new 4wd uprated gearbox and uprated viscous lsd
#1
new 4wd uprated gearbox and uprated viscous lsd
Hi peeps
i posted on here about this gearbox last yr and after long last of waiting the gearbox is ready now ready it's fully big tooth box with brand new layshalfts/ gears /syncros the only thing that is not new is the casing
I have found someone to test it but he doesn't know yet he will tonight tho
lets hope it can sort the problems out for the 4wd drive boys who dont want full dog boxes basically an up rated road box for fast road and track it is going in a 440bhp/with 390ftlbs 4wd car
basically the box is MT75 Transmission Symcromesh Big Tooth Gearset
Drop Gears 3.9 and 4.4
Hy-Vo Chain
Uprate centre Vc From 60Nm to 150Nm
after the testing is done and it works.. i'll get some more untis made up
lets hope it works
i'll be getting some 9" crown wheel and pinions made up all different ratios included 3.62 /3.9/4.1/4.4 /5.1
and some brand new 7.5 crownwheels and pinions made also 3.6/3.9/4.1/ 4.4/5.1 all brand new and brand new metal
i'll keep you lot posted
cheers Marco
i posted on here about this gearbox last yr and after long last of waiting the gearbox is ready now ready it's fully big tooth box with brand new layshalfts/ gears /syncros the only thing that is not new is the casing
I have found someone to test it but he doesn't know yet he will tonight tho
lets hope it can sort the problems out for the 4wd drive boys who dont want full dog boxes basically an up rated road box for fast road and track it is going in a 440bhp/with 390ftlbs 4wd car
basically the box is MT75 Transmission Symcromesh Big Tooth Gearset
Drop Gears 3.9 and 4.4
Hy-Vo Chain
Uprate centre Vc From 60Nm to 150Nm
after the testing is done and it works.. i'll get some more untis made up
lets hope it works
i'll be getting some 9" crown wheel and pinions made up all different ratios included 3.62 /3.9/4.1/4.4 /5.1
and some brand new 7.5 crownwheels and pinions made also 3.6/3.9/4.1/ 4.4/5.1 all brand new and brand new metal
i'll keep you lot posted
cheers Marco
#2
i'll be getting all different 7/7.5 /9" diffs done
7.5" Rear CWP 3.62,3.9,4.4 and 5.1 spec
Uprate 7.5" Rear Vc for better handling and traction-240Nm
7.5" heavy duty bevel gear set
4wd rear diffs
7" Rear CWP 3.1,3.62,3.9,4.1,4.4 and 4.4 spec
Uprate 7" vc unit-180Nm
heavy duty gear set
AVAILIABLE VERY SHORTLY 9" DIFFS
BRAND NEW 9" CASINGS BEING MADE AS WE SPEAK
9" Motorsport Spec CWP -3.62,4.1,4.4,4.6,4.8 and 5.1
Uprate Vc unit From 100Nm to 900Nm,Circuit Racing recommened 600Nm
Xtrac 9" Plated diffs with Various Ramp Angles
cheers lads
7.5" Rear CWP 3.62,3.9,4.4 and 5.1 spec
Uprate 7.5" Rear Vc for better handling and traction-240Nm
7.5" heavy duty bevel gear set
4wd rear diffs
7" Rear CWP 3.1,3.62,3.9,4.1,4.4 and 4.4 spec
Uprate 7" vc unit-180Nm
heavy duty gear set
AVAILIABLE VERY SHORTLY 9" DIFFS
BRAND NEW 9" CASINGS BEING MADE AS WE SPEAK
9" Motorsport Spec CWP -3.62,4.1,4.4,4.6,4.8 and 5.1
Uprate Vc unit From 100Nm to 900Nm,Circuit Racing recommened 600Nm
Xtrac 9" Plated diffs with Various Ramp Angles
cheers lads
#7
2Evos & 1 Escort Van :-)
iTrader: (59)
Who is the willing volunteer / test dummy I wonder....
Needs to be someone with the ability to break a Cosworth part at a thousand paces.....
The ability in fact to break two cars on one day maybe.....
Perhaps even the sheer skill and talent to wreck 2 4x4 boxes in 2 weeks.....
Or perhaps just someone stupid enough to try running 440bhp through standard 4wd transmission, while ragging the tits off it on track.....
The kind of numpty who finishes a Ł3k engine build the day before he sets off to the Nurburgring for some running in.....
Surely noone is that stupid / destructive?
Must be the ultimate test in that case....sounds like if it can be broken it will be broken.
Or maybe just maybe it will be up to the job, not cost Ł2k plus, and everyone will buy millions of them, making Marco a rich man...
I hope so
Si
Needs to be someone with the ability to break a Cosworth part at a thousand paces.....
The ability in fact to break two cars on one day maybe.....
Perhaps even the sheer skill and talent to wreck 2 4x4 boxes in 2 weeks.....
Or perhaps just someone stupid enough to try running 440bhp through standard 4wd transmission, while ragging the tits off it on track.....
The kind of numpty who finishes a Ł3k engine build the day before he sets off to the Nurburgring for some running in.....
Surely noone is that stupid / destructive?
Must be the ultimate test in that case....sounds like if it can be broken it will be broken.
Or maybe just maybe it will be up to the job, not cost Ł2k plus, and everyone will buy millions of them, making Marco a rich man...
I hope so
Si
Trending Topics
#8
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (3)
Originally Posted by SiB
Who is the willing volunteer / test dummy I wonder....
Needs to be someone with the ability to break a Cosworth part at a thousand paces.....
The ability in fact to break two cars on one day maybe.....
Perhaps even the sheer skill and talent to wreck 2 4x4 boxes in 2 weeks.....
Or perhaps just someone stupid enough to try running 440bhp through standard 4wd transmission, while ragging the tits off it on track.....
The kind of numpty who finishes a Ł3k engine build the day before he sets off to the Nurburgring for some running in.....
Surely noone is that stupid / destructive?
Must be the ultimate test in that case....sounds like if it can be broken it will be broken.
Or maybe just maybe it will be up to the job, not cost Ł2k plus, and everyone will buy millions of them, making Marco a rich man...
I hope so
Si
Needs to be someone with the ability to break a Cosworth part at a thousand paces.....
The ability in fact to break two cars on one day maybe.....
Perhaps even the sheer skill and talent to wreck 2 4x4 boxes in 2 weeks.....
Or perhaps just someone stupid enough to try running 440bhp through standard 4wd transmission, while ragging the tits off it on track.....
The kind of numpty who finishes a Ł3k engine build the day before he sets off to the Nurburgring for some running in.....
Surely noone is that stupid / destructive?
Must be the ultimate test in that case....sounds like if it can be broken it will be broken.
Or maybe just maybe it will be up to the job, not cost Ł2k plus, and everyone will buy millions of them, making Marco a rich man...
I hope so
Si
Go for it Si......
You are the new timothy tester........
#10
2Evos & 1 Escort Van :-)
iTrader: (59)
Originally Posted by kjc300
Under 2k would be good!!!
I actually don't know the price, but I'm sure knowing Marco it ain't gonna be mega bucks, it will be the right price....
#11
20K+ Super Poster.
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Essex... and Birmingham!
Posts: 21,512
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: new 4wd uprated gearbox and uprated viscous lsd
Originally Posted by marco polo
lets hope it can sort the problems out for the 4wd drive boys who dont want full dog boxes basically an up rated road box for fast road and track it is going in a 440bhp/with 390ftlbs 4wd car
Quaife, Doughty, DOME, R+D and recently now Fixit all make these gearkits. So what makes this different Marco?
Its got to be one of three things to be be anything new.
1. Cheap
2. Much faster changing
3. Indestructable
Is it any of these?
Hope so
#12
10K+ Poster!!
Indestructable ?? Now that would be impressive
I'll have 2 thanks.
Pisstaking aside though it does sounds like it could be a good option for people not wanting to spend loads of money on the running gear as long as it gives the results.
I'll have 2 thanks.
Pisstaking aside though it does sounds like it could be a good option for people not wanting to spend loads of money on the running gear as long as it gives the results.
#16
Originally Posted by SiB
Who is the willing volunteer / test dummy I wonder....
Needs to be someone with the ability to break a Cosworth part at a thousand paces.....
The ability in fact to break two cars on one day maybe.....
Perhaps even the sheer skill and talent to wreck 2 4x4 boxes in 2 weeks.....
Or perhaps just someone stupid enough to try running 440bhp through standard 4wd transmission, while ragging the tits off it on track.....
The kind of numpty who finishes a Ł3k engine build the day before he sets off to the Nurburgring for some running in.....
Surely noone is that stupid / destructive?
Must be the ultimate test in that case....sounds like if it can be broken it will be broken.
Or maybe just maybe it will be up to the job, not cost Ł2k plus, and everyone will buy millions of them, making Marco a rich man...
I hope so
Si
Needs to be someone with the ability to break a Cosworth part at a thousand paces.....
The ability in fact to break two cars on one day maybe.....
Perhaps even the sheer skill and talent to wreck 2 4x4 boxes in 2 weeks.....
Or perhaps just someone stupid enough to try running 440bhp through standard 4wd transmission, while ragging the tits off it on track.....
The kind of numpty who finishes a Ł3k engine build the day before he sets off to the Nurburgring for some running in.....
Surely noone is that stupid / destructive?
Must be the ultimate test in that case....sounds like if it can be broken it will be broken.
Or maybe just maybe it will be up to the job, not cost Ł2k plus, and everyone will buy millions of them, making Marco a rich man...
I hope so
Si
Si
yes it's to you and free of charge you will have the box tomorrow night mate
all i want you to do is bed it in first give it a few 100mile thats it
pete
i will mate ,if the box works no problem at all i will be come a trader on the boxes and diff i undesrtand where your coming from as you have paid full traders membership however atleat give me a chance to see if the box works please you never know you might need one at some point for one of your customers
porkie
it's just a big tooth gearbox it will be cheaper than quaife/fixit/r+d
it's just basically an uprated box and i'll do it as cheap as possible for Rs owners
how long have you know me i'm not going to big up something if it's not going to work thats why i what a test tube baby
at the end of the day i have bent over backwards to get this box made for the peeps that want an uprated box without paying over the odds
I know Si car is 440bhp so that would be a good start to see what happens
if it works it works if it doesn't then i have wasted my time
marco
#17
Re: new 4wd uprated gearbox and uprated viscous lsd
Originally Posted by Porkie
Originally Posted by marco polo
lets hope it can sort the problems out for the 4wd drive boys who dont want full dog boxes basically an up rated road box for fast road and track it is going in a 440bhp/with 390ftlbs 4wd car
Quaife, Doughty, DOME, R+D and recently now Fixit all make these gearkits. So what makes this different Marco?
Its got to be one of three things to be be anything new.
1. Cheap
2. Much faster changing
3. Indestructable
Is it any of these?
Hope so
porkie
1 cheap= ,yes it's cheaper
2,Much faster changing = wont know yet
3,Indestructable = not sure yet i want to find out at what bhp it goes pop @ so i can say it's rated at so much XXX bhp
i think a 440bhp/390ftlbs sould be a good test and if it can withstand that power i might put it in yours as see free off charge of course
Marco
#24
Originally Posted by fiesta cossie
Will this box be tested on hard lauches or just road/track?
to be honest it will be tested on track first
at the end of the day it's big tooth box , first gear and reverse gear will remain standard as in standard pattern only
first and reverse are made in better matrial and alot stronger than the standard gears
i would rather the box do the talking not myself , what else can i say about it....... only give it a chance to see what it's like atleast i having it tested what more can i do
Marco
#25
2Evos & 1 Escort Van :-)
iTrader: (59)
Originally Posted by marco polo
Originally Posted by SiB
Who is the willing volunteer / test dummy I wonder....
Needs to be someone with the ability to break a Cosworth part at a thousand paces.....
The ability in fact to break two cars on one day maybe.....
Perhaps even the sheer skill and talent to wreck 2 4x4 boxes in 2 weeks.....
Or perhaps just someone stupid enough to try running 440bhp through standard 4wd transmission, while ragging the tits off it on track.....
The kind of numpty who finishes a Ł3k engine build the day before he sets off to the Nurburgring for some running in.....
Surely noone is that stupid / destructive?
Must be the ultimate test in that case....sounds like if it can be broken it will be broken.
Or maybe just maybe it will be up to the job, not cost Ł2k plus, and everyone will buy millions of them, making Marco a rich man...
I hope so
Si
Needs to be someone with the ability to break a Cosworth part at a thousand paces.....
The ability in fact to break two cars on one day maybe.....
Perhaps even the sheer skill and talent to wreck 2 4x4 boxes in 2 weeks.....
Or perhaps just someone stupid enough to try running 440bhp through standard 4wd transmission, while ragging the tits off it on track.....
The kind of numpty who finishes a Ł3k engine build the day before he sets off to the Nurburgring for some running in.....
Surely noone is that stupid / destructive?
Must be the ultimate test in that case....sounds like if it can be broken it will be broken.
Or maybe just maybe it will be up to the job, not cost Ł2k plus, and everyone will buy millions of them, making Marco a rich man...
I hope so
Si
Si
yes it's to you and free of charge you will have the box tomorrow night mate
all i want you to do is bed it in first give it a few 100mile thats it
pete
i will mate ,if the box works no problem at all i will be come a trader on the boxes and diff i undesrtand where your coming from as you have paid full traders membership however atleat give me a chance to see if the box works please you never know you might need one at some point for one of your customers
porkie
it's just a big tooth gearbox it will be cheaper than quaife/fixit/r+d
it's just basically an uprated box and i'll do it as cheap as possible for Rs owners
how long have you know me i'm not going to big up something if it's not going to work thats why i what a test tube baby
at the end of the day i have bent over backwards to get this box made for the peeps that want an uprated box without paying over the odds
I know Si car is 440bhp so that would be a good start to see what happens
if it works it works if it doesn't then i have wasted my time
marco
Thanks very very muchly - I hope I can prove the efforts you have made.
No launches to start with, and no full boost until everyone's happy. No point dumping full power off the 1st traffic light Grand Prix only to come back on here and say it's crap.
I'll test it so we can find where the breaking point is! But would like to see it do some miles before that happens!
I've got a track day this weekend at Castle Combe - will that be the sort of running in you're after
I'll get the box in for Thurs eve road testing and report back my findings as and when they happen
Si
#26
Almost there!
iTrader: (4)
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Gatwick (ish)
Posts: 7,434
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Marco, hope you hard work and time pays off.
would be a good achievment if all goes well.... and dependant on price then i could be adding myself to your list!
I think Si and his car are a good starting point for the testing, a healthy power figure to test its capabilitys and strengths.
its also good to know your looking at opening the options up with the different ratio's which will certainly suit myself as im currently on 3.9 step offs and 3.9 rear diff - both of which have broken at some point on the 400ish bhp i was running, let alone the hopefull 500 i should be seeing when its completed again by spring!
Keep the updates regular Marco/Si
would be a good achievment if all goes well.... and dependant on price then i could be adding myself to your list!
I think Si and his car are a good starting point for the testing, a healthy power figure to test its capabilitys and strengths.
its also good to know your looking at opening the options up with the different ratio's which will certainly suit myself as im currently on 3.9 step offs and 3.9 rear diff - both of which have broken at some point on the 400ish bhp i was running, let alone the hopefull 500 i should be seeing when its completed again by spring!
Keep the updates regular Marco/Si
#28
Originally Posted by SiB
Originally Posted by marco polo
Originally Posted by SiB
Who is the willing volunteer / test dummy I wonder....
Needs to be someone with the ability to break a Cosworth part at a thousand paces.....
The ability in fact to break two cars on one day maybe.....
Perhaps even the sheer skill and talent to wreck 2 4x4 boxes in 2 weeks.....
Or perhaps just someone stupid enough to try running 440bhp through standard 4wd transmission, while ragging the tits off it on track.....
The kind of numpty who finishes a Ł3k engine build the day before he sets off to the Nurburgring for some running in.....
Surely noone is that stupid / destructive?
Must be the ultimate test in that case....sounds like if it can be broken it will be broken.
Or maybe just maybe it will be up to the job, not cost Ł2k plus, and everyone will buy millions of them, making Marco a rich man...
I hope so
Si
Needs to be someone with the ability to break a Cosworth part at a thousand paces.....
The ability in fact to break two cars on one day maybe.....
Perhaps even the sheer skill and talent to wreck 2 4x4 boxes in 2 weeks.....
Or perhaps just someone stupid enough to try running 440bhp through standard 4wd transmission, while ragging the tits off it on track.....
The kind of numpty who finishes a Ł3k engine build the day before he sets off to the Nurburgring for some running in.....
Surely noone is that stupid / destructive?
Must be the ultimate test in that case....sounds like if it can be broken it will be broken.
Or maybe just maybe it will be up to the job, not cost Ł2k plus, and everyone will buy millions of them, making Marco a rich man...
I hope so
Si
Si
yes it's to you and free of charge you will have the box tomorrow night mate
all i want you to do is bed it in first give it a few 100mile thats it
pete
i will mate ,if the box works no problem at all i will be come a trader on the boxes and diff i undesrtand where your coming from as you have paid full traders membership however atleat give me a chance to see if the box works please you never know you might need one at some point for one of your customers
porkie
it's just a big tooth gearbox it will be cheaper than quaife/fixit/r+d
it's just basically an uprated box and i'll do it as cheap as possible for Rs owners
how long have you know me i'm not going to big up something if it's not going to work thats why i what a test tube baby
at the end of the day i have bent over backwards to get this box made for the peeps that want an uprated box without paying over the odds
I know Si car is 440bhp so that would be a good start to see what happens
if it works it works if it doesn't then i have wasted my time
marco
Thanks very very muchly - I hope I can prove the efforts you have made.
No launches to start with, and no full boost until everyone's happy. No point dumping full power off the 1st traffic light Grand Prix only to come back on here and say it's crap.
I'll test it so we can find where the breaking point is! But would like to see it do some miles before that happens!
I've got a track day this weekend at Castle Combe - will that be the sort of running in you're after
I'll get the box in for Thurs eve road testing and report back my findings as and when they happen
Si
Hi Si
no probs please bed it in thats all i ask i'm not botherd what you do after that
marco
#31
Originally Posted by Kelv
Marco, hope you hard work and time pays off.
would be a good achievment if all goes well.... and dependant on price then i could be adding myself to your list!
I think Si and his car are a good starting point for the testing, a healthy power figure to test its capabilitys and strengths.
its also good to know your looking at opening the options up with the different ratio's which will certainly suit myself as im currently on 3.9 step offs and 3.9 rear diff - both of which have broken at some point on the 400ish bhp i was running, let alone the hopefull 500 i should be seeing when its completed again by spring!
Keep the updates regular Marco/Si
would be a good achievment if all goes well.... and dependant on price then i could be adding myself to your list!
I think Si and his car are a good starting point for the testing, a healthy power figure to test its capabilitys and strengths.
its also good to know your looking at opening the options up with the different ratio's which will certainly suit myself as im currently on 3.9 step offs and 3.9 rear diff - both of which have broken at some point on the 400ish bhp i was running, let alone the hopefull 500 i should be seeing when its completed again by spring!
Keep the updates regular Marco/Si
thanks mate i hope it works out toooooo
as for the price it will be as cheap as i can possible do it , i'm not in to make a killing or rip peeps off i just want a product to do what it says on the can if it works then sound, all i would have to do is put a rating on the box rated @ such and such bhp
If the box is good and can withstand 440 bhp /390 ftlbs test
i will be looking for another test tube baby with a 500+ 4wd car escort/seirra
or even a rally car with loads of low down torque
cheers Marco
#32
Almost there!
iTrader: (4)
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Gatwick (ish)
Posts: 7,434
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by marco polo
Originally Posted by Kelv
Marco, hope you hard work and time pays off.
would be a good achievment if all goes well.... and dependant on price then i could be adding myself to your list!
I think Si and his car are a good starting point for the testing, a healthy power figure to test its capabilitys and strengths.
its also good to know your looking at opening the options up with the different ratio's which will certainly suit myself as im currently on 3.9 step offs and 3.9 rear diff - both of which have broken at some point on the 400ish bhp i was running, let alone the hopefull 500 i should be seeing when its completed again by spring!
Keep the updates regular Marco/Si
would be a good achievment if all goes well.... and dependant on price then i could be adding myself to your list!
I think Si and his car are a good starting point for the testing, a healthy power figure to test its capabilitys and strengths.
its also good to know your looking at opening the options up with the different ratio's which will certainly suit myself as im currently on 3.9 step offs and 3.9 rear diff - both of which have broken at some point on the 400ish bhp i was running, let alone the hopefull 500 i should be seeing when its completed again by spring!
Keep the updates regular Marco/Si
thanks mate i hope it works out toooooo
as for the price it will be as cheap as i can possible do it , i'm not in to make a killing or rip peeps off i just want a product to do what it says on the can if it works then sound, all i would have to do is put a rating on the box rated @ such and such bhp
If the box is good and can withstand 440 bhp /390 ftlbs test
i will be looking for another test tube baby with a 500+ 4wd car escort/seirra
cheers Marco
would be happy to have the car where ever you need it for whtever you need it for on a testing side of things!!
thats if you'd feel comfortable with myself offering my hands/car etc.
i will be doing the odd track days here and there, similar to Si i guess.
Car wont be back on the road until feb/march next year depending on your time scales - and due to everything coming together perfectly with Mark Shead etc
Kelv
#35
2Evos & 1 Escort Van :-)
iTrader: (59)
Originally Posted by marco polo
Hi kel
all i would have to do to the box is change the spep off gear to a 3.9 for your car as the one Si will have tonight has a normal 3.6
see how it goes in Si first it might just pop don't know yet
marco
all i would have to do to the box is change the spep off gear to a 3.9 for your car as the one Si will have tonight has a normal 3.6
see how it goes in Si first it might just pop don't know yet
marco
Gearbox is out... and Doug is on his way to you as we speak to collect the box (was on the M5 about 30 mins ago).
Shouldn't you be out meeting him somewhere?!!! Or was he heading direct to you?
"It might just pop".... we'll see!
I'm keen to give it a thorough testing - so if you need some abuse / launching / 1/4s etc done I'm there....
Can you drop me a PM with the bedding in process you want me to follow? Want to do things exactly by the book so to speak, to give it a fair chance.
Si
#36
Almost there!
iTrader: (4)
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Gatwick (ish)
Posts: 7,434
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by marco polo
Hi kel
all i would have to do to the box is change the spep off gear to a 3.9 for your car as the one Si will have tonight has a normal 3.6
see how it goes in Si first it might just pop don't know yet
marco
all i would have to do to the box is change the spep off gear to a 3.9 for your car as the one Si will have tonight has a normal 3.6
see how it goes in Si first it might just pop don't know yet
marco
Sounds good Marco
im sure Si will 'test it' properly
Slightly off subject - are you still able to supply those rear beam mounts i had before?
#37
Originally Posted by Kelv
Originally Posted by marco polo
Hi kel
all i would have to do to the box is change the spep off gear to a 3.9 for your car as the one Si will have tonight has a normal 3.6
see how it goes in Si first it might just pop don't know yet
marco
all i would have to do to the box is change the spep off gear to a 3.9 for your car as the one Si will have tonight has a normal 3.6
see how it goes in Si first it might just pop don't know yet
marco
Sounds good Marco
im sure Si will 'test it' properly
Slightly off subject - are you still able to supply those rear beam mounts i had before?
kelv
I have got a new name for the box if it works because everyone takes the piss out of my hair i will call it the MULLIT BOX
sorry getting back on to the subject about the ream beam mounts
i haven't got any at the min but i can always get some more made up
and this time i will have the center bits i think you had the set without the centers sorry about that i'll trow you in an extra pair of centers
have you fitted them on the car ? if you have how did you find them they are not as bad as peeps think i think they work very well on my motor the beam feels like part of the car
#39
Originally Posted by markk
Originally Posted by marco polo
or even a rally car with loads of low down torque
cheers Marco
loving the 'MULLIT BOX' --- total classic
for phase2 yes i would be very greatfull for you to test it if everything goes well for Simon if not then it's back to the drawing board
Marco