Whats the max can a T34.48 can realistically make?
02-09-2006, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by pete mcrash
all the lad fookin asked was wot power,it would have been better if he stated injectors aswell,but i can tell u my car made 357bhp and 340lbs on the rollers t34.48 greens (803's) M.S.D chip + setup,so with l blues (or whatever) it must be more..... just the facts boys!!!!!! 
If the greens are providing enough fuel for the air consumed then why would bigger injectors make more power?
You do realise that (from a correct AFR) more fuel and the same airflow will equal LESS power do you?
02-09-2006, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by CossieRich
Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by pete mcrash
all the lad fookin asked was wot power,it would have been better if he stated injectors aswell,but i can tell u my car made 357bhp and 340lbs on the rollers t34.48 greens (803's) M.S.D chip + setup,so with l blues (or whatever) it must be more..... just the facts boys!!!!!!
If the greens are providing enough fuel for the air consumed then why would bigger injectors make more power?
You do realise that (from a correct AFR) more fuel and the same airflow will equal LESS power do you?
02-09-2006, 12:04 PM
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cause hes running a bigger turbo
what chip is trying to explain is that if a t34 with .48 cant do over 26psi at high revs then fitting bigger injectors wont help that,,,,, if you add more fuel to that boost you will lose power to a point
but then i also remember my cossie was holding 26.5psi to the limiter and that ran lean after 6300 in 4th and 5th gear i was told so i would have made more power top end with blues
but as i never drove past 140 in the car ever there was no fooking point
not to mention everyone says i change gear like a mini cab driver so never hit 6krpm when booting it
what chip is trying to explain is that if a t34 with .48 cant do over 26psi at high revs then fitting bigger injectors wont help that,,,,, if you add more fuel to that boost you will lose power to a point
but then i also remember my cossie was holding 26.5psi to the limiter and that ran lean after 6300 in 4th and 5th gear i was told so i would have made more power top end with blues
but as i never drove past 140 in the car ever there was no fooking point
not to mention everyone says i change gear like a mini cab driver so never hit 6krpm when booting it
02-09-2006, 12:11 PM
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pete mcrash you are talking shite!
you are saying that because an injector has a higher flow rate,that as soon as it's added to an engine the power increases?
if you add light blues to a greens spec map the power will drop,as chip says above! as well as running shite.
power increases as the AFR goes lean,and drops as it richens!
but just beacuse a car has greys over greens does not necessarily mean it's more powerful,in fact i know of one car running 300bhp on greys....it just all depends how the car is mapped/setup
if it's running fine and the injector is not maxed out,then there is no reason to increase the injector size to gain power!
you are saying that because an injector has a higher flow rate,that as soon as it's added to an engine the power increases?
if you add light blues to a greens spec map the power will drop,as chip says above! as well as running shite.
power increases as the AFR goes lean,and drops as it richens!
but just beacuse a car has greys over greens does not necessarily mean it's more powerful,in fact i know of one car running 300bhp on greys....it just all depends how the car is mapped/setup
if it's running fine and the injector is not maxed out,then there is no reason to increase the injector size to gain power!
02-09-2006, 12:21 PM
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ooh bud-shiter he asked what power..... so i told him what i made on greens....my pal on light blues (different map,DERR!!!) made more get out ov each others arses and stop being COCKY OVER THE KEYPAD..... cheers,luv n peice 2 everyone
02-09-2006, 12:28 PM
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tbh be fair to pete hes not talking shite, you lot are just assuming stuff and going from there
with a ported head/cams and .48 t34 the green injectors are maxed out !!!!!
or they was on mine meaning u could have ran more boost on blues ect
you lot are just assuming hes refering to 26psi and just slap greys in the car
you aint beeing fair to him being honest
with a ported head/cams and .48 t34 the green injectors are maxed out !!!!!
or they was on mine meaning u could have ran more boost on blues ect
you lot are just assuming hes refering to 26psi and just slap greys in the car
you aint beeing fair to him being honest
02-09-2006, 12:34 PM
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sorry 4 all this Porkie,just trying 2 answer ya ???????,but az we all know,nothing goes smoothly on ere,better off asking Mike R he's got a big book on this type ov stuff
02-09-2006, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by b19bal
tbh be fair to pete hes not talking shite, you lot are just assuming stuff and going from there
with a ported head/cams and .48 t34 the green injectors are maxed out !!!!!
or they was on mine meaning u could have ran more boost on blues ect
you lot are just assuming hes refering to 26psi and just slap greys in the car
you aint beeing fair to him being honest
with a ported head/cams and .48 t34 the green injectors are maxed out !!!!!
or they was on mine meaning u could have ran more boost on blues ect
you lot are just assuming hes refering to 26psi and just slap greys in the car
you aint beeing fair to him being honest
02-09-2006, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Andreas
Some years ago I asked Harvey about the Duty Cycle setting and if understood him correctly it wont display correctly on a L8, needs a P8 for a correct figure of Duty Cycle.
02-09-2006, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by reality
You see it start to drop off at 5000rpm though.. turbo just cant hold the boost up there.. back pressure?
02-09-2006, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug Stirling
Originally Posted by reality
You see it start to drop off at 5000rpm though.. turbo just cant hold the boost up there.. back pressure?
02-09-2006, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by pete mcrash
Originally Posted by CossieRich
Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by pete mcrash
all the lad fookin asked was wot power,it would have been better if he stated injectors aswell,but i can tell u my car made 357bhp and 340lbs on the rollers t34.48 greens (803's) M.S.D chip + setup,so with l blues (or whatever) it must be more..... just the facts boys!!!!!!
If the greens are providing enough fuel for the air consumed then why would bigger injectors make more power?
You do realise that (from a correct AFR) more fuel and the same airflow will equal LESS power do you?
02-09-2006, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by reality
............... not quite sure how you work that out to 'becoming very efficient'
03-09-2006, 09:34 AM
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cossie rich/bitch....so bigger is better then....if you had just read wot i posted, none ov this shit would have happened...p.s weetabix not cornflacks
03-09-2006, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Doubt it all you like, but it was sufficient to do 172mph on four greens. The black-stuff doesn't lie 
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.The green mondeo was a quick car for what it had at the time on (t34)
03-09-2006, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by pete mcrash
cossie rich/bitch....so bigger is better then....if you had just read wot i posted, none ov this shit would have happened...p.s weetabix not cornflacks
The ONLY time there is any point going to bigger injectors is if you run more boost too, thats why your mate is making more power than you, he is making more boost at the top end than you are.
03-09-2006, 11:36 AM
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what the fook iz going on....???? i never questioned fookin AFR readings.... i just stated my power figures on greens.. my pal runs l/blues (so do i now) and he runs more boost (and power),different map, yes, thats it.... r u all sniffing GLUE or something, just trying to give the lad some figures thats all. no wonder dingy calls everyone to55ers,when u just start assuming shit i havn't said
03-09-2006, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by pete mcrash
what the fook iz going on....???? i never questioned fookin AFR readings.... i just stated my power figures on greens.. my pal runs l/blues (so do i now) and he runs more boost (and power),different map, yes, thats it.... r u all sniffing GLUE or something, just trying to give the lad some figures thats all. no wonder dingy calls everyone to55ers,when u just start assuming shit i havn't said
03-09-2006, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by pete mcrash
cossie rich/bitch....so bigger is better then....if you had just read wot i posted, none ov this shit would have happened...p.s weetabix not cornflacks
03-09-2006, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by pete mcrash
all the lad fookin asked was wot power,it would have been better if he stated injectors aswell,but i can tell u my car made 357bhp and 340lbs on the rollers t34.48 greens (803's) M.S.D chip + setup,so with l blues (or whatever) it must be more..... just the facts boys!!!!!!
04-09-2006, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Doubt it all you like, but it was sufficient to do 172mph on four greens. The black-stuff doesn't lie .
. ).Reality,
The reason for the boost tailing off is due to the engine become more efficient than the turbo at high rpm and it is therefore consuming everything the turbo can provide and then some, so the boost tails off.
04-09-2006, 10:56 AM
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so....... i run a t34.48 , 7.2:1 cr, at the mo running standard cams, 500 cooler, flowed head, Stu's closed loop stage 3 chip, what should i do next for more power im bored!!!
so....... i run a t34.48 , 7.2:1 cr, at the mo running standard cams, 500 cooler, flowed head, Stu's closed loop stage 3 chip, what should i do next for more power im bored!!!
04-09-2006, 11:02 AM
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best bet is to speak to you're tuner...but bigger turbo,inlet cam,big fat injectors,re-map......but then the transmision shits its self,so where do u stop...???? the choice is yours
04-09-2006, 11:02 AM
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i really want to keep the .48, it is really good for road use, and round town where i use it most, the pistons wernt pocketed when i had them dished 
but i may be able to run a bd14, as the dish comes out quite far on the surface of the piston, would have to do a dummy build....... wouldnt greys need a live map?
but i may be able to run a bd14, as the dish comes out quite far on the surface of the piston, would have to do a dummy build....... wouldnt greys need a live map?
04-09-2006, 11:05 AM
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i wouldnt reckomend using a bd14 without pockets tbh. Greys dont need a live map. I'm still on the L6 which obviously cant me live mapped.
see here JTech:
https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=200163
see here JTech:
https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=200163