silverfox999

I have recently been scammed on StealBay for over £400.

I tried to buy one of those stainless Nokia's. I made sure that i paid using Paypal so that i was protected if i was scammed.

I did all the usual cross checking of feedback, made sure they were as geniune as possible. Ayway long story cut short. I was scammed not once, but flipping twice! How unlukcy.

First time was a bit wierd. Phone line cut, incorrect address listed etc etc. Thought no problem, Ebay (sorry StealBay) and paypal will sort it out.

Second time (about a week later!) i won another auction for the same phone. I paid again using Paypal (thinking this was safe and secure) only for StealBay to serve me with a TKO notice stating that the users account had been accessed fraudulently and that they had closed it down.. flippin great. I couldnt access any of his details or zip.

StealBay washed there hands completely of both cases, so i thought fine, Paypal will pick up the fraud issues.

Here comes the free advice.

Paypal will refund you in full, only IF the users account has the money in it. If it is empty there is a max limit of £120. They then kindly take out £15 for an 'admin fee'. Thanks for that.

So for my first scam i got back £105 - lost £100 there.

I got the same back for the second scam - no im down by over £200

TIP: Ensure that you clear out your paypal account and MAKE sure that you pay for any high value goods soley off your credit card.

Unfortunately i paid for the first phone with credit in my paypal account. I have no way of trying to get back the balance past £105.

The second time i had an empty paypal account, so it was paid via my credit card.

I reported the fraud to Citi card who are dealing with it and have credited me the balance. So now im back to £100 down.

So remember, empty your payapl account regularily and note that paypal will only protect you up to £120 less £15.

Ensure you do all your checks beforehand. I now call these fools beforehand, and get landlines and addresses and try and check them out.

Dont get scammed by these robbin crooks!

richard_syko

tregmatt

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dave cos4x4

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morcheen

e-bay and paypal sound like the scammers to me

S2martin

Anything over £100 on ebay now i only bid/buy if i can collect it sorts of limits how far i can go i guess but it just stops me getting knocked

Anything under like you said paypal will cover anyway

KregRS

Try searching Paypal on Google and look at the horror story sites regarding them, usually american but still worth reading.

silverfox999

Spot on.

Ebay are simply useless - they dont want to know in the slightest. Wouldnt release any details to me. I have reported the first one to the old bill and hopefully they will release any detials and prosecute.

Paypal are also washing their hands and have craftily reduced there liabilty down. I always thought i was protected by using paypal for the ful lamount. but sadly not.

I wil lstill use ebay, but will by more cautious in future

Alg1k

iTrader: (2)

happened to me last week
Paypal are fucking usless !!!!

gurnE

This is why you should always fund paypal purchases via a credit card rather than bank transfer or debit card.

The latter two don't have the protection of a credit card afforded under the consumer credit act.

That's why paypal have that extra page with those pathetic reasons why you should use a bank transfer.

xr2i-carl

sorry to hear you got 'done' mate

hope you get it sorted soon

zedin

sorry to hear that happenned but its like they dont even care and
you would think paypal having so many members would make them put some sort of protection system in

silverfox999

I am wondering whether they dropped their limit because so many people are getting screwed with StealBay (tm).

I would love to know how it stands under this consumer credit act. I suppose that Paypal dont lend you the money and that is their cop out - hence leaving the credit cards people to pick up pieces.

Remember, clear our your paypal accounts and pay solely with credit!!! dont get caught!

Alvyn

iTrader: (1)

I'm pretty much that Ebay bought Paypal out last year!

THEY ARE JUST AS BAD AS THE ROBBERS IN MY EYES!

B19LRW

im down £450 atm due to paypal... 300 for 2 rear b eams i sold.. and the buyer collected and then 'claimed' he did not recieve!!! cunt.

£150 due to some scammer saying he did not receive the goods... shame Royal mail have got his signature one the special delivery ticket!!

my other half does ebay for a living, and her account gets locked at least 3 times a year due to paypal screw ups!

i have just sent em a bill for £37 on phone calls i have made to em ( 0870) as im fucke if im paying it!!

turbo.jon

Bloody egay ive just had email from someone who bought some lights off me over a month ago there now trying to say there damaged and have put a claim in on paypal the bloody lights were brand new bit funny they leave it a month before saying they must be skint for xmas ive got near 500 feedback they have 5 but bet paypal give them money back so im out pocket its getting a bloody joke on there now

B19LRW

has he put a goods not as described in?? as he will get nowhere... as longas ur verified, you ok.

Paypal only concern themselves with Non delivery

silverfox999

I didnt relise there was as many people getting scammed.

Trouble is it seems to be genuine people getting screwed.

I am now emailing for landlines and addresses. if they say no, they i dont want to trade.

If i were buying a car i would what chapter and verse on the details before i even bothered going to see them.

Egay - i like that. Not as good as my StealBay (tm) though... or GreedBay (r).

Robbin Barstewards!

turbo.jon

Yes thats what they have put so fingers crossed it goes my way if not i will not be happy

morto

sorry to here that, ive used ebay and paypal for loads of things and fingers crossed never been ripped off.. including buying a new turbo from the u.s.a that got here in just a few days and i cud track it all the way

andy