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Old 12-10-2006, 02:51 PM
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Hello all,

Any of you up for a bit of testing for me please ?

I have just down a major reworking of the new windows version software
regarding the inter PC/ECU communications and need feed back from
users.

If you try this out, I need to know the following....

1) What make PC you are using. (Or the processor type and speed)
2) What version of windows you are using ?
3) What type of com port you are using. (USB/ Proper com port etc...)
4) Did the program go online successfully or not ? (report any error messages)
5) Your ecu serial number ?

I know I did this a few months back but the program has changed much
internally to allow new wi-fi and internet features to be included at a later
date so needs to be tested again.

The program is a test version and only contains one file at present to
make the installation and test easier for you. Because of this, some of the
EDIT menus are shown but will not work properly so no need to test them.

I just need to know that the ecu goes online and displays all live data
correctly.

All you need to do is down load the zip file from the link below into any
folder you desire and unzip it then run the file "s8win.exe".

The file has been virus scanned before I uploaded it.

link: http://www.s8ecu.co.uk/s8test.zip


Hopefully, if all the tests go well I will release the full version software
before christmas and of course this will be a free upgrade to anyone with
an S8 and to anyone who just wishes to have a look.

You may notice some extra menus in the software....

If you have any suggestions for new features or modifications, I will be
glad to discuss them.

Sorry for the delay in this but software development takes time and I do
work full time aswell.

Thanks

Old 12-10-2006, 03:02 PM
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simon what about us people too poor to buy a pc and only own a mac laptop





LIKE ME
Old 12-10-2006, 03:04 PM
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maybe i can use mine after 2 years
lucky i got the saff as the RS500 was done on the P8 !!
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RS500/364,

I can hardly be held responsible for you or your tuners lack of understanding
of a technical and potentially complex product.

And lets face it, Your tuner has much to lose if it becomes a success

Even Phil (Boschman) managed to use the one he had by himself

(No Diss to Phil intended)


b19bal,

Get a pc emulator program
Program will work but I very much doubt it will talk to an ecu.

OR

Buy a proper computer

(I know macs are technically better before anyone says otherwise)
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maybe if pepole turned up when they said they would
or sent the base maps !!
mind you the base maps would not work if the S8ECU 1st batch were not modifided would they !!
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i would lvoe to help you out simon but my friends car which is running the s8 i map is off the road
Old 12-10-2006, 03:28 PM
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RS500/364,

If its your intention to rake up sh*t for me at any cost then fine, start
another thread and do it there please.

FYI. base maps are just that. A starting point.
Tuning ability is not supplied with the product and must be supplied
by the owner

I am trying to support EXISTING customers even though I dont sell the
ecu's anymore myself and I have no legal duty to do so but I am.
Its not me you will be hurting it will be them if you turn this into yet
another war that just repeats past history.

Be happy for others, that I am making the effort as believe it or not
there are 1 or 2 happy customers.



GARETH T,

Thanks anyway.
Doesnt require car to be running to try it
Old 12-10-2006, 03:36 PM
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Ok, I give up. I will remove the link from the website right now.
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Dave i ant bothered about the ecu it worked just as well as the doorstop before the Ł2k it cost thought fuck ups
its just now i have it in a start of MANUFACTURING MISTAKE BEING REPAIRED OR UPDATED (TERM TO MAKE IT SOUND BETTER )
I WOULD LIKE TO PUT IT IN THE SAFF BECAUSE I WILL BE GETTING RID OF THE CAR ecu and loads of crap soon !

chip i am sure will help with a base or map simon with rant on AHMEDs fault my fault
I DIDNT DESIGN IT AND DIDNT NEED TO UPDATE IT SO THINK ABOUT IT !!
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RS500/364,

I wish I understood exactly what you just said above.????????




Ok, as you have re-opened the can of worms again....

You bought the S8 on 19/11/2004

Nearly a year later, you call me to say there was issues but we couldnt
sort them out over the phone.
This could have been anything, the ecu, your car etc....

I requested you send it back to be checked over which you didnt do.

Anyway, earlier THIS YEAR (march IIRC) nearly 4 to 5 months later, you
started a slagging off post aimed at me saying I hadnt helped you when it
was in fact yourself who wouldnt help yourself by not returning the unit
for checking/upgrading when asked to do so.

I cannot be held responsible for your lack of action and the fact it took you
over a year to even try the ecu out in the first place and at least 16 months
before I had the unit back to check myself.

The ecu was well out of warranty and after much bickering on this site,
you eventually returned the unit to me for a FOC out of waranty checkup.
I did this and returned it to you as promised.

If YOU or YOUR TUNER is unable to listen to simple instructions or fail
to act on my advice then how can I be held responsible.

ECU's are NOT simple products, It is a plug and play unit but still needs
skill and experience to set up a car. This is not supplied beleive it or not.
Base maps are provided as a starting point. Engine spec/set ups all
differ in various ways.

Other tuners/non proffesionals have managed ok


Anyway, finally fed up of trying to help people on this site it gets me
nowhere and I guess trying to make amends for my past issues
means nothing.
Especially when others on here that have allegidely (sp) done far worse
than I ever did.

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Simon,
PM me the link please!! I have a couple of laptops in different configs and connection methods at hand!!
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Originally Posted by SECS
Anyway, finally fed up of trying to help people on this site it gets me
nowhere and I guess trying to make amends for my past issues
means nothing.
Especially when others on here that have allegidely (sp) done far worse
than I ever did.

good on you for trying simon ....
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i can try if youu want Simon.
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answer 2 questions
1 did the ecu work from new or did you need to need to modify it
2 did you not just say i informed you within the 1st year
the ecu was in romford and i am in chessington of course there would be a delay i mean i work till 4 in the morning unlike some pepole !!
so even so am seven hour behind most pepole !!
anyway as far as i know it is sorted NEVER BEEN USED AND JUST NEEDS TO BE I WILL SAY NO MORE UNLESS YOU WANT A SLAG POST
AND I COULD HAVE HAD YOU BANNED FROM HERE YOU LET ME DOWN MORE THAN 5 TIMES
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All

I dont know about anybody else, but I am getting really pissed off at people sniping at SECS every time he posts on the subject of the ECU.

For those of us that are still using them, you are just fucking it up for the rest of us.

I understand that people may have gripes, but if you are not happy, then deal with it by all means, but stop fucking up the continued development for the rest of us. None of the comments are exactly original.

I dont care who he has let down. I dont care why. I know that this is not a very charitable attitude, but yet again it has led to something positive being turned into something negative!!!!

FFS Can somebody stop this happening every time SECS offers to develop the ECU

It is entirely possible that without these boring sniped comments that have been regurgitated over and over again Simon might be prepared to do the software development.

Apologies if this email has pissed these complainees off, but that is simply how I feel. Perhaps if bygones are left as bygones, we can work towards the future.

JJ
Old 13-10-2006, 05:12 PM
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RS500/364,

I explained above and a few months ago.


Originally Posted by RS500/364
1 did the ecu work from new or did you need to need to modify it
It always worked but when you returned it, I upgraded the software to
add extra features./improvements.


Originally Posted by RS500/364
2 did you not just say i informed you within the 1st year
the ecu was in romford and i am in chessington of course there would be a delay i mean i work till 4 in the morning unlike some pepole !!
so even so am seven hour behind most pepole !!
I would hardly call about 4 months a small delay. I have been crucified
by others for being a few days late let alone YOU delaying ME by that
large amount of time.

Originally Posted by RS500/364
anyway as far as i know it is sorted NEVER BEEN USED AND JUST NEEDS TO BE I WILL SAY NO MORE UNLESS YOU WANT A SLAG POST
As far as I know, you have had it over 16 months before I saw it returned.
(and have postal proof of this).
Now, for all I know what has or has not happened in all that time ?
You became abusive to me for no reason even after I offered to check
out things for you after YOU caused all the delays in the first place.


Originally Posted by RS500/364
I WILL SAY NO MORE UNLESS YOU WANT A SLAG POST
AND I COULD HAVE HAD YOU BANNED FROM HERE YOU LET ME DOWN MORE THAN 5 TIMES
Say what you like, you have said it all before a few months ago and yet
again dragged it all up on this thread for no reason even though its
all been sorted.
After YOU eventually sent it back to me for checking after verbally abusing
me I still sorted it out (and found nothing wrong) then upgraded it free of
charge, then sent it back to you at my own expense yet you still
are stirriing up old news.

If you think you can get me banned, what are you waiting for

I started this thread as I am committed for my own personal reasons and
no other to improve my product design even though I am NOT directly
trading anymore.

Just shut the f*ck up and get off this thread and stop spoiling it so the
people who are interested can get on without the usual dumb ass internet
bickering.

Thankyou.

==================================================


For those still interested, the link is....

http://www.s8ecu.co.uk/s8test.zip
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I only ever stated facts
you however can not accept you done anything wrong !!
i even still have texts you sent to me about things shall we carry on on not ?
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Originally Posted by JjCoDeX75
All

I dont know about anybody else, but I am getting really pissed off at people sniping at SECS every time he posts on the subject of the ECU.

For those of us that are still using them, you are just fucking it up for the rest of us.

I understand that people may have gripes, but if you are not happy, then deal with it by all means, but stop fucking up the continued development for the rest of us. None of the comments are exactly original.

I dont care who he has let down. I dont care why. I know that this is not a very charitable attitude, but yet again it has led to something positive being turned into something negative!!!!

FFS Can somebody stop this happening every time SECS offers to develop the ECU

It is entirely possible that without these boring sniped comments that have been regurgitated over and over again Simon might be prepared to do the software development.

Apologies if this email has pissed these complainees off, but that is simply how I feel. Perhaps if bygones are left as bygones, we can work towards the future.

JJ
Very well said
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CANT YOU READ. - Oops, left my caps lock on.

The only thing I did wrong in your case was to sell a product to you that
you couldnt understand. Thats my fault

Its all sorted now yet you still want to moan, even after starting a thread
a few 0onths ago and yet again starting on here.


Youve said your bit now go and get a life PLEASE - your own

If you can get me banned - DO IT - Just get off MY thread please.
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Originally Posted by SECS
CANT YOU READ. - Oops, left my caps lock on.

The only thing I did wrong in your case was to sell a product to you that
you couldnt understand. Thats all my fault

Its all sorted yet you still want to moan, even after starting a thread a few
months ago and yet again starting on here.

Get a life PLEASE.

If you can get me banned - DO IT - Just get off MY thread please.
The only reson i didnt and do not understand is one
IT WAS BROUGHT FOR AND TO HAVE AHMED MAP IT ON MY CAR
I HAVE NEVER TRIED THE THING SO HOW WOULD I KNOW A THING ABOUT IT
and by the way i do know about hex file and more
i have a emulator here with other products made by microchip !!!!
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Originally Posted by RS500/364
Originally Posted by SECS
CANT YOU READ. - Oops, left my caps lock on.

The only thing I did wrong in your case was to sell a product to you that
you couldnt understand. Thats all my fault

Its all sorted yet you still want to moan, even after starting a thread a few
months ago and yet again starting on here.

Get a life PLEASE.

If you can get me banned - DO IT - Just get off MY thread please.
The only reson i didnt and do not understand is one
IT WAS BROUGHT FOR AND TO HAVE AHMED MAP IT ON MY CAR
I HAVE NEVER TRIED THE THING SO HOW WOULD I KNOW A THING ABOUT IT
and by the way i do know about hex file and more
i have a emulator here with other products made by microchip !!!!
I have to say you are like a fucking broken record mate.
SECS is trying to help peeps using s8, if you aint who gives a fuck.
lifes too short mate.
chill
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Originally Posted by scottbrown
Originally Posted by RS500/364
Originally Posted by SECS
CANT YOU READ. - Oops, left my caps lock on.

The only thing I did wrong in your case was to sell a product to you that
you couldnt understand. Thats all my fault

Its all sorted yet you still want to moan, even after starting a thread a few
months ago and yet again starting on here.

Get a life PLEASE.

If you can get me banned - DO IT - Just get off MY thread please.
The only reson i didnt and do not understand is one
IT WAS BROUGHT FOR AND TO HAVE AHMED MAP IT ON MY CAR
I HAVE NEVER TRIED THE THING SO HOW WOULD I KNOW A THING ABOUT IT
and by the way i do know about hex file and more
i have a emulator here with other products made by microchip !!!!
I have to say you are like a fucking broken record mate.
SECS is trying to help peeps using s8, if you aint who gives a fuck.
lifes too short mate.
chill
? for you if someone told you the product was good but the service was shit then you brought it and had to find out its true you would have been warned and as you have read this you have been warned !!!
IF YOU DONT CARE IT IS UP TO YOU !!
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RS500/364,

How many times do you need to repeat yourself ???

You are obviously cleverer than myself with electronics if you think
"Microchip PICS" and having an emulator make you look good.


You can watch DVD's and the TV but can you explain precisely how they work ?

If you know about hex files, name some types of them and then explain
to me the INTEL HEX FORMAT and header structure to me in your own
words and not googled.

Otherwise, PLEASE, just get off this thread.
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Originally Posted by SECS
RS500/364,

You are obviously cleverer than myself with electronics if you think
"Microchip PICS" and having an emulator make you look good.

I NEVER SAID I WAS BETTER JUST SAID I HAD SOME STUFF OKIf you know about hex files, name some types of them and then explain
to me the INTEL HEX FORMAT and header structure to me in your own
words and not googled.

well a lot of times when i did the satellite the were the pic 16c84 card followed by 16f84
then the eeprom was added to the cards
then replaced by the the 16 programme once need i go on
sky version ten card was hacked by a 16 f84 +eeprom c16 version need i go on !!


Otherwise, PLEASE, just get off this thread.
I WOULD SAY MORE BUT AM OFF TO WORK SEE YOU
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I bow down to your superior knowledge

Actually, I know quite a bit about the "blackdisk" and analog TV hacking
and the people/technology used aswell.

Any idiot could down load file soff the net an program chips but surely
that isnt what you meant - was it ?

How did you get round the type 07 smart cards extra XOR table
encryption on the suscription channels ?

Was the protocol checksum used as part of the line hashing algorithm
or was the 256 cut points used for scrambling limited by the same
2 second update time on all channels using cyclic redunancy of a
16 bit random seed still ?

Let me know this could turn out to be a good topic after all
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right simon ill pop around this weekend if he's in

also i pm'ed you asking why i couldnt see some of the options,, i guess i should of read the thread

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Thanks Gareth. Your like me, never read the manual till I have too
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Cheers Simon, will have a test for ya!!


While your here, can you help this guy out too??

https://passionford.com/forum/viewto...730&highlight=
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and there was me thinking they give out manuals incase a GIRL wants to use them
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Thanks Simon

I wilil test in the car this weekend and post the results for you on the interface

JJ

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simon please stop replying to all the snippers, this thread about a software upgrade so keep it that way. fook off and start another thread if you want to slag off or argue with simon .
been waiting for this upgrade for a while so STOP fucking it up for us
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Just tested my little in car laptop....

Toshiba libretto 166mhz, 32mb ram !!

W98SE

normal com port - YES

usb serial adaptor - YES

pcmcia serial port - NO
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Originally Posted by JjCoDeX75
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I dont know about anybody else, but I am getting really pissed off at people sniping at SECS every time he posts on the subject of the ECU.

For those of us that are still using them, you are just fucking it up for the rest of us.

I understand that people may have gripes, but if you are not happy, then deal with it by all means, but stop fucking up the continued development for the rest of us. None of the comments are exactly original.

I dont care who he has let down. I dont care why. I know that this is not a very charitable attitude, but yet again it has led to something positive being turned into something negative!!!!

FFS Can somebody stop this happening every time SECS offers to develop the ECU

It is entirely possible that without these boring sniped comments that have been regurgitated over and over again Simon might be prepared to do the software development.

Apologies if this email has pissed these complainees off, but that is simply how I feel. Perhaps if bygones are left as bygones, we can work towards the future.

JJ
Could not have put it better myself.

For every one who has issues with SECS can you please deal with it another way and stop turning every one of his threads to SHIT

Rant over

Simon

Hopefully will get chance to try the new software over the weekend and will post / PM the results to you

Bri.

Old 13-10-2006, 09:54 PM
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i got a SECS S8, fucking good bit of kit IMO, but i dont have a laptop, or know what the fuck simon is going on about

what i do know is that i want ALS on the zetec turbo so hopefully simon will sort that out for me

ill pay him in stella of course

hes a fucking clever block, why some people have to go over the same old shit is beyond me.

we all know his customer service aint 100%, but then he done the SECS project as a side line and actually has a family and kids.... so may not always be able to provide for each individuals beck and call.

whats done is in the past, and if he is STILL trying to sort things for people that use his product, and actually know the fook to do (unlike me ) then TOP MAN!!!
Old 13-10-2006, 10:33 PM
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the man's sent me equipment gave me advice offered to come to my house to help sort the car dont know me from adam but it always seems to be the same few that jump on the lets hump simon band wagon but hey they have there beef . all i know is ill stick to my own rule to find out if someones a cunt or not

he's helped me and ive never been a customer , never spoke before so there you go
Old 14-10-2006, 12:38 AM
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Please give RS500/364 a break,
as he's not at fault at all here, but we all know what you have gone thro, (as some of us have also)

But can we leave this thread to whats its been posted for.
Old 14-10-2006, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by SECS
I bow down to your superior knowledge

Actually, I know quite a bit about the "blackdisk" and analog TV hacking
and the people/technology used aswell.

Any idiot could down load file soff the net an program chips but surely
that isnt what you meant - was it ?

How did you get round the type 07 smart cards extra XOR table
encryption on the suscription channels ?

Was the protocol checksum used as part of the line hashing algorithm
or was the 256 cut points used for scrambling limited by the same
2 second update time on all channels using cyclic redunancy of a
16 bit random seed still ?

Let me know this could turn out to be a good topic after all
IT WASNT JUST THE ANALOG CHANNELS AND ALSO THE SEASON SOFTWARE DATA LOGGING
ANYWAY THE PONIT OF ALL THIS WAS YOUR SERVICE !!

whats is this ABS checker i know sheady had one form somewere
u run the car at 30 MPH and checs the sensors and stuff but the firm went brankrupt
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Originally Posted by RS500/364

whats is this ABS checker i know sheady had one form somewere
u run the car at 30 MPH and checs the sensors and stuff but the firm went brankrupt
mate it a bit more clever than that its something simon made about 8/10 years ago it does 35 checks on the system valve block pump even the light test on the dash as for the company goin bust fuck knows who cares
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Originally Posted by jaycos
Originally Posted by RS500/364

whats is this ABS checker i know sheady had one form somewere
u run the car at 30 MPH and checs the sensors and stuff but the firm went brankrupt
mate it a bit more clever than that its something simon made about 8/10 years ago it does 35 checks on the system valve block pump even the light test on the dash as for the company goin bust fuck knows who cares
So not a simon clone just one of these plastic case with lights i think?


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