stevieturbo

That isnt a mag-lite.

Thats a base-ball bat....in your case, a weapon of choice, chosen to hit someone.

Katie

Internet flippancy disallowed then? I wouldn't hit anyone with anything. It was an example of the effect of reasonable force dependant on size, which is a whole different matter to that of pre-meditated weapon use

stevieturbo

If you remove the weapon from an assailant, then reasonable force, would be for you to in turn use that same weapon to DEFEND yourself.

Or if they already have a weapon, you could obtain a similar weapon for defence.

Actually carrying a weapon, is an aggressive move, not a defensive one.

Ginge !

come on guys,,,,,, they threw some fish at his house,,,,,,,,,,, hardly deserves a driveby in he suburbs for that action,,,,, though for the eggs he should atleast give em a limp

stevieturbo

It is quite funny though lol

Anonymous

well they werent baseball bats but 2 foot long maglites, i just said bats so youd know what i meant.

plus we dont know who it is, we saw 3 people in a silver escort drive up and down, i can think of several people with ones including the 3 that jumped me, but i dont think they have my address.

they aint come back yet but we will be ready.

stevieturbo

Ya could whack em with a big Kipper ? or a big trout lol

fight fire with fire as the saying goes

Katie

Carrying and using a weapon that was not intended to be a weapon until the self defence issue is of relevance isn't an agressive move. Carrying anything isn't an offence unless it's regarded as an offensive item. I can carry a maglite to work...which is heavy enough to do some very serious cranial damage I'd imagine.

The point of contention warranted that you assess the use of a weapon by different persons, eg, normal person, versus a marine, an individual trained to be of a certain standard of physical capability.
If you want me to change it to read ''work/task appropriate item used during suitable time frame in suitable circumstances and situ in a manner which was not unforseeable to a reasonable objective bystander'' then I will. But what would be the point bar to be pedantic for people who wouldn't need to start this thread (that wasn't meant disrespectfully, but I'd assume it isn't a question you'd ask)...it wouldn't be of any more use to the topic starter, who I assume, doesn't have an understanding of the specific area that would warrant that to be neccessary..or he wouldn't be asking..

pm me if you have anything further..this is probably quite annoying for everyone else to read.

In conclusion....

Both dress up as giant fish..dance around outside their house singing
''we are the ghosts of the christmas fish you threw at the house down the road, we are the ghosts of the christmas fish and we're all alone in the world''...keep singing this until they lose the will to live and hit themselves with fish...

Anonymous

katie your a lawyer i should of just pmd you and added a bit of flirty fun into the pm

Katie

I'm a student hun, not a lawyer. I juzt likez law so much init I carnt get e-nuff ov bookz.

escossie560

But why fish are you sure it was the youths and not passing seagulls that lost there lunch and then came back for revenge

Anonymous

saff_cossie

Perhaps you advertised your house on another forum like you have done here and someone thought it would be funny. I know roughly where that is as I used to go through there on the way to Plymouth a couple of times a year.

The next Weston meet could involve a drive by!

As others have said, why would a marine need anything and how do you plan on catching them if they are driving by each time and not on foot? It is more likely that because you live in the middle of no where, they can drive past at speed and not worry about being seen unlike if they were in Plymouth itself.

Mark V8

iTrader: (2)

Give them some of this

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...=Fish+Slapping



Mark

Jimboxr4x4

I love reading the advice of all the 'legal experts'. Some really good quotes here straight from LA law!

Diamonds.

iTrader: (2)

"he's just the cook"



that fish will cook up nice then

SapphyMike

i live all the "yea i'd do this, that and the other".. like fuck you would

Nath

Maybe his Dad was a Navy Seal and they thought he was hungry!

Ash, surely you meant Steven Seagull

dojj

iTrader: (3)

it's got to be in a locked box, in the boot, unloaded
one of the guys at work got the sack ebcause he was carrying his on the front seat and got a criminal conviction for this

judoists don't use swords mate

you could have been on the way to the kitchen to make yourself an omlette

dojj

iTrader: (3)

i don't think you can buy 6 cell maglights anymore
the only ones i've seen have been the 4 cell versions (i've got a 6 cell and a 4 cell and a 3 cell )

R5FORD

iTrader: (1)

does that mean carraying a baseball bat iin tour car is illegal??

rssteve

still got them here http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MagLite-6-Cell...QQcmdZViewItem

stevieturbo

In short.... YES.

Unless you can convince the police otherwise......and I wouldnt like to be in that position.

I was once with a poxy baton with Lanzarote stamped on it, that a mate had brought back from holiday.
I rarely use the car that I was driving that night, and it had been lying in the car for months since he gave me it.

We were stopped at a routine check, and it was spotted. Of course the police went daft, despite it being a lightweight POS. If you were to hit someone, it would have broke.
They had me stopped for about an hour while they searched the car, finding nothing obviously.

They threatened all sorts, and I just told the to wise up. I lodged a complaint against them for detaining and carrying out an illegal search against my will, and tried to raise charges of steailing the gift from me.

Eventually they dropped everything and the gift was returned to me ( after about 2 years ), although my complaints against them, were never really taken seriously by the Ombudsman either.

You may not think these things are weapons....well, by asking, you know its a weapon. Just be aware there can be nasty consequences.

R5FORD

iTrader: (1)

actully a baseball bat as long as you have a tennies ball or baseball or some ball of that kind isnt a weapon... officer iv just come from the park

stevieturbo

With Officer Dibble, he might believe that......

Even Cleetus wouldnt though if you were stopped under even slightly suspicious circumstances.

sedan man

im pissing myself laughing at this thread.... as if peolple drive up and down your street scooping out your property to throw fish at your windows.pmsl

SURELY THIS IS A WIND UP

R5FORD

iTrader: (1)

they belive it.. me and my dad both got stoped and we had a metal baseball bat and a ball and a glove

stevieturbo

Was it like this ??



or this ?



or this ?



lol

Ginge !

mate i know the correct way to travel with a firearm mate,,,,,, my cousin owns a farm and has a few riffles and shot guns,,,,, though no hand guns or sawn offs for some reason,,,,, seems they aint any use for phestants


i also got done for possesion when i was 16 and used ignorance as my defence,,,,,, btw it aint a defence in this country belive it or not

BUT i did get told the correct way to carry a air riffle when not being used inn my garden,,,,,, and im afraid it aint holding it loading in my right hand shooting a police car whilst my mates laugh along with it i learned



though doubt that excuse for the eggs will work if hes got face paint on a camoflarge combats at 2am in the morning,,,,, but i aint a legal expert

dojj

iTrader: (3)

item is being shipped frm the USA

and yes ginge, my mate got done for carrying it in the passenger footwell (air rifle) and pleaeding ignornace but still got done for it

dunblame tighten up a lot of laws that were still lax after that bloke from round hungerford ways