down to Paul and his minions and bedroom dj's
Old 04-01-2007, 12:26 PM
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no seriously, what did you do..

me may have met
Old 04-01-2007, 12:28 PM
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Mate I am a vinyl purist through and through. Nothing in the world compares to the buzz of mixing with vinyl.

But you have to move with the times as the old saying goes...
Old 04-01-2007, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveEscos
no seriously, what did you do..

me may have met


Guest list, Club Tours, Ticket/shop runs ans sleep alot
Old 04-01-2007, 12:36 PM
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SimonT
I see what you're saying: in the fact you can get thousands of tracks onto cd's or usb sticks..but I don't go anywhere that neccesitates that many tracks and I only do either smaller sets or with a few mates local or at a house so no need for me to have that many tracks.

To be honest, I've never tried cd mixing as I love the more physical side of vinyl mixing: looking through the records, sticking the vinyl on the platter, cue-ing it up, using your fingers to beat match the start of the mix, spin backs now and again..that side of it.
None of this pressing buttons malarky. You can get players now that will even do the mixing for you..takes the fun out of it for me.
Old 04-01-2007, 01:48 PM
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Mate give cd mixing a try! I was always against it until I tried it! Its almsot the same feeling as decks but not quiet.... nothing to lose though matey
Old 04-01-2007, 01:59 PM
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Apart from buying some cd decks
Old 04-01-2007, 02:04 PM
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he lines up records in the blinks of an eye
Nothing special about that IMO, I could happily have a record pitched up and mixed in within afew bars.
Its practice, and nothing more!
The skill is bringing it into the mix and fine tuning it without it being heard/obvious
Old 04-01-2007, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by martyn
The skill is bringing it into the mix and fine tuning it without it being heard/obvious
Slipmatt is a legend for that.
Old 04-01-2007, 02:25 PM
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What a good thread

Si, doesnt using USB sticks throw the most important part of DJ'ing out the window? FUN

I remember cramming my Sound Labs DLP1's (belt driven ) decks, a mixer, an amp and 2 massive Jamo speakers in my bedroom. Just about had room to open the record bag lol, but to me it was fun and then i played at a few 6th form parties etc etc. Never went anywhere and grew bored of it when tinkering with cars became part of my life, but i couldnt imgaine anything fun about USB sticks Maybe its just me
Old 04-01-2007, 03:03 PM
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usb sticks all sounds a bit .. super trance DJ to me


I must admit I use MP3's now a lot more just because it saves me spending Ł55 on a dub!


but 90% of my sets are vinyl
Old 04-01-2007, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by rs shawn
Apart from buying some cd decks
pioneer cdj1000's please just dont be a numpty and wonder why one wont play cos you have put ya fone ontop of the wheel
Old 04-01-2007, 04:37 PM
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ive tried cd mixin... it works dont get me wrong but nothin compared to the real deal on vinyl...

the most important factr here i think is different genres are mixed different...

and with garage it can b mixed like house... smooth and slow... or cchopped and quick...

and in a club u cannot beat chopped and quick... it keeps ya hyped...

where as smooth and long is relaxin and easy listenin...

DJ is the master at chopped and quick and he has a style like no one b4 him...

i think in a club he is untouchable for house n garage

Old 04-01-2007, 05:49 PM
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this is an example of what i mean


EZ doin Funky house...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pZPP...elated&search=


Old 04-01-2007, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by martyn
he lines up records in the blinks of an eye
Nothing special about that IMO, I could happily have a record pitched up and mixed in within afew bars.
Its practice, and nothing more!
The skill is bringing it into the mix and fine tuning it without it being heard/obvious
Go and do it to UKG then!
Old 04-01-2007, 06:42 PM
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Old 04-01-2007, 06:55 PM
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Hiphop dj's will always be the masters of quick drops.

Some music isnt ment to be just simply dropped - IE techno.
Old 04-01-2007, 07:01 PM
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So many of you are so wrong......

The skill is not the mixing......!!!!!!!!!

Mixing is a sport that can be learnt with a good teacher in around 3 hours...........

The skill is entertaining a crowd of 5000 people for 6 hours...

Thats the hard bit, NOT the mixing.
Old 04-01-2007, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by COMEDY DAN
So many of you are so wrong......

The skill is not the mixing......!!!!!!!!!

Mixing is a sport that can be learnt with a good teacher in around 3 hours...........

The skill is entertaining a crowd of 5000 people for 6 hours...

Thats the hard bit, NOT the mixing.
Thats so very true! Your wedding/reception/social club djs such as "firey phil" and "rockin robs mobile discos" do it week in week out to perfection...
Old 04-01-2007, 07:51 PM
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i remember a good 8 or 9 years ago, when i first got into ukg scene etc and i never really rated ez as a dj, from hearing his at the time on freek fm, and a few mix tapes...

well that year was at hollywoods... for new years eve,,, and heard my first ever ez set live...

well.. i was amazed...

just listened to the whole set and was soo impressed with how his tune choice, and ability to get the place to an emazing atmosphere..

what a night.. made me really apreciate ez and what he did...
Old 04-01-2007, 07:53 PM
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Old 04-01-2007, 07:59 PM
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well gotta help out us fellow uk garage dj`s

just had me thinking about the old uk garage scene back then...

freek fm 101.8, magic 90.2, london underground. 89.4, any i`ve forgot?

loved listening to the old pirates for years now....
Old 04-01-2007, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by pau1rs

well that year was at hollywoods...

top place back in them days
Old 04-01-2007, 08:43 PM
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ANY JUNGLE IN GUY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBeMo4uOnbI
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That guy who Dj's on Newtechpirates is shit hot too.. can't remember his name!
Old 04-01-2007, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by notSteveS2
this is an example of what i mean


EZ doin Funky house...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pZPP...elated&search=


Sorry!! but that is fuckin awful, the trannsition from Dave McCullen to Barbara Tucker is about as bedroom as it gets
Old 04-01-2007, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SimonT
Originally Posted by COMEDY DAN
So many of you are so wrong......

The skill is not the mixing......!!!!!!!!!

Mixing is a sport that can be learnt with a good teacher in around 3 hours...........

The skill is entertaining a crowd of 5000 people for 6 hours...

Thats the hard bit, NOT the mixing.
Thats so very true! Your wedding/reception/social club djs such as "firey phil" and "rockin robs mobile discos" do it week in week out to perfection...
How can ANYONE call them DJ's in the way we're talking about Tiesto, EZ, etc. !! These people are NOT proper DJ's in the same vein that people like Chris Moyles are not your traditional club DJ. None of these can mix music properly like a PROPER DJ. And I don't think that Firey Phil is really entertaining 5000 people for 6hrs like Paul Van Dyk (for example) does.

Yes they may have the music (probably on a laptop or one of those big tables like C Moyles has with all the music loaded in already)..but ask them to mix two tracks in together and they'd be fooked.
Old 04-01-2007, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by pau1rs
well that year was at hollywoods...

hollywoods brings back some memorys man!!!!
Old 04-01-2007, 11:52 PM
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Andy C & Mampi Swift

I do love a double drop though!
Old 04-01-2007, 11:57 PM
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Interesting replies
Don't forget the likes of Matt Jam and Karl Brown
Old 05-01-2007, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Flip2k3
That guy who Dj's on Newtechpirates is shit hot too.. can't remember his name!
(If we are still talking UKG that is! ) Although I hung up my NTP headphones a while back now...
Old 05-01-2007, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by adamS2RST
Although I hung up my NTP headphones a while back now...
yeah. the fact you played the same set every week got a bit boring!
Old 05-01-2007, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by rs shawn
Originally Posted by SimonT
Originally Posted by COMEDY DAN
So many of you are so wrong......

The skill is not the mixing......!!!!!!!!!

Mixing is a sport that can be learnt with a good teacher in around 3 hours...........

The skill is entertaining a crowd of 5000 people for 6 hours...

Thats the hard bit, NOT the mixing.
Thats so very true! Your wedding/reception/social club djs such as "firey phil" and "rockin robs mobile discos" do it week in week out to perfection...
How can ANYONE call them DJ's in the way we're talking about Tiesto, EZ, etc. !! These people are NOT proper DJ's in the same vein that people like Chris Moyles are not your traditional club DJ. None of these can mix music properly like a PROPER DJ. And I don't think that Firey Phil is really entertaining 5000 people for 6hrs like Paul Van Dyk (for example) does.

Yes they may have the music (probably on a laptop or one of those big tables like C Moyles has with all the music loaded in already)..but ask them to mix two tracks in together and they'd be fooked.
Do they or do they not just drop cut tunes in? yes.
Do they keep the crowd lively? Yes.

Its the same principle mate.

A Prime example for a totally shit DJ - who cant mix, or drop tunes proper is BASS GENERATOR. He's a newcastle lad if I remrmeber right but the Scottish idolise him. Only because he plays "crowd pleasers".

Exactly the same goes for Ratpack too. They are Shit. Both technically and musically but people love em just for the name.

The best advice to any budding dj is dont learn how to mix. Learn the tunes the crowd will kiss your arse for and then blag your way somehow on to the decks. superstardom will await you.
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Originally Posted by The Pony Feeder
Andy C & Mampi Swift

I do love a double drop though!

good fucking man!
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Any one can play a set FULL of crowd pleasers.. I do at bigger events and the crowd love it..

If you clang a mix (not that I do!) and the next tune that drops is BIG.. then the clanger is forgotten about and the roof goes off


BUT.... the more musically minded and people well in to the scene 'hate' a crowd pleaser set and prefer the more experimental side

hence you will get slagged from both sides. From the crowd pleasing, loving chav's.. for playing different, unknown stuff... and the original heads who will slate you for always playing the same old BIG tunes.

its a vicious circle.
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Originally Posted by DaveEscos

BUT.... the more musically minded and people well in to the scene 'hate' a crowd pleaser set and prefer the more experimental side
Always been the way mate. Then you get scene splits.

I dont really follow DnB now but I know theres more subgenres than fucking techno! liquid, jumpup, darkstep, ragga jungle, breakcore, dubstep etc etc etc
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gotta love the sub genres!

liquid funk gabba melodic speedcore!
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my favorite at the moment mate is:

harddubsteptechspeedmashcore.
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The principle may be the same..but someone who talks through a mic and says "the buffet is open..the buffet is open" in a Peter Kay stylie does not qualify as a DJ in my books.


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