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Old 20-12-2006, 03:22 PM
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Old 20-12-2006, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SECS
Gareth,

I wrote a program last week for a PLC that sequences and flashes 10 sets
or christmas lights for our office reception.

btw, what PLC you use?
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Originally Posted by SECS
Dave,
You forgot about the 256k of interpreter code in the system that is pre
written for the lazy ass programmers.

true,

we do enter it in assembber language, not machine code, the assembler is pre loaded,

makes it faster for us lazy arses
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
Originally Posted by SECS
Gareth,

I wrote a program last week for a PLC that sequences and flashes 10 sets
or christmas lights for our office reception.

btw, what PLC you use?
I used a Mitsubishi FX for the tree lights.

I have experience with AB, Siemens, Texas, Mitsubishi, Modicon, GEM,
Telemecanique..... etc...
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fairly easy to do using an FX,

that was one of our jobs when we were apprentices, to write the xmas tree flashing program using a FX each year,

used some sort of shift register IIRC...? it s while since ive done any ladder

i use RACL / CARE now as thats all that we can program our stuff with
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Ladders ok for beginners

I use the new IEC 1131 block language for PLC's as thats now a european
standard that most customers demand and most PLC manufacturers offer
that except AB at the moment. The yanks are behind the times
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ah, seem to remember covering that at uni,

does that allow you to use sequential function blocks aswell as ladder ?

does the same as the CARE software we use (but just not IEC1131 compliant)
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Yes it does cover SFC and ladder (to a limit).

Give me a microprocessor circuit over a PLC anyday.....
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anyway...

what about this new monitor - do you have a couple built up that need beta testing.? by me

can it datalog aswell?
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Dave,

I do have 4 new ones built up.

Does your car have a pectel data stream output on P8 ?

If so, I will let you have a unit to evaluate for a few weeks after xmas....

I need an independant person to find the bugs for me and give an
unbiased opinion and suggestions to make it better.


And yes, it does data log
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Originally Posted by SECS
Dave,

I do have 4 new ones built up.

Does your car have a pectel data stream output on P8 ?

If so, I will let you have a unit to evaluate for a few weeks after xmas....

I need an independant person to find the bugs for me and give an
unbiased opinion and suggestions to make it better.


And yes, it does data log
My 8 injec p8 does

Up to you as i like testing things but i give a honest answer !!

AND HAVE COLLINS PECTEL ATM !!!
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its not got pectel comms at the moment, but i will be sending my chip and ecu to stu for modding quite soon

so yes, after xmas, an unbiased trial would be welcome

edited to ask:

is that the single DIN size monitor ?
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i love ladder
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Originally Posted by SECS
Dave,

I do have 4 new ones built up.

Does your car have a pectel data stream output on P8 ?

If so, I will let you have a unit to evaluate for a few weeks after xmas....

I need an independant person to find the bugs for me and give an
unbiased opinion and suggestions to make it better.


And yes, it does data log
I will quite happily "test" one also.... I'm currently runing a SECS and Pectel monitor so could be a good comparison??? presumably you will be able to make it so it plugs straight onto my Pectel loom for ease???
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You can stuff your AB PLCs!! IMO Nexus series is where it's at!!! Reliable? Hell no!!! Unless you're relying on it to break!! I would say thank god they became obsolete but that just makes my life harder as we still have about 30 running existing applications!!!

I like Omron gear though. I can get on quite well with CXP and the stuff seems bomb proof.

So are we ever likely to see a new generation SECS monitor then Simon? Maybe even one that will work with Pectel's own range of ECUs?
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Hi guys,

making my own monitor at the moment with 2 x 28x1 picaxes - does anyone have the pectel stack data format?

I guess it is 19200 (8,1,none) baud - but hyperterminal does not give me much - do I have to 'poll' it with some special char? Pectel t2 btw. Shouldn't it just stream?

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Originally Posted by LINCOLN
Hi guys,

making my own monitor at the moment with 2 x 28x1 picaxes - does anyone have the pectel stack data format?

I guess it is 19200 (8,1,none) baud - but hyperterminal does not give me much - do I have to 'poll' it with some special char? Pectel t2 btw. Shouldn't it just stream?
The Pectel T2 ECU has a published (by pectel) a "telemetry" protocol.
I.E. a protocol that is read only.

You need to be a customer of Pectels or have a login to thier secure site
and you should be able to download a document with the protocol information.
If not, give them a call as they are usually helpfull.

(I dont have this myself so cant help you)

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Done that cannot find the info - on the phone to then now.

Thanks.
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