Pug 205 MI-16 or EVO
03-10-2006, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by pee vee
lol. you never went round a big left hander in yours then tiff 
oil surge tastic
oil surge tastic
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I do believe Bedford has 1 or 2 left handers
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03-10-2006, 09:33 PM
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baffled sumps dont cure it 100% 
poor drainage from the head is what causes it in mi16
(apparently so! oil gets pumped up there and cant drain back down
around long fast left handers
ive been reading up as i want mi16 in mine,, but its really offputting so many people with baffled sumps killing engines still!! Ask SiB!! )
poor drainage from the head is what causes it in mi16
(apparently so! oil gets pumped up there and cant drain back down
around long fast left handers
ive been reading up as i want mi16 in mine,, but its really offputting so many people with baffled sumps killing engines still!! Ask SiB!! )
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03-10-2006, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by pee vee
baffled sumps dont cure it 100%
poor drainage from the head is what causes it in mi16
(apparently so!)
poor drainage from the head is what causes it in mi16
(apparently so!)
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03-10-2006, 09:55 PM
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You should see how many people on 205gtidrivers kill Mi-16 engines running proper Peugeot Sport sump baffles on road tyres. Some say they even get oil surge on the road let alone on track
Maybe you wern't driving fast enough 
Just kidding
You should see how many people on 205gtidrivers kill Mi-16 engines running proper Peugeot Sport sump baffles on road tyres. Some say they even get oil surge on the road let alone on track
Maybe you wern't driving fast enough
Just kidding
03-10-2006, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TIFF
Uprated oil pump spring aswell
Never lost ANY oil pressure on ANY track ....was ALWAYS running slicks aswell
Never lost ANY oil pressure on ANY track ....was ALWAYS running slicks aswell
Gotta say though.. I am aware they do have issues but the things to combat the issue are as follow.
Baffled sump
Uprated oil pump
Oil cooler.
Thats what was done to Marks car and never in the 5 or 6 track days we did was there a problem
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03-10-2006, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Phil
TIFF
You should see how many people on 205gtidrivers kill Mi-16 engines running proper Peugeot Sport sump baffles on road tyres. Some say they even get oil surge on the road let alone on track
Maybe you wern't driving fast enough Just kidding
You should see how many people on 205gtidrivers kill Mi-16 engines running proper Peugeot Sport sump baffles on road tyres. Some say they even get oil surge on the road let alone on track
Maybe you wern't driving fast enough
Just kidding ) is perfectly fast enough in my book.. in a small carJake
03-10-2006, 09:59 PM
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Shings
The oil pump spring won't make any difference if it is sucking up air
The oil pump spring won't make any difference if it is sucking up air
Problem arises with crap installs at the wrong angle- according to Yoda.. when i was looking for one before he said it was imperitive you got the correct angle or THEY'RE PRONE TO SURGE and fucked engines
03-10-2006, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TIFF
I guess having one of the leading Pug UK rally teams mechanic coming to your track days and maintaining the car does help....Also running an NMS built engine with tweaked head
03-10-2006, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TIFF
I guess having one of the leading Pug UK rally teams mechanic coming to your track days and maintaining the car does help
03-10-2006, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Shings
Originally Posted by Phil
Shings
The oil pump spring won't make any difference if it is sucking up air
The oil pump spring won't make any difference if it is sucking up air
Problem arises with crap installs at the wrong angle- according to Yoda.. when i was looking for one before he said it was imperitive you got the correct angle or THEY'RE PRONE TO SURGE and fucked engines
Just what AB Motorsport said aswell......and they know a thing or two aswell
03-10-2006, 10:02 PM
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True the angle might make a difference, although these days most you see are done properly now exhaust manifolds are available off the shelf
I don't think the oil cooler will help either as they run after the oil pump in the scheme of oil flow. Not trying to argue here just saying Plus 1.9 GTis have a proper Mocal style air to oil cooler as standard
True the angle might make a difference, although these days most you see are done properly now exhaust manifolds are available off the shelf
I don't think the oil cooler will help either as they run after the oil pump in the scheme of oil flow. Not trying to argue here just saying
Plus 1.9 GTis have a proper Mocal style air to oil cooler as standard
03-10-2006, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Phil
Shings
True the angle might make a difference, although these days most you see are done properly now exhaust manifolds are available off the shelf
I don't think the oil cooler will help either as they run after the oil pump in the scheme of oil flow. Not trying to argue here just saying Plus 1.9 GTis have a proper Mocal style air to oil cooler as standard
True the angle might make a difference, although these days most you see are done properly now exhaust manifolds are available off the shelf
I don't think the oil cooler will help either as they run after the oil pump in the scheme of oil flow. Not trying to argue here just saying
Plus 1.9 GTis have a proper Mocal style air to oil cooler as standard Saying they all do it is a bit of a tongue in cheek comment as I have first hand experience of one that doesn't... thats all
BUT having said that..
It was a properly built and modified engine with all the correct bits and bobs added to it to make it safe.. and to say it had NO expense spared is an understatement..
I also doubt many people can say they have such an amazing back up as Mark did in the sense one of his best mates is one of AB's mechanics.. and me of course
I SOUND LIKE SUCH A JUMPED UP TWAT!!!!
07-10-2006, 01:32 PM
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Recently did an MLR track day at Cadwell park, in my little pug 1.9 8v. Oil surge was such a problem that I left white smoke from my exhaust on serious corners, that I decided to drived back home after only 30mins of putting a challenging sheen over the track for the Jap boys to catch me.
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07-10-2006, 03:00 PM
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heres a few pics of my old 205 mi16,built her myself for about 2.5 k inccluding respray,engine,suspension,wheels kit etc,was a great wee car would love another one for the winter so i can have some real fun while the turbocab is tucked away in the garage,made 158.5 bhp at a pug club/redline rolling road shootout at ecosse a few years back
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