banhambuilt

i keep reading about all these colour injectors for a given bhp,it`s all a bit confusing to me really .

what i am after is a reliable 330-350 bhp in the rs200 with a 4x4 cossie engine.

engine has done 27000 miles,will it need a stripdown at this mileage?
heads never been skimmed (measured it at 139mm as per ford spec)

what will i need regarding turbo,injectors,actuators,chip etc.

please excuse me if this thread has been done a million time before,but i am a numpty for remembering things

thanks
dave

R5FORD

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green injectors...stage 3 chip...3 bar map sensor...t34 turbo o a 63 housing will get 380 bhp... i belive

correct if i am wrong

JamesH

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This will get 350 on the right chip, and be very reliable, so just what he wants

banhambuilt

thanks for that
how about prices?

can you get a decent priced good t34?

thanks
dave

charlie luciano

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Turbo should cost around £700


Luciano

xr2i-carl

R5FORD

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im learning

KSA-Cossie

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Whats the max power you can get from a t34 with .48 housing then ?

pete mcrash

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.48 housing will get ya 350+....with a bit quicker spool up....but a .63 u will have more if wanted...

pete mcrash

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....now ya gona start something.....my pal got 383bhp with light blues

xr4x4rs

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i would put a grp a head gasket on at the minimu

regardless of how many miles your engine has done

start chucking 25psi through it the head gasket is going to shit itself

but other than that

greens
3 bar
t35 .63 ex
be worth upgrading the intercooler
and as the said the rite chip

pete mcrash

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nobody has said...greens and standard t3...if he wants 330 that is, and i've got a M.S.D chip lying about somewhere

banhambuilt

all good comments,thanks

so i would be running about 25psi?

i already have an uprated intercooler i had custom made for my old rs200,so that should be ok.

would it be best to fit a group a headgasket or similar?

uprated (arp) head bolts/studs


as post above can you really get 330 ish out of greens and standard t3,if so for a standard ford part that`s brillant,100+ bhp and still with a stock turbo (if correct)

dave

pete mcrash

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u calling me a liar..... t3 greens (803's) 3bar 22-23psi...320-330 bhp

Nash

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My mate from Nantwich was running greens and standard T3 was around 300bhp but really was pushing it. He added a T34 with a .55 ex[i think] and its defo quicker than before and he prefers it as feels alot stronger. i would personally go for a T34 instead of putting that much stress on a T3, but it's upto you.

As for who to get the chip and other bits off, i would use Stu at MSD thats who i will be getting to do mine when i have a bit more cash. As for turbo's for sales section in here is usually pretty good.

KSA-Cossie

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Cheers pete.

pete mcrash

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forgot to say....reliable and cosworth are words that dont mix....

lamb chops

As said Dave you could keep the T3 but would be pushing it at 300 and wouldn’t expect it to last that long. T34 would be the best option, I would get a .48 housing and have the quicker spool. You see good second hand ones on here for about £350 400. If you live near Blackpool area I would recommend a trip to MSD for a setup and perhaps coil packs and closed loop lambda for the ultimate

Internals wise Grp A head gasket and job done unless you want closer to the 400 BHP mark but then you will be pushing it on the standard dif and gearbox. A genuine 330 with the cars light weight and it will be a proper weapon.

thedaddie

i have a turbo i no longer need which is for stage 3 if your interested
i have had the turbo for 4 years and has been sat in the loft never used.
fully rebuilt by i think off the top of my head turbo dynamics so is as new

it is a t34.63 also comes with a silicon boost pipe and a grp a k&n air filter

price is £750
if you was to take this i could also get you injectors at trade price as my dad works for bosch

i was going to use this turbo but my car needs new sills and as i have just got married and had a kid its drained my funds.

i'm running a standard block/head with a tripple layer gasket
light blue injectors
alloy rs500 intercooler
grp a coil
spec r grp a oil seperator
t34.63
large air filter

running 356bhp during the summer heat wave so could pull another 10-15bhpon a normal day

so as you see you dont need much to get a lot of power
here is a printout after it was setup

here is my car 4wd cossie cabrio



i like your project looks cool good luck with it

R4N SS

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now that i like any more pics?

DazC

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What about the word RELAIBLE in the topic title?

Once you have got the power you need the engine to hold together.

I suggest a decent radiator and intercooler ensuring the cooling fans work,
An uprated breather,
A new engine wiring loom,
Uprated head gasket,
New fuel pump,
New fuel pressure regulator,
New coolant, boost and signal pipes,
Full set of new sensors.

Just to mention a few pointers

banhambuilt

[quote="DazC"]What about the word RELAIBLE in the topic title?

Once you have got the power you need the engine to hold together.

I suggest a decent radiator and intercooler ensuring the cooling fans work,
An uprated breather,
A new engine wiring loom,
Uprated head gasket,
New fuel pump,
New fuel pressure regulator,
New coolant, boost and signal pipes,
Full set of new sensors.

Just to mention a few pointers[/quote

the bits mentioned above will all be new anyways,as i bought a suspension,engine,box package,i don`t have much choice but to buy new.
dave

Eagle

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im running 24 psi on a standard headgasket and have been for around a year

Bullett

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depends on the treatment mate. i was 330bhp on t3,bajoo chip,dark greens,3 bar,-31 and standard 4x4 intercooler.ran that for a year then went t34 to go up to 350 and the engine has 148k on it now and original bar the headgasket upgrade.

SS1

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thedaddie

Nookerhead

Think im missing something here! Reliable and cosworth definately dont go hand in hand,

Nookerhead

Hows about RELIABLE!!

MARCOSWORTH

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How many miles

Mr Brannen

That convertible is awesome by the way

DazC

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Twat! I was in a rush! Thought I had spelt it properly!!

foreigneRS

if you buy a t34, try and get one with a maram shaft so that you can run antilag - if your car looks like a rally car, it should sound like one too

pete mcrash

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yes to the above.....

Nookerhead

Dont rush!!

banhambuilt

maram shaft?
what does that do over the standard shaft then?

concerning anti-lag,i thought you have to run a p8 for this?
what does it sound like? anything like wastegate chatter?

cheers
dave

charlie luciano

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If your car is 4x4 buy yourself a decent gearbox


Luciano

foreigneRS

a maram shaft is made of a different material to a std turbo shaft and can take the shock loading (don't know if the heat also comes into play) caused by antilag

you do not need to run a p8 for antilag. it can be done with L8.

what does it sound like? a proper rally car from the early 90's

banhambuilt

anything like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puGCda4ThvU
sounds like the bottom ends fallen out
dave

Little_Hoss

yep thats anti lag