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Originally Posted by Katie
I could hit somebody with a baseball bat and claim I was so small I needed that bat for reasonable force...but if a marine hits someone with a bat it's not going to cut it really is it.
Thats a base-ball bat....in your case, a weapon of choice, chosen to hit someone.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Originally Posted by Katie
I could hit somebody with a baseball bat and claim I was so small I needed that bat for reasonable force...but if a marine hits someone with a bat it's not going to cut it really is it.
Thats a base-ball bat....in your case, a weapon of choice, chosen to hit someone.
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If you remove the weapon from an assailant, then reasonable force, would be for you to in turn use that same weapon to DEFEND yourself.
Or if they already have a weapon, you could obtain a similar weapon for defence.
Actually carrying a weapon, is an aggressive move, not a defensive one.
Or if they already have a weapon, you could obtain a similar weapon for defence.
Actually carrying a weapon, is an aggressive move, not a defensive one.
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come on guys,,,,,, they threw some fish at his house,,,,,,,,,,, hardly deserves a driveby in he suburbs for that action,,,,, though for the eggs he should atleast give em a limp
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well they werent baseball bats but 2 foot long maglites, i just said bats so youd know what i meant.
plus we dont know who it is, we saw 3 people in a silver escort drive up and down, i can think of several people with ones including the 3 that jumped me, but i dont think they have my address.
they aint come back yet but we will be ready.
plus we dont know who it is, we saw 3 people in a silver escort drive up and down, i can think of several people with ones including the 3 that jumped me, but i dont think they have my address.
they aint come back yet but we will be ready.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
If you remove the weapon from an assailant, then reasonable force, would be for you to in turn use that same weapon to DEFEND yourself.
Or if they already have a weapon, you could obtain a similar weapon for defence.
Actually carrying a weapon, is an aggressive move, not a defensive one.
Or if they already have a weapon, you could obtain a similar weapon for defence.
Actually carrying a weapon, is an aggressive move, not a defensive one.
The point of contention warranted that you assess the use of a weapon by different persons, eg, normal person, versus a marine, an individual trained to be of a certain standard of physical capability.
If you want me to change it to read ''work/task appropriate item used during suitable time frame in suitable circumstances and situ in a manner which was not unforseeable to a reasonable objective bystander'' then I will. But what would be the point bar to be pedantic for people who wouldn't need to start this thread (that wasn't meant disrespectfully, but I'd assume it isn't a question you'd ask)...it wouldn't be of any more use to the topic starter, who I assume, doesn't have an understanding of the specific area that would warrant that to be neccessary..or he wouldn't be asking..
pm me if you have anything further..this is probably quite annoying for everyone else to read.
In conclusion....
Both dress up as giant fish..dance around outside their house singing
''we are the ghosts of the christmas fish you threw at the house down the road, we are the ghosts of the christmas fish and we're all alone in the world''...keep singing this until they lose the will to live and hit themselves with fish...
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Originally Posted by Porsche911r101
katie your a lawyer i should of just pmd you and added a bit of flirty fun into the pm ![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
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Originally Posted by Katie
Originally Posted by Porsche911r101
katie your a lawyer i should of just pmd you and added a bit of flirty fun into the pm ![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
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Originally Posted by Porsche911r101
if its kids why is our house the only one on a culdesac of 6 that face the mainroad, the only one to be targeted ?
the eggs seem to have been thrown from the main road, we live opposite the petrol station in east taphouse for those of you who know the place.
so they take the time to go to my house, lob 2 fish at the front window (im guessing they were gonna put it through the letterbox we just happened to turn the tv off at the right time?) then 3 hours later lobb 3 eggs at the back of the house ?
they aint come back yet.
gonna check if the petrol station has it on cctv tommorow.
the eggs seem to have been thrown from the main road, we live opposite the petrol station in east taphouse for those of you who know the place.
so they take the time to go to my house, lob 2 fish at the front window (im guessing they were gonna put it through the letterbox we just happened to turn the tv off at the right time?) then 3 hours later lobb 3 eggs at the back of the house ?
they aint come back yet.
gonna check if the petrol station has it on cctv tommorow.
The next Weston meet could involve a drive by!
As others have said, why would a marine need anything and how do you plan on catching them if they are driving by each time and not on foot? It is more likely that because you live in the middle of no where, they can drive past at speed and not worry about being seen unlike if they were in Plymouth itself.
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Originally Posted by Ginge !
katie does that mean i can carry a gun aslong as im on my way to my gun club,,,,,,, cool
one of the guys at work got the sack ebcause he was carrying his on the front seat and got a criminal conviction for this
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got the sword as i got judo lessons after work too
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Originally Posted by Ginge !
but sorry officer buy ive no excuse for carrying them eggs,,,,,,its a fair cop gov ![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
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Originally Posted by Porsche911r101
well they werent baseball bats but 2 foot long maglites, i just said bats so youd know what i meant.
the only ones i've seen have been the 4 cell versions (i've got a 6 cell and a 4 cell and a 3 cell
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Originally Posted by R5FORD
does that mean carraying a baseball bat iin tour car is illegal??
Unless you can convince the police otherwise......and I wouldnt like to be in that position.
I was once with a poxy baton with Lanzarote stamped on it, that a mate had brought back from holiday.
I rarely use the car that I was driving that night, and it had been lying in the car for months since he gave me it.
We were stopped at a routine check, and it was spotted. Of course the police went daft, despite it being a lightweight POS. If you were to hit someone, it would have broke.
They had me stopped for about an hour while they searched the car, finding nothing obviously.
They threatened all sorts, and I just told the to wise up. I lodged a complaint against them for detaining and carrying out an illegal search against my will, and tried to raise charges of steailing the gift from me.
Eventually they dropped everything and the gift was returned to me ( after about 2 years ), although my complaints against them, were never really taken seriously by the Ombudsman either.
You may not think these things are weapons....well, by asking, you know its a weapon. Just be aware there can be nasty consequences.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Originally Posted by R5FORD
does that mean carraying a baseball bat iin tour car is illegal??
Unless you can convince the police otherwise......and I wouldnt like to be in that position.
I was once with a poxy baton with Lanzarote stamped on it, that a mate had brought back from holiday.
I rarely use the car that I was driving that night, and it had been lying in the car for months since he gave me it.
We were stopped at a routine check, and it was spotted. Of course the police went daft, despite it being a lightweight POS. If you were to hit someone, it would have broke.
They had me stopped for about an hour while they searched the car, finding nothing obviously.
They threatened all sorts, and I just told the to wise up. I lodged a complaint against them for detaining and carrying out an illegal search against my will, and tried to raise charges of steailing the gift from me.
Eventually they dropped everything and the gift was returned to me ( after about 2 years ), although my complaints against them, were never really taken seriously by the Ombudsman either.
You may not think these things are weapons....well, by asking, you know its a weapon. Just be aware there can be nasty consequences.
actully a baseball bat as long as you have a tennies ball or baseball or some ball of that kind isnt a weapon... officer iv just come from the park
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im pissing myself laughing at this thread....
as if peolple drive up and down your street scooping out your property to throw fish at your windows.pmsl
SURELY THIS IS A WIND UP
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
With Officer Dibble, he might believe that......
Even Cleetus wouldnt though if you were stopped under even slightly suspicious circumstances.
Even Cleetus wouldnt though if you were stopped under even slightly suspicious circumstances.
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Originally Posted by Ginge !
katie does that mean i can carry a gun aslong as im on my way to my gun club,,,,,,, cool
one of the guys at work got the sack ebcause he was carrying his on the front seat and got a criminal conviction for this
Originally Posted by Ginge !
got the sword as i got judo lessons after work too
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but sorry officer buy ive no excuse for carrying them eggs,,,,,,its a fair cop gov ![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
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mate i know the correct way to travel with a firearm mate,,,,,, my cousin owns a farm and has a few riffles and shot guns,,,,, though no hand guns or sawn offs for some reason,,,,, seems they aint any use for phestants
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i also got done for possesion when i was 16 and used ignorance as my defence,,,,,, btw it aint a defence in this country belive it or not
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BUT i did get told the correct way to carry a air riffle when not being used inn my garden,,,,,, and im afraid it aint holding it loading in my right hand shooting a police car whilst my mates laugh along with it i learned
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though doubt that excuse for the eggs will work if hes got face paint on a camoflarge combats at 2am in the morning,,,,, but i aint a legal expert
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still got them here http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MagLite-6-Cell...QQcmdZViewItem
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and yes ginge, my mate got done for carrying it in the passenger footwell (air rifle) and pleaeding ignornace but still got done for it
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dunblame tighten up a lot of laws that were still lax after that bloke from round hungerford ways
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