Mr RS500

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Following on from my last post talking about " are there any good saffs left "

I went on sunday ( my day off ) tp look at a superb saff @ lincoln , 2 hours drive for me .

The owners description ,,

68,000 miles FSH, previous MOT"s etc etc

Interior
the best leather trim you will find in any cosworth

bodywork
One very minor rust spot on drivers arch

engine
super sweet , runs like a drem , no rattles . smoke etc etc

wheels and tryres
Std rims in A1 condition with new tyres

This sounded a nice ar @ 4k

So i got up early on my day off and took the trip over

WELL,,

My description

68,000 miles ,, what about the other 100,000

Interior

Mint black leather i have seen ( apart from the 3" slash in the drivers seat and the paint on both front seats )

Bodywork

All 4 arches are scabby as fuck
N/s rear quater has a great scrape and dents all down it

Has had more paint than the fourth bridge
Drivers door fucked , boot lock missimg
Inners wings welded up ( badly )

engine

didnt even bother starting it after looking at the bodywork and interior

Wheels and tyres

Scabby std rims wirh odd tyres

WHY WHY WHY do people talk shit

I looked at the car for 30 seconds and told the bloke the car was a total shitter and walked away telling him i had broke better cars and that i was going before i battered the shit out of him for telling me fucking bollocks about his car


I am getting sick of travelling hundreds of miles and spending loads on fuel etc to see cars that are mint ,,that are fit to be breakers

I am startint to loose faith in people now

GUZZLER

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the joys of buying cars
drives me insane.

Billy Sasterd

How can you tell when a guy selling a cosworth is lying .............

His f*ckin' lips are moving

You should have punched the coont anyway Paul

Ginge !

just look in parts forsale, there good cars about,,,,, you just have top remember you aint gona get a decent car for 4k


why does cars having paint bother people


tbh a car thats had a paint job is better imo


but then id use the car to nail the tits off it on every ocasion and not lick the fucking wheel nuts when the missus aint looking

Mr RS500

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I didnt expect a concourse car for 4k but this was a total shitter

I expected it to have seen paint ( they all have ) but this had been repainted about 8 times and was a propper Ł200 blow over

My point is that people tell you totaly the opposite of what you see ,

as said i dont expect a perfect car , just a decent car thats as described

Paul

Jay,

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its not the paint ginge its wats bin done underneath it chap all the fuckin bodge jobs

Shings

should have mine Paul...

Prob gonna get it fixed and sell it instead.

Jake

Mr RS500

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Exactly Jay

this cars paint was covering prep work done by his 3 year old daughter

radiant red

this is the kinda shit i will be coming up against soon.

a mate is selling his k plate 4x4 stage 3 huge history file showing 93k on the clock,its a sweet car but it aint white

he's after 5 to 6k

Mr RS500

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Jake

I think its worth fixing as you will get good money when done

Shings

I know mate- I just can't be arsed.. but fuck it.. go with your advice and get it done.. thanks for being fair with me..
Jake

Jay,

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never met a breaker like him normally most coont is dodgy in the motor trade but paul treats people with respect shame he dont get the same back by the looks of things fookin time waisted idiots

MONSTER

afpmsl

you should of twatted him anyway Paul

sabres74

What do people still do this? Do they really expect that you will part with your money on their description.

Every time I have bought any car, I insist on multiple close up pictures to support the claims made for the car. Those with shitters don't even reply but the proper sellers are usually happy to oblige if they think you are an interested buyer. I know pictures don't show all but it saves a lot of driving miles.

Mr RS500

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Jay

Thanks for that

To be honest your right though , its respect that everyone expects and there is no reason to tell people bollocks , just the truth that everyone wants and thats what they get from me and its all expact back

bud-weis

it's strange with cossies,take mine i just sold,to look at it was a very tidy car,only a tiny tiny bit of rust on one arch (under the paint) fresh built engine,decent spec nearly 400bhp,a nice looking honest saff,i sold it for nearly Ł6k even though it had 13 odd owners,and had been resprayed a different colour a few years earlier...

this to me was a classic case of buy as you see,the car was lovely looking,drove faultlessly and was well specced for the dosh.

but some people would rather buy a low mileage,lower specced car with only a few owners,almost regardless of condition etc cos they think they'll get a nice car,which isn't always the case!!!

a mate bought a car off a trader on here from memory,admittedly it was lovely looking with fresh paint,but it was obvious to me when i first saw it a rebuild was only a few hundred miles away,he's now having to shell out for a rebuild on a saff that cost near Ł7k!!! moral is be vigilant regardless of what the seller says!!

not a dig at you btw Paul,i've only ever heard great things about the things you sell!

but people should be totally honest regardless of price!!!

The DIVA

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Wanna buy mine fella....

Proper car honest,my word is my bond.....

Know what you mean about shitters though mate,have looked at a couple recently and the owners are going on about how tidy they are.........Then they look at my Escos and go strangely quiet.....

wimwerf

also a guy here in holland...

sell his saph with 360bhp...

i saw a pic off the engine room...t3, 4wd IC....

i asked..what boost does it run...

he said...1.5bar normally...and 3bar when playing..

i said..a t3 with 3bar boost..

end of story...he said..im driving around in such cars for 10years...

i showed him a pic of my engine room...mine is stage 3 spec..t34, rs500IC, greens etc etc..

he said...what do you know about it....

Rene

99 out of 100 people in holland are talking fookin bollox! THEY ARE ALL WANKERS!

3bar on a T3 PSML

(just seen the ad wim )

would be nice tho running 10 bar on a T4

soz to hear paul

Ginge !

ive seen a few saphs before i got mine, most where wank and tbh they was the big money ones


the cheepest one i seen was the first car i seen, it wa a black 2wd saph that wyn on here was selling, was only stage 1 and thats why i never bought it, tbh i wish i did as i later found that black 2wd cossies are rare and even though it wasnt perfect, it wasnt a bad one, only prob i found was the leaking in the boot


then i seen lots of cars for over 5k that where wank, had a bloke in essec say he "may" sell his saph but he aint gonna give it away as its a nice car,,,, WAS THE WORST FUCKING CAR IVE SEEN, RUST ON THE FUCKING ROOF, NEAR THE WINDOW SEALS, BOTH ARCHES AND WAS 350BHP WITH A FUCKING 2WD COOLER, WAS A FUCKING MESSED UP PEICE OF CRAP


i bought the one i did as it was tbh cheap for the spec but lacked history,,,, infact its lacking even more than it did as my missus binned the only history it had a few months later as the thought it was part of her old college work

bud-weis

kinda my point,people seem to value history with these cars too much,ok fair enough if you haven't a clue about cars and you'd like to know about it's past,but to me it's more important to buy a car that is spot on when i see it,i don't particularly care if it's had it's oil changed religiously and you have every receipt for every window wiper you have ever bought, i wanna know the engine is sweet and the body is good!!

your not driving peices of paper around,your driving the car...so make sure it's spot on!

back to the original topic anyway the prices for saffs are all over the place now,really cheap ones about and some well dear ones,it really is pot luck!

Mr RS500

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Martin

I agree 100% , history isnt that much of an issue to me , I would rather have a car with 10 owners and no history thats a good honest car in good candition with a sweet engine etc and drives nice , than a low owner bag of shite ,

we forget that they are old cars now and most of the history with these cars is bollox anyway service stamps by the same garage in the midlands when its been owned by a scotish fella for the last 3 years ,,shit like that

I dont expect new looking cars for 4 /5k , i just expect honest descriptions of them so i can decide if i want to view or not if i think i can sell the car on for a little proffit or not

Paul

bud-weis

totally agree,must be so so frustrating for you!

i've done it myself when looking for cars for mates,they're advertised as good clean cars,yet within 5 seconds of seeing them you know you've wasted your time! makes you wanna kick off big time!

Anonymous

Thats half the problem though surely, you are trying to make money from a car which means you have to do one of three things:

a) buy it for less than its worth
b) sell it for more than its worth
c) buy something with problems and fix it


If the person you were buying from had the knowledge to know the exact details of what they were selling then surely they would be selling it at the same price that you would sell it for and hence you would see no profit?

wimwerf

Rene...from all the 100 cossie owners here in holland...who is talking bollox..you or me...

hehehe