who had to wait the longest for there engine to be built
04-12-2006, 07:24 PM
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who had to wait the longest for there engine to be built
as im in the process of having my second engine built, .my first engine i had built took just 1 month to build but this second one that im having done is already in to its 3rd month, so i just wondered whats the longest anyone has had to wait. 
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04-12-2006, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by kaliber cossie
dropped my kaliber engine off 5th jan 2006 still waiting should be on dyno in 2 weeks hopefully 
you did really well with your escort at gt battle now with your new box and engine.. it should really fly
05-12-2006, 10:34 AM
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I really cant understand how any company can justify having the customer wait for anything more than a couple of months. I know there are certain exceptions when things go drastically wrong, but still, why over a few months??? I mean over a year is a joke, there must be more to these stories than people let on, because if not, and if its soley down to the builder, then they dont deserve to be in business at all in my opinion.
Or am i missing something?
Or am i missing something?
05-12-2006, 10:56 AM
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I think it depends who you choose to use tbh.
I've waited 9 months for a engine before but I knew the deal when I asked for it to be built. Race cars before road cars, simple policy.
As said though some things are worth waiting for and tbh I don't mind waiting if I have to as the engines make the power and have always been reliable.
I've waited 9 months for a engine before but I knew the deal when I asked for it to be built. Race cars before road cars, simple policy.
As said though some things are worth waiting for and tbh I don't mind waiting if I have to as the engines make the power and have always been reliable.
05-12-2006, 11:28 AM
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I really cant understand how any company can justify having the customer wait for anything more than a couple of months. I know there are certain exceptions when things go drastically wrong, but still, why over a few months??? I mean over a year is a joke, there must be more to these stories than people let on, because if not, and if its soley down to the builder, then they dont deserve to be in business at all in my opinion.
Or am i missing something?
Or am i missing something?
If you are building a high-end engine its crank, pistons even Block may well be one-off. These take time to Spec & then get made. Ive waited 10 months so far & I realised it would take a long time, these things do. Also with 1 offs things can be incorrectly made or the Spec slightly modified as things develop, this has happened with mine, however I would wait 2 years because no one else can give me the service/quality that MAD does. It will be worth it, just you wait & see.
05-12-2006, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by EsCosRacer
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forgot to add mine has been just over a month so far but is worked once a week if that
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05-12-2006, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by EsCosRacer
2 yrs wait ?? my god, by that time i would have sold the shell long time ago......
In my case it takes 2 months max to get it from harvey....
Maybe MAD needs that long until their dyno is forged adequately to make the promised figures ?
michael
In my case it takes 2 months max to get it from harvey....
Maybe MAD needs that long until their dyno is forged adequately to make the promised figures ?
michael
MAD has AFAIK never fudged, edited or plain lied about any dyno numbers. Regardless, there have been officially verified times from several of his built cars that have cracked 190 mph and one which has broken 200mph on many occasions. Dyno bullshit or not, that is proven fact. I dont see other tuners cars doing this. Fact.
To insinuate MAD alter dyno figures with a view of securing more business is a serious allegation. Im sure no users of this board, or more importantly owners of passionford want to get involved in a legal wrangling so I suggest everyone use their brain before opening their mouths and putting down legally enforceable material. Libel apples to internet content also.
I understand everyone wants a hugely powerful car, why the knocking of Mark @ MAD I'm really not sure, I have always found his prices and service to be the best in the business. To my knowledge he has never taken a dig or bad mouthed anyone. Mark has a passion for fast cars and thats all he has ever tried to do, build fast cars for his customers. He certainly isnt a business man or he would charge much more for his hard work? I'd agree he isn't the fastest engine builder in the world, but when he does, he delivers results.
To all those customers of other tuners who aren't able to crack 200mph with their 600+ HP engines....please ask yourself why? Could it because *your* engine dyno figures were inaccurately measured?
05-12-2006, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by vikingboy
Originally Posted by EsCosRacer
2 yrs wait ?? my god, by that time i would have sold the shell long time ago......
In my case it takes 2 months max to get it from harvey....
Maybe MAD needs that long until their dyno is forged adequately to make the promised figures ?
michael
In my case it takes 2 months max to get it from harvey....
Maybe MAD needs that long until their dyno is forged adequately to make the promised figures ?
michael
MAD has AFAIK never fudged, edited or plain lied about any dyno numbers. Regardless, there have been officially verified times from several of his built cars that have cracked 190 mph and one which has broken 200mph on many occasions. Dyno bullshit or not, that is proven fact. I dont see other tuners cars doing this. Fact.
To insinuate MAD alter dyno figures with a view of securing more business is a serious allegation. Im sure no users of this board, or more importantly owners of passionford want to get involved in a legal wrangling so I suggest everyone use their brain before opening their mouths and putting down legally enforceable material. Libel apples to internet content also.
I understand everyone wants a hugely powerful car, why the knocking of Mark @ MAD I'm really not sure, I have always found his prices and service to be the best in the business. To my knowledge he has never taken a dig or bad mouthed anyone. Mark has a passion for fast cars and thats all he has ever tried to do, build fast cars for his customers. He certainly isnt a business man or he would charge much more for his hard work? I'd agree he isn't the fastest engine builder in the world, but when he does, he delivers results.
To all those customers of other tuners who aren't able to crack 200mph with their 600+ HP engines....please ask yourself why? Could it because *your* engine dyno figures were inaccurately measured?
05-12-2006, 05:06 PM
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MAD have my engine at present , and have had for some time , there have been several spec changes and delays along the way but I have had so called "good" engines in the car before, only to have them fail so I believe it will be well worth the wait..........but then nobody will believe the dyno figures anyway.
05-12-2006, 05:30 PM
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Jesus, here we go again !
It maybe that so far only one MAD engine has cracked this magical 200mph barrier, why ? Because Rod is a very good customer, he has put the money in and Mark has supplied the goods.
However If I'm not mistaken Rods car has not cracked 200 off gas which IMO is what gives it these huge gains. It has a excellent proven engine, but.. its not making anymore off gas power than is seen in many other cars around these days
What amount of Nitrous was Bruce Read running ? I'm guessing no where near what Rod is or was, certainly no nitrogen push system back then either. proof that maybe his car back then would of cracked that 200mph barrier if it had of not been stolen.
I'm not on the side of any tuner mentioned as I haven't used them before and tbh I don't plan to, I know what they are capable of IF the right amount of money is supplied, however I believe IF I supplied a truck load of money to ( any competent tuner ) and said I wanted 200mph up brunters he would make my wish come true, it wouldn't happen in a week but it would eventually.
2 Problems above are
a: I dont and wont ever have a truck load of money
b: I'm not that fussed about 200mph
Mark has built several awesome engines which have gone on to put down some amazing times, however not often have I seen a car that goes that well in a straight line and performs as well at going round corners, I am quite sure Mark could easily build one, it just seems his customers from PF are only interested in one thing though.
Good luck to Martin who might actually of built something that will break 200, accelerate like a rocket and still manage to hassle most things on track
It maybe that so far only one MAD engine has cracked this magical 200mph barrier, why ? Because Rod is a very good customer, he has put the money in and Mark has supplied the goods.
However If I'm not mistaken Rods car has not cracked 200 off gas which IMO is what gives it these huge gains. It has a excellent proven engine, but.. its not making anymore off gas power than is seen in many other cars around these days
What amount of Nitrous was Bruce Read running ? I'm guessing no where near what Rod is or was, certainly no nitrogen push system back then either. proof that maybe his car back then would of cracked that 200mph barrier if it had of not been stolen.
I'm not on the side of any tuner mentioned as I haven't used them before and tbh I don't plan to, I know what they are capable of IF the right amount of money is supplied, however I believe IF I supplied a truck load of money to ( any competent tuner ) and said I wanted 200mph up brunters he would make my wish come true, it wouldn't happen in a week but it would eventually.
2 Problems above are
a: I dont and wont ever have a truck load of money
b: I'm not that fussed about 200mph
Mark has built several awesome engines which have gone on to put down some amazing times, however not often have I seen a car that goes that well in a straight line and performs as well at going round corners, I am quite sure Mark could easily build one, it just seems his customers from PF are only interested in one thing though.
Good luck to Martin who might actually of built something that will break 200, accelerate like a rocket and still manage to hassle most things on track
05-12-2006, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by EsCosRacer
2 yrs wait ?? my god, by that time i would have sold the shell long time ago......
In my case it takes 2 months max to get it from harvey....
Maybe MAD needs that long until their dyno is forged adequately to make the promised figures ?
michael
In my case it takes 2 months max to get it from harvey....
Maybe MAD needs that long until their dyno is forged adequately to make the promised figures ?
michael
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05-12-2006, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Nickymi2
Originally Posted by kaliber cossie
dropped my kaliber engine off 5th jan 2006 still waiting should be on dyno in 2 weeks hopefully
you did really well with your escort at gt battle now with your new box and engine.. it should really fly
05-12-2006, 05:46 PM
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Its all down to who you want to goto at the end of the day im sure if you went to some other tuners with stuppid amouts of money and say i want to go over 200 mph it coud be done
05-12-2006, 05:50 PM
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Its all down to who you want to goto at the end of the day im sure if you went to some other tuners with stuppid amouts of money and say i want to go over 200 mph it coud be done
05-12-2006, 06:40 PM
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i have seen an engine get built from scratch and fitted and started up in 12 working hours with 2 people working on the install
this was with all the parts ready from the engeneers(reground crank etc) and all gaskets seals etc all ready for the build
the grease that gets put between all moving parts when being bult costs somthing like Ł30 must be good shit!
the only reason i can see for a engine build to take a long time is because parts are stuck/being worked on by outside companys ie geting head ported etc...
this was with all the parts ready from the engeneers(reground crank etc) and all gaskets seals etc all ready for the build
the grease that gets put between all moving parts when being bult costs somthing like Ł30
must be good shit!the only reason i can see for a engine build to take a long time is because parts are stuck/being worked on by outside companys ie geting head ported etc...
05-12-2006, 06:57 PM
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The main reason for the delays on some of the engines I biuld has been my work load also the move and my organisational skills but this is changing with my new mech and my other new man that starts in may ish,
Vikingboys engine is being biult now and there is another the same spec straight after it that only came in a week ago so this will take the more normal 6 weeks I quote,
Shitboxs one thats because I am a dick that its taken a while and now he's changed specs on me so its delayed it a little while now but I am on the case ,
Times I quote and normaly stick to stock rebiuld 2 to 3 weeks and 400hp+ 6 weeks, However these again will change with the new guy taking the work load off me
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but this is changing with my new mech and my other new man that starts in may ish,Vikingboys engine is being biult now and there is another the same spec straight after it that only came in a week ago so this will take the more normal 6 weeks I quote,
Shitboxs one thats because I am a dick
that its taken a while and now he's changed specs on me so its delayed it a little while now but I am on the case ,Times I quote and normaly stick to stock rebiuld 2 to 3 weeks and 400hp+ 6 weeks, However these again will change with the new guy taking the work load off me
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05-12-2006, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DanCossie
Originally Posted by vikingboy
Originally Posted by EsCosRacer
2 yrs wait ?? my god, by that time i would have sold the shell long time ago......
In my case it takes 2 months max to get it from harvey....
Maybe MAD needs that long until their dyno is forged adequately to make the promised figures ?
michael
In my case it takes 2 months max to get it from harvey....
Maybe MAD needs that long until their dyno is forged adequately to make the promised figures ?
michael
MAD has AFAIK never fudged, edited or plain lied about any dyno numbers. Regardless, there have been officially verified times from several of his built cars that have cracked 190 mph and one which has broken 200mph on many occasions. Dyno bullshit or not, that is proven fact. I dont see other tuners cars doing this. Fact.
To insinuate MAD alter dyno figures with a view of securing more business is a serious allegation. Im sure no users of this board, or more importantly owners of passionford want to get involved in a legal wrangling so I suggest everyone use their brain before opening their mouths and putting down legally enforceable material. Libel apples to internet content also.
I understand everyone wants a hugely powerful car, why the knocking of Mark @ MAD I'm really not sure, I have always found his prices and service to be the best in the business. To my knowledge he has never taken a dig or bad mouthed anyone. Mark has a passion for fast cars and thats all he has ever tried to do, build fast cars for his customers. He certainly isnt a business man or he would charge much more for his hard work? I'd agree he isn't the fastest engine builder in the world, but when he does, he delivers results.
To all those customers of other tuners who aren't able to crack 200mph with their 600+ HP engines....please ask yourself why? Could it because *your* engine dyno figures were inaccurately measured?
dont feel offended people I AM KIDDING....
