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Old 07-09-2006 | 09:24 PM
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I know this has been done a few times now, Kenny at MSD built a grey one, and there was the red 4x4 in Performance Ford a few months ago.

Now, what I'm asking about here is whats involved in this. Obviously pistons will need to be replaced with lower compression forged items, but any guesses on the capability of the rods? Crank?

Managment, can the original stuff be re-mapped to cope, or is a complete managment change required.

The 'box is an MTX75 IIRC, which could handle the power I'm sure, but can you get a decent diff for it?

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Get an RST tbfh
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Thanks for that.

But it wasn't what I asked.
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mate you need to look on here > http://www.rs2000-16v.co.uk/newsitefiles/indexnew1.htm
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i run a 8v I4, in the sierra thats turo charged runnng t25, 12psi and 10.5:1 compession 211bhp 240ft lb
Old 07-09-2006 | 11:23 PM
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rods and crank are strong but it depends wht you want to put through them power wise
Old 07-09-2006 | 11:25 PM
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250 would be spot on. Any more is a waste in a FWD car. All, IMHO

How are your pistons holding up?
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Pistons are fine, and there cast.
250 from rods and crank is fine no problems at all
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Hmmm, so a de-comp plate may be able to lower compression enough?


Are forged pistons avaliable? Or are we talking custom jobbies
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Custom, there are no pistons off the shelf that will surfice, its a 86mm bore if i remember, and dont listen to people who say calibra turbo or astra gte pistons fit cause they dont, Ł600 for forged items
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Okay mate, cheers for that.

I might try it on the original pistons with a decompression plate, and see how I get on. Then I can always go for forged pistons if I melt them
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Why??

Surely its a better option to go the 16v Zetec route? Parts avilability and knowledge is far better than the I4.....

I personally would waste my time and money turbo charging one on the standard cast pistons and a de-compression plate
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Why not? Loads of people do this with zetecs?

I've had 9 RS Turbos.... I just fancied doing something different. And the Mk6 RS2K is a nice looking car, and they handle quite well.


I'll probably end up with another red Rst........
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I did this:



in this:



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Now we're fucking talking mate. Details please
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nowt to tell really

standard engine, inlet was a cossie one, exhaust I made myself, including manifold, was about 220bhp, went alright, and the engine now lives in my mates garage
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What have I got to lose. Apart from 4 pistons and some money
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Why dont u buy gracelands engine?
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Well, if it was a low comp sooper dooper thing I would, but I'd be putting it in a FWD car so not really applicable.

As it's just a standard engine I could use the original engine in the RS2K I might buy....

Like I said, I'll probably end up with RS Turbo number 10
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check out jasons (aka lord vador) on RS2000-16v.com

301bhp, turbo'd I4, red 4x4 RS2k mk6

quality motor

speak to him or HT racing (or engineering) they're called i think

down south, do loads of stuff with the I4 engine

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If it was me....I would still buy the RS2k but I'd stick a conventional 16v 2 litre turbo into it....that would be a cool car

Reasons:

Parts availability
Knowledge Resourse
Turbocharging the engine has already been developed

Turboing the I4 is a relative unknown....for me I wouldn't risk wasting my money [I prefer driving them not building them ]
Old 08-09-2006 | 03:14 PM
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I see your point mate. Ditch the RS2K engine for a ZT.

I'll have a think about it. That RST is looming even closer
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Originally Posted by OvaBoost
Why dont u buy gracelands engine?
the slight problem of me selling it over 2 years ago might have something to do with it
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Can I make a suggestion?

If it's the look of the Mk6 escort your after but want it Turbo'd, why not go for a GTi? they run a zetec engine, so you would then have a relative simple swap to ZT!! and have the looks of the 2k!!

Bish bash bosh....Job Done
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Originally Posted by Cawood
check out jasons (aka lord vador) on RS2000-16v.com

301bhp, turbo'd I4, red 4x4 RS2k mk6

quality motor

speak to him or HT racing (or engineering) they're called i think

down south, do loads of stuff with the I4 engine

300bhp with only 12 psi of boost
Jasons car is a 2.3 Galaxy motor, off the shelf JE forged low compression pistons are available for the 2.3 thanks to Ian who is building a Lysholm screw type supercharged RS2300 4x4 with a Mistsubishi Evo gearbox and Jason who has turbocharged the 2.3. Why piss about with a small engine when a bigger one fits the same space and the parts are available ?

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this is jason(lord vador engine

over 300bhp and over 310lb/ft at 12psi
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for the 2000 16 I4 you want pistons like this as same bottom end as 2000 8v I4



made in the states complete with gapless rings to suit the 8 valve head for 635 quid, and they are forged items with custom cnc machining, pistin crown thickness is 10mm

i am currently running 19psi now on a cossie stage 2 T3 turbo mbe management and calibra turbo injectors
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These are the J.E forged low comp. pistons for the 2.3 Motor




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suprised we havent had the usual

" just buy a cossie"


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Well, now we're past the cossie thing.

I am still debating the whole idea. Sticking with the XR for a while longer to save a bit more cash.
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