Monitors - SECS v PECTEL v COLLINS
31-10-2006, 02:39 PM
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Monitors - SECS v PECTEL v COLLINS
Conparision needed
between a SECS Monitor & a PECTEL one...
Apart from the prices etc, how about functions, ease of use etc.
Minus to me for the pectel one would be they're few and far between..........so command rocking horse shite prices.
Minus for the SECS would be the start up sensor check function (ign on).
You're views.
Ps This isnt a Simon slagging post either, anybody wanting to do so can fuck off!
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between a SECS Monitor & a PECTEL one...
Apart from the prices etc, how about functions, ease of use etc.
Minus to me for the pectel one would be they're few and far between..........so command rocking horse shite prices.
Minus for the SECS would be the start up sensor check function (ign on).
You're views.
Ps This isnt a Simon slagging post either, anybody wanting to do so can fuck off!
Ta
31-10-2006, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by the original
They're good at different things so i use both.
slightly prefer the pectel one but it did cost twice as much.
slightly prefer the pectel one but it did cost twice as much.
31-10-2006, 03:18 PM
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secs easier to use
Pectel more reliable readings it seem
Pectel displays what the ecu sees
SECS displays what the ecu should be seeing if there's no fault with the ecu plug/ecu
secs alarms user configurable
Pectel ones aren't unless you very clever
Modded pectels with the flashing warning lights are better than standard
Sometimes hard to see alarms on secs if you're on track
although with both you could wire an audible warning in easily
pectel has
ign angle
ign pulse duration
many have egt
peak hold only on some.
logging
oil/fuel pressure on some
Motorsport/wrc credentials?
Secs has
cheaper to buy
blue screen sometimes available
easy to set startup message
peak hold on most stuff
no ecu mods necessary & fits L1 to p8
also, collins= same as pectel for almost all intents and purposes yet readily available
i expect i will be corrected on something...
Pectel more reliable readings it seem
Pectel displays what the ecu sees
SECS displays what the ecu should be seeing if there's no fault with the ecu plug/ecu
secs alarms user configurable
Pectel ones aren't unless you very clever
Modded pectels with the flashing warning lights are better than standard
Sometimes hard to see alarms on secs if you're on track
although with both you could wire an audible warning in easily
pectel has
ign angle
ign pulse duration
many have egt
peak hold only on some.
logging
oil/fuel pressure on some
Motorsport/wrc credentials?
Secs has
cheaper to buy
blue screen sometimes available
easy to set startup message
peak hold on most stuff
no ecu mods necessary & fits L1 to p8
also, collins= same as pectel for almost all intents and purposes yet readily available
i expect i will be corrected on something...
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31-10-2006, 03:57 PM
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Re: Monitors - SECS v PECTEL v COLLINS
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by Franco
Minus for the SECS would be the start up sensor check function (ign on).
I was told this last night
31-10-2006, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Franco
So in essence then the Collins would be another good buying option.
Anybody got any feedback on the collins monitor?
Anybody got any feedback on the collins monitor?
looks PONY!
31-10-2006, 07:00 PM
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i use a SEC monitor,
and really like the warnings setting and the shift light.
i've got a warning light strap'd to my tacho, and its easierly noticed even on a trackday.
The main down side, is its not design'd to run with a 5 bar map sensor, so dont read the boost correctly.
As for Pectel monitor, i do like the options of trimming of the ign and fueling.
and really like the warnings setting and the shift light.
i've got a warning light strap'd to my tacho, and its easierly noticed even on a trackday.
The main down side, is its not design'd to run with a 5 bar map sensor, so dont read the boost correctly.
As for Pectel monitor, i do like the options of trimming of the ign and fueling.
31-10-2006, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by fiesta cossie
i use a SEC monitor,
and really like the warnings setting and the shift light.
i've got a warning light strap'd to my tacho, and its easierly noticed even on a trackday.
The main down side, is its not design'd to run with a 5 bar map sensor, so dont read the boost correctly.
As for Pectel monitor, i do like the options of trimming of the ign and fueling.
and really like the warnings setting and the shift light.
i've got a warning light strap'd to my tacho, and its easierly noticed even on a trackday.
The main down side, is its not design'd to run with a 5 bar map sensor, so dont read the boost correctly.
As for Pectel monitor, i do like the options of trimming of the ign and fueling.
Go for the collins Pro. Order today....delivered tomorow......nice and shiny and new.
It shows:
Revs
Map Sensor
Ignition
Water Temp
Air Charge Temp
Volts
Throttle Position %
Injector Opening Time
Oil Pressure
Lampda Reading
Fault Detection
Can Adjust:
Fuel
Ignition
Ive used one for a year now and no problems.
You DONT need the collins board or chip either to run it.
Hope that helps.
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Originally Posted by Paul Ripley
The only Pectel monitor with trims (red and green dials IIRC) was Ahmeds one he uses
31-10-2006, 11:00 PM
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I've worked with them all, Pectel is the best, but yes hard to find and getting tired, I have one here that needs a new board due to delamination thru corrosion. New board is Ł300 !!! Keep em dry boys
I can supply the collins monitor which is a very good replacement for a pectel. About Ł300 plus the VAT in standard form. About Ł400 for the adjustable version.
Secs is a good monitor too but not as easy to install, but easier on the pocket.
I can supply the collins monitor which is a very good replacement for a pectel. About Ł300 plus the VAT in standard form. About Ł400 for the adjustable version.
Secs is a good monitor too but not as easy to install, but easier on the pocket.
31-10-2006, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by polly_x
Originally Posted by Paul Ripley
The only Pectel monitor with trims (red and green dials IIRC) was Ahmeds one he uses
I had the oppertunity to buy one back about 4yrs ago when i had my cossie.
Jus dont see that shit anymore tho.
01-11-2006, 06:28 AM
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Sod that trimming lark................ I'll leave that sort of stuff to Ahmed! 
Just want to make sure i'm doing my very best for my engine, sounds like its deffo a toss up between the collins & SECS one then............ Hmmmm
Just want to make sure i'm doing my very best for my engine, sounds like its deffo a toss up between the collins & SECS one then............ Hmmmm
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Originally Posted by Franco
Sod that trimming lark................ I'll leave that sort of stuff to Ahmed!
Just want to make sure i'm doing my very best for my engine, sounds like its deffo a toss up between the collins & SECS one then............ Hmmmm
Just want to make sure i'm doing my very best for my engine, sounds like its deffo a toss up between the collins & SECS one then............ Hmmmm
01-11-2006, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by polly_x
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You DONT need the collins board or chip either to run it.
Hope that helps.
You DONT need the collins board or chip either to run it.
Hope that helps.
my pectel works with standard babyboard too
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Franco,
For the record, the SECS monitor checks **ALL sensors at ALL times.
It was designed to be a cheap diagnostic tool. Nothing more nothing less.
** ALL sensors meaning the ones it was designed to check which does
include everything except the crank and phase sensors.
If these stop working your car wont run anyway. !
For the record, the SECS monitor checks **ALL sensors at ALL times.
It was designed to be a cheap diagnostic tool. Nothing more nothing less.
** ALL sensors meaning the ones it was designed to check which does
include everything except the crank and phase sensors.
If these stop working your car wont run anyway. !
01-11-2006, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Andreas
Originally Posted by Franco
Sod that trimming lark................ I'll leave that sort of stuff to Ahmed!
Just want to make sure i'm doing my very best for my engine, sounds like its deffo a toss up between the collins & SECS one then............ Hmmmm
Just want to make sure i'm doing my very best for my engine, sounds like its deffo a toss up between the collins & SECS one then............ Hmmmm
Originally Posted by gingeRS
anyone got a picture of the collins monitor?
what does the display look like?
what does the display look like?
Ditto what Ginge said!
Originally Posted by SECS
Franco,
For the record, the SECS monitor checks **ALL sensors at ALL times.
It was designed to be a cheap diagnostic tool. Nothing more nothing less.
** ALL sensors meaning the ones it was designed to check which does
include everything except the crank and phase sensors.
If these stop working your car wont run anyway. !
For the record, the SECS monitor checks **ALL sensors at ALL times.
It was designed to be a cheap diagnostic tool. Nothing more nothing less.
** ALL sensors meaning the ones it was designed to check which does
include everything except the crank and phase sensors.
If these stop working your car wont run anyway. !
Thanks for that Simon, if anything i feel the SECS might edge it just on price - no real bad press for these (apart from the haters!).
01-11-2006, 07:58 AM
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Thought about that Stu, but i feel a smaller dash mounted monitor would be better suited to my needs..................
Sod having a laptop smashing off the A pillars, on quiet B roads!
Sod having a laptop smashing off the A pillars, on quiet B roads!
01-11-2006, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Franco
Originally Posted by gingeRS
anyone got a picture of the collins monitor?
what does the display look like?
what does the display look like?
Nice bit of kit, though I'm sure Sue told me they do need to mod your ECU to run it.
I went for the IAW Monitor software instead. You can use it as a datalogger too.
01-11-2006, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Franco
Thought about that Stu, but i feel a smaller dash mounted monitor would be better suited to my needs..................
Sod having a laptop smashing off the A pillars, on quiet B roads!
Sod having a laptop smashing off the A pillars, on quiet B roads!
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01-11-2006, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Franco
Thought about that Stu, but i feel a smaller dash mounted monitor would be better suited to my needs..................
Sod having a laptop smashing off the A pillars, on quiet B roads!
Sod having a laptop smashing off the A pillars, on quiet B roads!
Your supposed to use them when you DO have problems!!
Have a bit of trust in your tuner man.
01-11-2006, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by Franco
Thought about that Stu, but i feel a smaller dash mounted monitor would be better suited to my needs..................
Sod having a laptop smashing off the A pillars, on quiet B roads!
Sod having a laptop smashing off the A pillars, on quiet B roads!
.We'll talk about that....
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by Franco
Thought about that Stu, but i feel a smaller dash mounted monitor would be better suited to my needs..................
Sod having a laptop smashing off the A pillars, on quiet B roads!
Sod having a laptop smashing off the A pillars, on quiet B roads!
Your supposed to use them when you DO have problems!!
Have a bit of trust in your tuner man.
PLEASE..................when i bought the cos, i get handed the keys, paperwork............ And a large dollop of Paranoia!!!
01-11-2006, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Franco
Sod that trimming lark................ I'll leave that sort of stuff to Ahmed!
Just want to make sure i'm doing my very best for my engine, sounds like its deffo a toss up between the collins & SECS one then............ Hmmmm
Just want to make sure i'm doing my very best for my engine, sounds like its deffo a toss up between the collins & SECS one then............ Hmmmm
I really like the SECS one actually.
I was lucky to have on of the very first available, and found it to be a spot on bit of kit......
01-11-2006, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
You could always buy some software thats better than them ALL for your laptop as another option. 
I had the secs was ok
Got the pectel and yes there great BUT SELLING IT
GOING to get the collins as warrenty and does the pectel stuff and cash spare for the pectel !!!