Whats the max can a T34.48 can realistically make?
31-08-2006, 01:49 PM
#42
It IS only open at 2°, it is idling FFS 
.
The 95% duty cycle is on the top lines (FF). I can't remember exactly from what point, as it is 8 years ago, but at high rpm everything was FF.
However, the Pectel monitor recognises the coding and so displays the duty cycle of the injectors at their most open point
, so that you can see that on this map it is 95%.
It displays this at what-ever throttle position.
I think you're getting confused with injector open time (ms).
As this IS throttle angle dependent.
.The 95% duty cycle is on the top lines (FF). I can't remember exactly from what point, as it is 8 years ago, but at high rpm everything was FF
.However, the Pectel monitor recognises the coding and so displays the duty cycle of the injectors at their most open point
, so that you can see that on this map it is 95%.It displays this at what-ever throttle position
.I think you're getting confused with injector open time (ms).
As this IS throttle angle dependent.
31-08-2006, 01:55 PM
#43
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
It IS only open at 2°, it is idling FFS .
The 95% duty cycle is on the top lines (FF). I can't remember exactly from what point, as it is 8 years ago, but at high rpm everything was FF.
However, the Pectel monitor recognises the coding and so displays the duty cycle of the injectors at their most open point, so that you can see that on this map it is 95%.
It displays this at what-ever throttle position.
I think you're getting confused with injector open time (ms).
.The 95% duty cycle is on the top lines (FF). I can't remember exactly from what point, as it is 8 years ago, but at high rpm everything was FF
.However, the Pectel monitor recognises the coding and so displays the duty cycle of the injectors at their most open point
, so that you can see that on this map it is 95%.It displays this at what-ever throttle position
.I think you're getting confused with injector open time (ms).
Mike, he was taking the 2 degrees to mean it was at 2 degrees and was still putting in 95% at that point
31-08-2006, 01:55 PM
#44
Originally Posted by Stavros
Genuinley no difference?
Noticably more top end?
Noticably more top end?
It does hold onto the boost longer than the .48 but by how much i cant say because im too busy concentrating on the road
31-08-2006, 02:02 PM
#47
Actually, I have just learned something new . I ALWAYS thought that that was injector duty cycle, but I have just been reliably informed (thanks Stu ), that the duty cycle displayed on the Pectel monitor, is in fact for the boost valve 
. I always thought it was injector duty cycle . Therefore, I have no idea what my 803s were running -All I remember is they were FF everywhere on the top lines - Stu could help me out again what that would equate to ?
. I ALWAYS thought that that was injector duty cycle, but I have just been reliably informed (thanks Stu ), that the duty cycle displayed on the Pectel monitor, is in fact for the boost valve . I always thought it was injector duty cycle . Therefore, I have no idea what my 803s were running -All I remember is they were FF everywhere on the top lines - Stu could help me out again what that would equate to ?
31-08-2006, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by CossieRich
Why is it labelled duty cycle if its showing reading for the boost valve 
31-08-2006, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Actually, I have just learned something new . I ALWAYS thought that that was injector duty cycle, but I have just been reliably informed (thanks Stu ), that the duty cycle displayed on the Pectel monitor, is in fact for the boost valve . I always thought it was injector duty cycle . Therefore, I have no idea what my 803s were running All I remember is they were FF everywhere on the top lines - Stu could help me out again what that would equate to ?
. I ALWAYS thought that that was injector duty cycle, but I have just been reliably informed (thanks Stu ), that the duty cycle displayed on the Pectel monitor, is in fact for the boost valve . I always thought it was injector duty cycle . Therefore, I have no idea what my 803s were running All I remember is they were FF everywhere on the top lines - Stu could help me out again what that would equate to ?
impossible to say what 255 equates to in the map although normally its around 16ms +multiplyers on a green base.
Its impossible to say as its subject to the following multiplyers.
WOT
Battery voltage Multiplyer
Coolant Multiplyer
Air temp multiplyer
And a few more accessible by all.
Not to mention another 10+ multiplyers most tuners wont have access to at all such as injector scaling and map value scaling.
31-08-2006, 02:12 PM
#54
Originally Posted by Doug Stirling
Originally Posted by CossieRich
Why is it labelled duty cycle if its showing reading for the boost valve
31-08-2006, 02:15 PM
#56
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Phil,
I'm sure I was when I first got the monitor 12 years ago - I've always though it was injector duty cycle.
Next time I'm out in the car, I'm going to check it though, as obviously it should fluctuate with the boost curve
.
I'm sure I was when I first got the monitor 12 years ago - I've always though it was injector duty cycle
.Next time I'm out in the car, I'm going to check it though, as obviously it should fluctuate with the boost curve
. But i am very confident i am not. And yes, the value will normally lower with boost pressure. The reading displayed does not alter with air injectors added and configured, so always reads high off boost, as per the bleed off method.
31-08-2006, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Good old Mike R, always trying wriggle and squirm out of being wrong and blaming others wherever possible .
31-08-2006, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
..come to mention it i remember you told me your moniter showed duty cycle for injectors when i drobve it that time So had you best tell Billabong or did he know?
So had you best tell Billabong or did he know?
31-08-2006, 05:47 PM
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I run a T34 .48 on a Harvey Gibbs engine (complete spec as yet unknown) but allegedly the turbo has been fiddled with in some way, light blues, L8, genuine 500 i/c, 2 bar of boost dropping to 1.65 - the previous owner claimed 400 bhp, but I would guesstimate it to be around 380 ish, maybe 400 if I up the boost (which allegedly it used to run).
Not proven as yet on rollers, but thinking of doing it soon though to see what it really makes.
The car does go like stink, and people are astounded by how much punch it has for the spec, so who knows?!
Rammer Rainbird knows the car from old and has been in it in the last couple of years, so maybe he could comment?
Not proven as yet on rollers, but thinking of doing it soon though to see what it really makes.
The car does go like stink, and people are astounded by how much punch it has for the spec, so who knows?!
Rammer Rainbird knows the car from old and has been in it in the last couple of years, so maybe he could comment?
01-09-2006, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by Billabong
Mike, what are your dipswitch settings?
Mike does the one you have look like this:
01-09-2006, 09:51 AM
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Some years ago I asked Harvey about the Duty Cycle setting and if understood him correctly it wont display correctly on a L8, needs a P8 for a correct figure of Duty Cycle.
01-09-2006, 10:47 AM
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all the lad fookin asked was wot power,it would have been better if he stated injectors aswell,but i can tell u my car made 357bhp and 340lbs on the rollers t34.48 greens (803's) M.S.D chip + setup,so with l blues (or whatever) it must be more..... just the facts boys!!!!!! 
01-09-2006, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by pete mcrash
all the lad fookin asked was wot power,it would have been better if he stated injectors aswell,but i can tell u my car made 357bhp and 340lbs on the rollers t34.48 greens (803's) M.S.D chip + setup,so with l blues (or whatever) it must be more..... just the facts boys!!!!!!
If the greens are providing enough fuel for the air consumed then why would bigger injectors make more power?
You do realise that (from a correct AFR) more fuel and the same airflow will equal LESS power do you?
01-09-2006, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by pete mcrash
all the lad fookin asked was wot power,it would have been better if he stated injectors aswell,but i can tell u my car made 357bhp and 340lbs on the rollers t34.48 greens (803's) M.S.D chip + setup,so with l blues (or whatever) it must be more..... just the facts boys!!!!!!
If the greens are providing enough fuel for the air consumed then why would bigger injectors make more power?
You do realise that (from a correct AFR) more fuel and the same airflow will equal LESS power do you?
01-09-2006, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CossieRich
Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by pete mcrash
all the lad fookin asked was wot power,it would have been better if he stated injectors aswell,but i can tell u my car made 357bhp and 340lbs on the rollers t34.48 greens (803's) M.S.D chip + setup,so with l blues (or whatever) it must be more..... just the facts boys!!!!!!
If the greens are providing enough fuel for the air consumed then why would bigger injectors make more power?
You do realise that (from a correct AFR) more fuel and the same airflow will equal LESS power do you?