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Old 07-10-2006, 04:44 PM
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Hi Peeps

just a little update

Simon has got the box back ready for another go

we have also exchange his rear diff for a 7" uprated Vc with 120Nm and uprated planet gears , his front diff has been serviced with new bearings seals /polished CWP

lets hope it's all sorted now and lets see how he gets on

Cheers marco
Old 07-10-2006, 05:55 PM
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thats a quick turn around for whats been done
so he now has the correct diff ratio's ????
Old 08-10-2006, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by leecavturbo
thats a quick turn around for whats been done
so he now has the correct diff ratio's ????

Hi lee

well the box was ok in everyway except for the Vc we have put a new uprated Vc in the box rated @ 60Nm

yes , he now has the correct diffs which are 3.62 front and rear

cheers Marco
Old 08-10-2006, 12:06 PM
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lets hope everything holds up ok this time
Old 19-10-2006, 11:03 PM
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any testing yet
Old 19-10-2006, 11:14 PM
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A bit of road testing only at the mo - car seems sweet!

Rolling road today (Friday morning) to find out the power, then track day somewhere, and maybe a bit of magazine thrashing

I'll keep the post updated, and will try to post some vid clips of the in car (and drive by) gearbox noise - which sounds ACE, and to me is not intrusive enough to be a problem.

I love it, big thanks to Marco for putting up with the hassle - we're getting there!

Si
Old 19-10-2006, 11:16 PM
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Do you ever do things like kicking the clutch at full trottle to get the rear end out?
Old 19-10-2006, 11:24 PM
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is it a dog box or straight cut then what ever its called (noisey ish)
so the old story was they won't last with daily driving but your hoping this will do both?
Old 19-10-2006, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Azrael
Do you ever do things like kicking the clutch at full trottle to get the rear end out?
Nope, I'm a smooth straight line driver

Nah, I hammer the car for sure, but try to avoid getting the arse end out as I usually land up spinning or getting a tank slapper on! I was always worried about standard diffs and box to do anything other than 'normal' fast track driving.

Si
Old 19-10-2006, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SiB
Originally Posted by Azrael
Do you ever do things like kicking the clutch at full trottle to get the rear end out?
Nope, I'm a smooth straight line driver

Nah, I hammer the car for sure, but try to avoid getting the arse end out as I usually land up spinning or getting a tank slapper on! I was always worried about standard diffs and box to do anything other than 'normal' fast track driving.
The sories people tell of you don't sound like smooth and straight line



When it start to understeer a bit out of tight corner try it sometime Good for going sideways through big crossings on road

I just wondered because it's good test if gearbox is up to the job. With small turbo engine you can do this all the time, with your engine might be different even with uprated box.
Old 19-10-2006, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Azrael
Do you ever do things like kicking the clutch at full trottle to get the rear end out?

Oh Yeah, I've done that before.............................


































Just before second gear blew!!!!
Old 19-10-2006, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Azrael
Originally Posted by SiB
Originally Posted by Azrael
Do you ever do things like kicking the clutch at full trottle to get the rear end out?
Nope, I'm a smooth straight line driver

Nah, I hammer the car for sure, but try to avoid getting the arse end out as I usually land up spinning or getting a tank slapper on! I was always worried about standard diffs and box to do anything other than 'normal' fast track driving.
The sories people tell of you don't sound like smooth and straight line



When it start to understeer a bit out of tight corner try it sometime Good for going sideways through big crossings on road

I just wondered because it's good test if gearbox is up to the job. With small turbo engine you can do this all the time, with your engine might be different even with uprated box.
Ok smooth isn't really the best word for my driving

I may just give it a go one day - I've seen photos of your driving, and i'd love to do the same

Si
Old 20-10-2006, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by SiB

Ok smooth isn't really the best word for my driving

I may just give it a go one day - I've seen photos of your driving, and i'd love to do the same



Maybe next Easter
Old 22-10-2006, 04:10 PM
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Is it still working?
Old 22-10-2006, 05:15 PM
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I think my mate will be interested in a box like this, gony send him the link and you could very well here from him as he`s been having alot of greaif with his, i havent read all seven pages all leave that to him


Old 22-10-2006, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SiB
A bit of road testing only at the mo - car seems sweet!

Rolling road today (Friday morning) to find out the power, then track day somewhere, and maybe a bit of magazine thrashing

I'll keep the post updated, and will try to post some vid clips of the in car (and drive by) gearbox noise - which sounds ACE, and to me is not intrusive enough to be a problem.

I love it, big thanks to Marco for putting up with the hassle - we're getting there!

Si


it's been a mission with your car

don't worry about the rear diff that has a 120Nm uprated Vc and uprated planet gears

it's your front diff that will be your problem tho that will break first



what power did your car make on the rollers ? or didn't you go ?

cheers Marco
Old 22-10-2006, 05:41 PM
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Old 22-10-2006, 06:24 PM
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cheers richy
Old 22-10-2006, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by macca33
Is it still working?
yep it's still working
Old 22-10-2006, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by leecavturbo
is it a dog box or straight cut then what ever its called (noisey ish)
so the old story was they won't last with daily driving but your hoping this will do both?
Only just seen this post - must have missed it before.

It is a straight cut, big tooth box. Only 4th is helical and thus silent in operation. 1,2,3 & 5 all make a whining noise in use, BUT it is not as loud as say a typical RALLY car noise. In 5th at an 80 mph cruise you can just about hear it, but in my case the car is louder than the box. Not intrusive at all.

Around town, and in 1, 2 and 3rd it sounds ACE. Plus it's still holding together now despite some enthusiastic driving on my behalf!

Si
Old 22-10-2006, 09:41 PM
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Plus it's still holding together now despite some enthusiastic driving on my behalf!
Old 23-10-2006, 05:17 AM
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Any news on the diffs if so pm me.
Old 23-10-2006, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by SiB
Originally Posted by leecavturbo
is it a dog box or straight cut then what ever its called (noisey ish)
so the old story was they won't last with daily driving but your hoping this will do both?
Only just seen this post - must have missed it before.

It is a straight cut, big tooth box. Only 4th is helical and thus silent in operation. 1,2,3 & 5 all make a whining noise in use, BUT it is not as loud as say a typical RALLY car noise. In 5th at an 80 mph cruise you can just about hear it, but in my case the car is louder than the box. Not intrusive at all.

Around town, and in 1, 2 and 3rd it sounds ACE. Plus it's still holding together now despite some enthusiastic driving on my behalf!

Si
I don't think 4th is Helical mate.... its quiet in 4th for a different reason I think you will find
Old 23-10-2006, 06:44 AM
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Because 4th is direct gear.
Old 23-10-2006, 06:55 AM
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Indeedy
Old 23-10-2006, 06:58 AM
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Porkie by the way - 3-door looks great after repaint
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Originally Posted by Porkie
Originally Posted by SiB
Originally Posted by leecavturbo
is it a dog box or straight cut then what ever its called (noisey ish)
so the old story was they won't last with daily driving but your hoping this will do both?
Only just seen this post - must have missed it before.

It is a straight cut, big tooth box. Only 4th is helical and thus silent in operation. 1,2,3 & 5 all make a whining noise in use, BUT it is not as loud as say a typical RALLY car noise. In 5th at an 80 mph cruise you can just about hear it, but in my case the car is louder than the box. Not intrusive at all.

Around town, and in 1, 2 and 3rd it sounds ACE. Plus it's still holding together now despite some enthusiastic driving on my behalf!

Si
I don't think 4th is Helical mate.... its quiet in 4th for a different reason I think you will find

Azrael and Porkie - you're too clever
Old 11-11-2006, 11:48 PM
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any power upage ? any hard driving ?
Old 12-11-2006, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by leecavturbo
any power upage ? any hard driving ?
No power upgrade- but it has now been tested under track conditions!

I did a charity track day at Castle Combe a couple of weekends ago - the car performed faultlessly all day - using just 200ml or so of oil.

Shame it also used in total around 5 to 6 tanks of fuel due to a running fault it seems to have! I subsequently a few weekends later melted a hole in one piston at an indicated 165mph...

The car is now off the road and I'm trying to decide if the future lies in a GT30, rebuild and remap or T38 and remap and rebuild.

The last spec of engine never made full power (420 -440bhp) so could just sort that spec out, or could go down GT30, -6 fuel lines, remap route and make 500 ish bhp.

Really not sure, but do want to give the Mullit box a full workout - believe me it has been well abused at sensible power - just needs a hiding at 500bhp plus to fully prove it, which I'd like to do.

Si
Old 12-11-2006, 03:14 AM
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you will love a GT series turbo. the biggest benefit of a high flow quick spooling turbo is its ability to make more power at lower boost levels giving your engine less stress.
but you already knew that!
bugger on the piston tho.
Old 25-11-2006, 02:37 AM
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What ever happened to these gearbox`s folks??
Old 25-11-2006, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by macca33
What ever happened to these gearbox`s folks??
My box is still going stong, though my car isn't

Getting the bits / money together to rebuild the engine, then back on with the testing!

Marco is the person to speak to about ordering one - his details are elsewhere on this post...

Si
Old 25-11-2006, 08:36 PM
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Hi lads

yes the boxes are still going strong Porkie is going to use one ,he has 600+ bhp and will be at donnington this sunday

we will see how long it will last like i said the gear kit is well sorted and the boxes are built properly / professionanly without cutting any corners



cheers marco
Old 25-11-2006, 09:26 PM
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Is this the boxes that Martin is now listing in his adds Marco?
Old 25-11-2006, 09:41 PM
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yes mate it is
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Porkie


hows the box going still going strong



marco
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Originally Posted by marco polo
Porkie


hows the box going still going strong



marco
was that an upski marco?
Old 08-01-2007, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Originally Posted by marco polo
Porkie


hows the box going still going strong



marco
was that an upski marco?




yes for us it good to get a bit of feed back



on a good product

marco
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i had wondered where this thread had dissapeared too, nice to have a reread of it again
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very good read and very interesting


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