FFS Im still not sure what to do RE My bike...
01-10-2006, 07:41 PM
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FFS Im still not sure what to do RE My bike...
Sorry for being a pain, but even tho ive said id take bike back ive still got this in my head:
I bought the bike in good faith, but after closer inspection i suspected it had been down on the right....bugger i thought but fook it cos i got it at a good price and chose not to inspect further....
Hes bought it off me in good faith KNOWING it has been down on the right and chose NOT to have it inspected fully even tho he knows hes been dropped....
Hes looked into it further and found out the damage is worse than it looked....got at at a bargain price a LOT less than what i paid and a lot less than its worth if undamaged.. He took his chances...
But i have to lose out?
its bugging me to fook this
I bought the bike in good faith, but after closer inspection i suspected it had been down on the right....bugger i thought but fook it cos i got it at a good price and chose not to inspect further....
Hes bought it off me in good faith KNOWING it has been down on the right and chose NOT to have it inspected fully even tho he knows hes been dropped....
Hes looked into it further and found out the damage is worse than it looked....got at at a bargain price a LOT less than what i paid and a lot less than its worth if undamaged.. He took his chances...
But i have to lose out?
its bugging me to fook this
01-10-2006, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
he had the chance to get it checked over Lee, he chose not too.
his loss imo.
his loss imo.
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01-10-2006, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Damo V
Youve already agreed to take it back .... Which it has to be said WAS big of you.... Surely you cant go back on your word now?? Can you?
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01-10-2006, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
if he is a new rider how can he tell if its bent.
you could not tell could you.
you could not tell could you.
01-10-2006, 07:51 PM
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Lee,
i sell you my cossie with a blown headgasket. You know that, but you still choose to buy it. You take head off and find the head is warped because the car overheated which caused a headgasket failure. Would you expect me to take the cossie back because the head is warped, even though you bought it knowing there was a headgasket failure. Would you have the balls to even ask me. i would say get lost, you bought it knowing the problem and what other problems a headgasket failure brings with it.
He bought a bike that had been down, so he must also know that there may be other problems as well, due to the bike being damaged. Just as you knew when you bought it. So why have you agreed to take it back. He chose to buy it knowing it was damaged. Phone him back, say you've had a chance to think about it and you dont want it back
i sell you my cossie with a blown headgasket. You know that, but you still choose to buy it. You take head off and find the head is warped because the car overheated which caused a headgasket failure. Would you expect me to take the cossie back because the head is warped, even though you bought it knowing there was a headgasket failure. Would you have the balls to even ask me. i would say get lost, you bought it knowing the problem and what other problems a headgasket failure brings with it.
He bought a bike that had been down, so he must also know that there may be other problems as well, due to the bike being damaged. Just as you knew when you bought it. So why have you agreed to take it back.
He chose to buy it knowing it was damaged. Phone him back, say you've had a chance to think about it and you dont want it back
01-10-2006, 07:53 PM
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god this gets harder
theres more people saying tell him its his problem....even lindsay has just phoned me from work saying she doesnt think i should take it back..but the nice guy in me(believe it or not lol) says take it back
theres more people saying tell him its his problem....even lindsay has just phoned me from work saying she doesnt think i should take it back..but the nice guy in me(believe it or not lol) says take it back
01-10-2006, 07:55 PM
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TBH, if they had arranged for a full inspection to be carried out this probably would have been discovered.... They didnt ... their loss.... Buyer beware IMO... you could take it back (providing it wont have an extra owner on the book) then simply advertise it elsewhere let someone else take it away sold as seen,....
TBH where you have scuppered yourself IMO was by stating in your ad you knew it had been down but not mentioning frame issues.... not your fault I know, on the other hand, if they knew it had been put on the deck, they should have stripped to inspect before handing over cash IMO....
Tough one, I would be tempted to tell him to burn it and claim on his insurance I guess the bike isnt on the hit list then??
TBH where you have scuppered yourself IMO was by stating in your ad you knew it had been down but not mentioning frame issues.... not your fault I know, on the other hand, if they knew it had been put on the deck, they should have stripped to inspect before handing over cash IMO....
Tough one, I would be tempted to tell him to burn it and claim on his insurance
I guess the bike isnt on the hit list then??
01-10-2006, 07:58 PM
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He knew it had been down the road and repaired, so it being filled to be fixed/repaired is not your problem! 
he knew this and brought it, HIS problem, drove ok for you didn't it?
he knew this and brought it, HIS problem, drove ok for you didn't it?
01-10-2006, 08:04 PM
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TBH, if they had arranged for a full inspection to be carried out this probably would have been discovered.... They didnt ... their loss.... Buyer beware IMO... you could take it back (providing it wont have an extra owner on the book) then simply advertise it elsewhere let someone else take it away sold as seen,....
TBH where you have scuppered yourself IMO was by stating in your ad you knew it had been down but not mentioning frame issues.... not your fault I know, on the other hand, if they knew it had been put on the deck, they should have stripped to inspect before handing over cash IMO....
Tough one, I would be tempted to tell him to burn it and claim on his insurance I guess the bike isnt on the hit list then??
TBH where you have scuppered yourself IMO was by stating in your ad you knew it had been down but not mentioning frame issues.... not your fault I know, on the other hand, if they knew it had been put on the deck, they should have stripped to inspect before handing over cash IMO....
Tough one, I would be tempted to tell him to burn it and claim on his insurance
I guess the bike isnt on the hit list then??
01-10-2006, 08:05 PM
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He knew it had been down the road and repaired, so it being filled to be fixed/repaired is not your problem!
he knew this and brought it, HIS problem, drove ok for you didn't it?
he knew this and brought it, HIS problem, drove ok for you didn't it?
01-10-2006, 08:07 PM
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Like the people say if he knew it had been down the road on its side b4 handing over the cash its HIS fault for not having a proper inspection done BEFORE handing over the ŁŁŁŁ....
Plus surely the log book has been sent off so if you have it back it'll have his name on the book and then you'll have to change the log bok back to you... thus putting 2 extra owners on it!!!!
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Plus surely the log book has been sent off so if you have it back it'll have his name on the book and then you'll have to change the log bok back to you... thus putting 2 extra owners on it!!!!
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01-10-2006, 08:08 PM
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TBH if I was looking at buying a car which had been painted I would be EXTRA vigilant with it ie by making thoroughly sure the damage didnt run deeper.... Sounds to me like the pair of em (dad and son) are a couple of muppets.... imo...
01-10-2006, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
no not on the hpi Damo....just goes to show!
THAT just goes to show HPi isn't all it cracked up to be!!!!!
Guy drops bike fixes himself outta his pocket... not on HPi
Guy drops bike goes thru insurance...... ends up on HPi
Good luck with whatever you choose Lee
01-10-2006, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve_B
Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
no not on the hpi Damo....just goes to show!
THAT just goes to show HPi isn't all it cracked up to be!!!!!
Guy drops bike fixes himself outta his pocket... not on HPi
Guy drops bike goes thru insurance...... ends up on HPi
It will only go on there if it is an uneconomical repair... ie written off.. in theory Lees bike couldve been repaired by the insurance company to satisfactory standards.....
much the same as buying a car which has been jigged and repaneled by an insurance company (not that I would want one of those either lol)
01-10-2006, 08:22 PM
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Im a coward...lol. I just text him how i feel on the situation. He says he knows its shit, and says he did take his chances but didnt expect it to be a covered up right off....Bloody hell it cant be that bad A dented frame? Also says radiator has been bust and bodged... He said it would stil fetch good money for a track bike or something....bloody hell its mint So i said well cant you sell it then...as i stand to lose a LOT more than him as i paid a lot more...
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yes thats shit isnt it. Something gets repaired PROPERLY thru insurance yet gets put on hit list... someone bodges something and it can be ages before it gets noticed....
A dented frame? Also says radiator has been bust and bodged... He said it would stil fetch good money for a track bike or something....bloody hell its mint So i said well cant you sell it then...as i stand to lose a LOT more than him as i paid a lot more...Steve_B
yes thats shit isnt it. Something gets repaired PROPERLY thru insurance yet gets put on hit list... someone bodges something and it can be ages before it gets noticed....
01-10-2006, 08:25 PM
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Damo,
I know a guy who ripped most of the rear end off his Saff hititng a lamppost sideways and paid outta his own pocket to have it repaired....IF he had gone thru the insurance it WOULD have been writen off 100% this is the sort of thing I mean, I know that if a car has a repair it only goes on HPI as a write off if its written off / unecomical repair.... that what I ment with above case I wrote (couldn't be bothered with writing an essay tho.....lol, I leave those to Ginge
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I know a guy who ripped most of the rear end off his Saff hititng a lamppost sideways and paid outta his own pocket to have it repaired....IF he had gone thru the insurance it WOULD have been writen off 100% this is the sort of thing I mean, I know that if a car has a repair it only goes on HPI as a write off if its written off / unecomical repair.... that what I ment with above case I wrote (couldn't be bothered with writing an essay tho.....lol, I leave those to Ginge
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01-10-2006, 08:26 PM
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yes thats shit isnt it. Something gets repaired PROPERLY thru insurance yet gets put on hit list...
yes thats shit isnt it. Something gets repaired PROPERLY thru insurance yet gets put on hit list...
01-10-2006, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
Im a coward...lol. I just text him how i feel on the situation. He says he knows its shit, and says he did take his chances but didnt expect it to be a covered up right off....Bloody hell it cant be that bad A dented frame? Also says radiator has been bust and bodged... He said it would stil fetch good money for a track bike or something....bloody hell its mint So i said well cant you sell it then...as i stand to lose a LOT more than him as i paid a lot more...
Steve_B
yes thats shit isnt it. Something gets repaired PROPERLY thru insurance yet gets put on hit list... someone bodges something and it can be ages before it gets noticed....
A dented frame? Also says radiator has been bust and bodged... He said it would stil fetch good money for a track bike or something....bloody hell its mint So i said well cant you sell it then...as i stand to lose a LOT more than him as i paid a lot more...Steve_B
yes thats shit isnt it. Something gets repaired PROPERLY thru insurance yet gets put on hit list... someone bodges something and it can be ages before it gets noticed....
should have done it before he gave you the money, tell him to bollox 
01-10-2006, 08:28 PM
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yes thats shit isnt it. Something gets repaired PROPERLY thru insurance yet gets put on hit list...
yes thats shit isnt it. Something gets repaired PROPERLY thru insurance yet gets put on hit list...
think it gets noted if there has been a claim on it.
01-10-2006, 08:36 PM
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i would have told him it was sold as seen and you are sorry but the money is now spent! goodbye!
but if you are dead set on being a good guy tell him to give you advertising fees back and re advertise,if he bought it someone else will and be clear next time SOLD AS SEEN ,ANY INSPECTION WELCOME
but if you are dead set on being a good guy tell him to give you advertising fees back and re advertise,if he bought it someone else will and be clear next time SOLD AS SEEN ,ANY INSPECTION WELCOME
01-10-2006, 08:37 PM
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so what did he say when you suggested him selling it.
So i said i feel bad etc but i have baby on way thats one of the reasons i sold it! and i stand to lose a lot more
01-10-2006, 08:38 PM
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bottom line is, tell him you ve spoken to a lawyer, and he as said that not to take the bike back, because the bike was sold as seen, tryed and tested and after looking at the bike he was happy with it, and took it away, so anything could have happened to the bike when it was in his care, because it was sold as seen tryed and tested it came with no warrantly, if he wants to take it further, he ve to take it through the small claims court
01-10-2006, 08:42 PM
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I know if i was going to buy a bike that was advertised as having been involved in any sort of accident (whether it be light or heavy damage), I would have without doubt have to have it professionally inspected before hand to save the risk of anything like this, the boy knew full well the risk he was taking in buying the bike and therefore cant expect to return it having found out afterwards that it is damaged further than he thought. He has obviously made a rash decision in doing so and seems like he's clutching at straws to make it right, u have nothing to feel guilty about what so ever!
Let him deal with it!
Let him deal with it!
01-10-2006, 08:45 PM
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Lee I said this in PM but ill repeat here.
its his problem mate, all you need to do as the seller is say it had been dropped, which you did.
the rest of the onis (sp?) is on him to get it checked over.
Rich said it better than I did via PM but totally true
its his problem mate, all you need to do as the seller is say it had been dropped, which you did.
the rest of the onis (sp?) is on him to get it checked over.
Rich said it better than I did via PM but totally true
sell you my cossie with a blown headgasket. You know that, but you still choose to buy it. You take head off and find the head is warped because the car overheated which caused a headgasket failure. Would you expect me to take the cossie back because the head is warped, even though you bought it knowing there was a headgasket failure. Would you have the balls to even ask me. i would say get lost, you bought it knowing the problem and what other problems a headgasket failure brings with it.
01-10-2006, 08:48 PM
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Just had another text. Says trading standards act covers him on this case and he will go down that route if he has to....
hmmm...
i like to settle things nice, i offrered to buy him a radiator...but im getting threatened with court
hmmm...
i like to settle things nice, i offrered to buy him a radiator...but im getting threatened with court
01-10-2006, 08:56 PM
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just had a shitter text. Says hell go down the legal route if he has to and i stand to lose a lot more than a few hundred quid! FFS ive tried sorting this amicably and i get that
01-10-2006, 08:57 PM
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Get it independently checked. If they decide it's bent then give him his money back (as you have already said you might do) remember it could just be the fact that he's realised that it's too fast or something as a first bike or he doesnt like the riding position (after riding it) and now wants something with a more upright riding position like a bandit etc. Check the mileage on it when they bring it back as if they've done hundreds of miles then you can tell them to jump.
01-10-2006, 08:58 PM
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He cant do a damn thing, he's trying it on.
Now he's turned nasty I would reply with
"if thats the way you want to play it then have a go, but you'll pretty quickly find you dont have a leg to stand on. We could have resolved this civilly with a partial refund, but you can forget that now. See you in court!"
Do it
Now he's turned nasty I would reply with
"if thats the way you want to play it then have a go, but you'll pretty quickly find you dont have a leg to stand on. We could have resolved this civilly with a partial refund, but you can forget that now. See you in court!"
Do it
01-10-2006, 08:59 PM
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Spot on all these comments, cant believe the amount of deluded fools who commented on your first post Lee, yeah its all well being "a big man" about it by offering to take it back, but you did your bit by stating it had been damaged/dropped in your advert, thats a damn site more than the majority of folks woul dof done mate
You did all you could it was down to the buyer to make sure it was repaired proper before handing over the cash, not after
I'm all for honesty and would feel shit like you do in the same situation, but I have my limits and knowing I had done my bit as the seller would be enough for me, he's a young lad, he'll have to sell it on and chalk it up as a lesson learnt, we've all been there and learnt from ours
Hope it gets sorted mate, maybe you could mention the legal advice in a non threatening sort of way, just so you know where you stood so to speak, see how he reacts.
You did all you could it was down to the buyer to make sure it was repaired proper before handing over the cash, not after
I'm all for honesty and would feel shit like you do in the same situation, but I have my limits and knowing I had done my bit as the seller would be enough for me, he's a young lad, he'll have to sell it on and chalk it up as a lesson learnt, we've all been there and learnt from ours
Hope it gets sorted mate, maybe you could mention the legal advice in a non threatening sort of way, just so you know where you stood so to speak, see how he reacts.