on the Escos, I mean with a top tuner , with say a 400bhp engine, could they use the cylinder head and block, the car in question has only done 20k so they are in perfect nick, whats required bar the engine- management,turbo what else....
Can someone give me close prices from the like of SCS,and MAD etc.
For it all to be done properly y know

Thanks

 

Just take it to Mark for Full Autronics mate, get proper job done then

 

Yeah Rhys but the lad wants to know a ball park figure, theres no question he`s got the money to do whatever but he wants to know where he is with a price y`know

 

Inc turbo you would be looking at 4K or there abouts.

Mark

 

Providing the fuel pump was changed aswell, what figures would it walk out with then Mark?

 

350ish depending on what boost you want to run I am doing one now hopefully I will have a RR graph for it from a Dyno dynamic unit.

Mark

 

Does that inc using his existing head and block Mark

 

Brannen that will be on std engine

Mark when you look at it like that, from std to 350bhp and on new management, the price is not all that bad!

 

Thing is you don't NEED to change to aftermarket management to get 350hp a L8 ECU is up to the job and very cheap!
Not an Autronics slagging post !

 

Its already been chipped at MSD, 300bhp

 

Buy it all new and I bet it gets close not a L8 slagging post
and the Autronic comes with ALS/Launch control/Full throttle shift and a few other features I wanted or needed

Mark

 

Yeah Im not sure if he wants Autronics n that , he just hates being restricted with the small turbo set up

 

He would realy need to change managent to another kind.

Mark

 

Yeah I know Mark, like I say he has the money but its trying to get him to see that if its worth doing then its worth doing properly, not too sure wether he wants to go the whole hogg or not I know I would but its not my money

 

My big turbo conversion runs L8 management.

 

BUT a secondhand L8 costs £150 at the most and why would he need to buy new? It's an O.E. part that WILL do the job which will save the guy money which can be spent elseware! This is still not an Autronics slagging post

 

Then you need him to set a budget and weather he wants new or used.

Mark

 

Yeah your right Mark , TBH i think I know what figure he wants, he`s looking at 3k or less

 

some people want new parts some people have to watch what the spend.

Better having a word with your mate to see what he wants and what he is happy with getting put on his car...i.e used patrs.

 

It has nothing to do with the weather Some second hand parts are acceptable i.e. a L8 ECU others are not i.e. a 10yr old+ loom. I don't mind using stuff that's not new as long as it does not compromise reliability... it makes the bill cheaper or allows money to be spent elsewhere!!!

 

I`ll speak to you tomorrow Martin, thanks for your help mate

 

He won't get one for that.

 

Marks just quoted 4k with Autronics tho gotta be close to 3k without surely

 

The autronic fitted with injectors is £2500+vat then you add the turbo and fuel pump.

Mark

 

cool, no problems

 

You also need to add chip/ecu/Injectors/dizzy/coil/mapsensor/leads/front pully/crank sensor/water temp sensor/air temp/rev counter, There maybe a couple of other bits but I cant remeber them, or you could also add a MSD coil pack driver for the twin coils, So the cost will add up quickly.

Mark

 

This conversion can be done for 2k easily ( with GOOD QUALITY second hand parts )

I supply a lot of conversion kits for exactly this job

 

weve done that a few times now and the best way is l8 ecu 2wd drive loom rebuilt new t34 turbo greens 3 bar etc upgrade fuel pump.last one we done made 351bhp 24psi on dyno dynamics charged the bloke 2.5k al in

 

Just curious...Are you using a s'hand loom and green injectors for 400hp?

 

£2k-£2.5k is good.

 

yes martin second hand loom new greens 350 ish bhp

 

but the guy was asking about 400hp! it's easy to cut corners and make things look cheap but long term an old loom is more trouble than it's worth... sorry if that goes against the grain!

 

one of my mates did that to his escos few months ago and he paid round 2.5k all in usin second hand stuff and he hasn't had any trouble with it so far

 

Realistically on a standard engine on pump fuel and with a T34 you wont be seeing 400bhp anyway, so its all acedemic, lol

People seem to be forgetting as well that he can sell his existing parts in the prices above.

Done 2nd hand DIY doesnt need to cost over a grand IMHO by the time you sell bits off to make up for what you have bought.

 

I didnt see he wanted 400hp you would need to add another 2k and you would see over 400hp with a T38, I have just done one to this spec and it was very impressive totaly stock bottom end with a ported head and T38.

Mark

 

Andrew gallacher done mine a few years back using loom ecu ect from a 4x4 saph & i bought a new chip pectel board ice blues from harvey & a new t34..cost me about 2k fitted.

 

The subject title is pretty misleading, makes it sound like all he wants is a T34, then he goes onto mention the 400bhp later on, which is obvioulsy a lot more than just a BT conversion

 

Just to throw a spanner in the works..................

Interpro do a conversion where they keep all of the Small Turbo standard management, sensors etc, but fit a roller bearing turbo (MD??? "disco potato").............It works very well, Belle (Bristol Group) has this conversion on her Es Cos, and it is a very quick car (approx 350 BHP).

It was'nt a cheap conversion, as when she had the work done (about 4 years ago) these "new" roller bearing turbos we're about £ 2 K