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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 09:55 AM
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and its got a std cover, engine spec in my sig
ive had it in over 2 years now, done 9k miles, driven every day, countless launches.
what kind experience have others had? im hoping just to get the flywheel skimmed and not find that the clutch needs changing too
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 09:58 AM
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no idea on 4 paddle but i have had an alcon 6 paddle in my 3dr for over 3 years and that has only just started to slip. Taken plenty of abuse and several track days.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 09:59 AM
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i thaught paddle clutches would be no use for every day use...

just something ive heard so its not by experience?
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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NO NO NO NO NO!!!

Gav, there is no way that you will get away with skimming the flywheel and not changing the clutch. Especially not the way you drive it!!

Just for a quick lesson in how clutches work. The clutch friction plate grips onto the flywheel while the engine is driving the transmission. During the lifespan of a clutch, it will naturally develop its own wear characteristics, the flywheel will do the same. Perhaps it will develop ridges or grooves.

When you renew the clutch, the new flat surface won't contact 100% of the flywheel surface due to high spots and therefore won't achieve good grip and will therefore slip. This is why paddle clutches don't last very long on flywheels that haven't been refaced.

This is the same if you skim the flywheel and dont renew the clutch.

Also, in my experiece, once you remove a clutch and actually look at it, even after only a few months of usage, the chances of you deciding to refit it are slim.

Why would you want to skim your flywheel anyway at this time?
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 10:08 AM
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hi christian
im enquiring on changing my box, and therefore as its out, i thought i might aswell skim the flywheel too, but think ill leave it alone then?
its not slipping, just thought its like maintenance to skim a flywheel every so often when using a 4 paddle. i get a grinding noise sometimes when pulling away, especially in reverse. if thats normal, ill leave everything as it is
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by GavStyli
hi christian
im enquiring on changing my box, and therefore as its out, i thought i might aswell skim the flywheel too, but think ill leave it alone then?
its not slipping, just thought its like maintenance to skim a flywheel every so often when using a 4 paddle. i get a grinding noise sometimes when pulling away, especially in reverse. if thats normal, ill leave everything as it is
When we changed my gearbox, I could see that my clutch is blue, so I left it well alone! You're best to do the same. It's a gamble, if you leave it alone, it might go another 12 months, if you disturb it, it might then fail 2 weeks later!

It's a bit like changing brake pads. If your discs are ridged from wear and you fit new pads, they could end up feeling worse than the ones you removed.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Gav, there is no way that you will get away with skimming the flywheel and not changing the clutch. Especially not the way you drive it!!
whats thats supposed to mean shorty?

ill give clutch an inspection when the box comes out then, hope all will be fine. thanks for the advise
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Gav, there is no way that you will get away with skimming the flywheel and not changing the clutch. Especially not the way you drive it!!
whats thats supposed to mean shorty?

ill give clutch an inspection when the box comes out then, hope all will be fine. thanks for the advise
Practically by your own admission, you drive it like you stole it.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 10:29 AM
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i heard he drives like a girl,,,,,,,,,, rides the clutch with his heals ect


oh and gav whats that ap like where you live too as you live almost on a mountain with traffic jams so that cant help with all them hill starts


glad you aint sold the car yet though as it is a nice motor
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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i actually drive like an old git unless im at the pod

paddles fine, just dont be too gentle with it and pull away quicker than normal! and it wont judder
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by GavStyli
and its got a std cover, engine spec in my sig
ive had it in over 2 years now, done 9k miles, driven every day, countless launches.
what kind experience have others had? im hoping just to get the flywheel skimmed and not find that the clutch needs changing too
25000 miles everyday driving and loads of launches whenn i changed it there was still some life left.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 08:47 PM
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sooooooo it's perfectly fine to use a standard cover when using a 4 paddle clutch?
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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my 4 paddle has standard cover and the flywheel was skimmed when it was out. shudders a bit when you pull away so not much fun in traffic but has taken some serious abuse over 5k miles
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