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Old 25-08-2006, 11:53 AM
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This Copper has been let off today for doing 159 mph back in Dec 2003. The appeal judge says he is not going to be prosecuted as he has suffered enough through all the court appearances he has had to go through. My heart bleeds for him. One rule for them one for us comes to mind.

What you lot think?
Old 25-08-2006, 11:54 AM
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fucking disgraceful

91 in a 30.

should be banned and loose his job.
Old 25-08-2006, 11:57 AM
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absolute piss take, couldnt believe it when heard it on news, if that was us book would have been thrown at us, fuckin pisses me off stuff like this
Old 25-08-2006, 11:59 AM
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whats 91 in a 30 got to do with it?

wasn't he doing 159 in a 70?

Personally i don't care tbh, i look at it as say for instance my kids were in danger or something and i needed a copper there quick, if that meant him doing over double the speed limit to get there then so be it.

Now i understand this wasn't a emergancey call and he was just joy-riding to be fair however, i think someone who is experienced with going fast and knows how the car reacts at such speeds is going to be safer behind the wheel doing those speeds in an emergancey situation.
Old 25-08-2006, 12:03 PM
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James.

He got caught doing 91 in a 30, and then 159 on the M54.

thats what its got to go with it.

think 91 in a 30 is much more dangerous than 157 in a 70.
Old 25-08-2006, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan
James.

He got caught doing 91 in a 30, and then 159 on the M54.

thats what its got to go with it.

think 91 in a 30 is much more dangerous than 157 in a 70.
Agreed, being that 70s are ususally wide open motorways where you can see ahead of yourself and read the road. 30s are generally built up areas, with much less peripheral vision and lots more dangers.
Old 25-08-2006, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan
James.

He got caught doing 91 in a 30, and then 159 on the M54.

thats what its got to go with it.

think 91 in a 30 is much more dangerous than 157 in a 70.
not only did he not get fined or anything, he is now appealing against the conviction
Old 25-08-2006, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by James

Now i understand this wasn't a emergancey call and he was just joy-riding to be fair however, i think someone who is experienced with going fast and knows how the car reacts at such speeds is going to be safer behind the wheel doing those speeds in an emergancey situation.

what, he wasnt on an emergency though so lets let racing drivers go as fast as they like
Old 25-08-2006, 12:12 PM
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Oh right, i didn't know that.

Does anyone know where this road actually is [and not the M54] as i know of a few 30limit roads that aren't built up areas/no schools etc where you can happily go alot faster as you can see ahead and know within reason theres no danger ahead. Motorway roadworks for example, providing theres no workers at the side of the road and no other traffic, then whats the problem of speeding?

I'd be really suprised if the 30 limit he wwas speeding in was a built up area/middle of town or something as it sounds like the kind of headline a paper like the sun would come up with and when you start to look at the facts you realise there isn't actually anything that shocking about it.
Old 25-08-2006, 12:12 PM
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159 in a 70
91 in a 30
131 in a 70

at 3am.

How many here have been stopped in the early hours and been prosecuted.

Bang out of order in my view.

Speeding is speeding whoever you are!
Old 25-08-2006, 12:14 PM
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I don't really have a problem with him not being punished, given the time of night, yadda yadda, but its only right that the same rules should apply to all of us.
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Originally Posted by Adrian
159 in a 70
91 in a 30
131 in a 70

at 3am.

How many here have been stopped in the early hours and been prosecuted.

Bang out of order in my view.

Speeding is speeding whoever you are!
Well said Adrian.
Old 25-08-2006, 01:08 PM
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James does it really matter where the fuck it is.

oh its ok to speed on this road because its not built up!

as said

SPEEDING IS SPEEDING!

DRINK DRIVING IS DRINK DRIVING!

there are rules for a reason.
Old 25-08-2006, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan

there are rules for a reason.

Usually because some guy in some office decided "Oh lets put 30 in here and 70 in there"
Old 25-08-2006, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Azrael
Originally Posted by Ryan

there are rules for a reason.

Usually because some guy in some office decided "Oh lets put 30 in here and 70 in there"
Are you insinuating that not every law is logical and well thought out?
Old 25-08-2006, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by dexterc
Originally Posted by Azrael
Originally Posted by Ryan

there are rules for a reason.

Usually because some guy in some office decided "Oh lets put 30 in here and 70 in there"
Are you insinuating that not every law is logical and well thought out?
Exactly.


I personally know a guy who wrote traffic law act and road transport act here in Poland + some smaller regulations and I know how mamny colliding interests have to by satisfied by such law, group of interests etc. Press is bad this days for motorists and everyone is obsessed with safety and ecology - thus speed limits. That's all.


I often have impression reading passionford that you guys have been work on by safety propaganda for far too many years and don't consider those things free of it.


By the way what is the point of owning car faster then Smart if you really obey all those?


Once again - polease consider that I'm strange rally nut from far away country with extremly high car-accident mortality rate and road network similar to that of Britain's in XIX century.
Old 25-08-2006, 02:43 PM
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I was being sarcastic, but you are right, far too many Brits seem to think of the law as being infallible. Mike R posted a TRL (IE Government funded) study a while back showing that 3% of RTA's are due to speed. And on your final point, I really have no idea.
Old 25-08-2006, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dexterc
And on your final point, I really have no idea.

I was picking up '99 Scooby Turbo from Holland recently - it only started to go properly around Dormund, so after ~500km's - > was so used to slow driving. At the same time 7 year old car with 106k km's was like new. Probably never went on boost too
Old 25-08-2006, 02:54 PM
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i was banned for 6 weeks for doing 80mph in a 30mph was trying to hit 90mph in 3rd but hit the limiter @ 80mph (in my old saab turbo)
Old 25-08-2006, 02:57 PM
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I got 80 quid ticket for 120kph in 50kph and 10 points (you can have 24)
Old 25-08-2006, 03:06 PM
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I dont think he'll be able to stay working as a traffic cop if he's been done for dangerous driving.

So losing the job he probably loves is punishment enough I reckon. How many people have been allowed to keep their licenses because their job etc depends on it?
Old 25-08-2006, 03:34 PM
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For 70 mph isn't it jail if you get caught doing double or more than that speed ? (for us poor fuckers of course not the gestapo)
Old 25-08-2006, 03:40 PM
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He'll probably be able to keep a pension that he should have stripped from him, aswell as keeping his job, along with staying out of jail!
Old 25-08-2006, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by R4N S S
i was banned for 6 weeks for doing 80mph in a 30mph was trying to hit 90mph in 3rd but hit the limiter @ 80mph (in my old saab turbo)
roflmao
Old 25-08-2006, 03:58 PM
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think its a joke really as said previously why should it be one rule for us n another for them ,

To those that condone(sp) this i dont think u would feel the same if someone u loved etc were to be knocked down and killed by this or any other copper driving like this because they can get away with it as has happened before now..........
Old 25-08-2006, 04:02 PM
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dreamin: apart form having my full back up that supporting olicemen's behavious is beeing hypocrite in this situations I really think you're going too far. Who is he going to overrun on motorway @ 3 AM?!??!?!


I know that human imagination has no limits but let's stay realistic. Only pedestrian there will be lost parachutist
Old 25-08-2006, 04:08 PM
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doing mroe than 30 over the limit normally results in a ban
just because he's got some lines on his jumper dones't mean he's above the law

even if it had been a proper shout, those sorts of speeds in the areas he's been doing them in is in no way shape or form setting a responsible example to everyone else

how many times have you seen police camera action and prats going down the roads at silly speeds?
and how many times have you seen the results when the hit something?

and how many times has a speeding mototrist been admonished for "driving like a moron, just imagine if you had a blow out and you crashed, the cost of the ambulance, hat your family would feel like" the whole guilt trip, whats wrong in this case? just because he's a coper don't mean to say he won't hit a rabbit on the road or a bird or any sort of sthi like that

the least he should have got was a ban, even if it was only for a short while, plus points on his license to go afterwards so that they could show the public that even the police aren't beyond the reach of the laws they are supopsed to enforce

oh well, more fuel for the fire started by the "different rules for them" brigade may it burn well
Old 25-08-2006, 04:29 PM
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absolute piss take imo!
Old 25-08-2006, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan
fucking disgraceful

91 in a 30.

should be banned and loose his job.
a mate of mine got done for doing 90 something in a 30 on his ZX9R
he got a ban , community service and a whacking fine.

one rule for one and one for the other
Old 25-08-2006, 04:39 PM
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might go and get the bike out and rack up 150 down the m180.I could mention theyre fellow snorter when they pull me over.Totally fookin disgustin in my honest.If he had hit any of my family whilst doin that regardeless of time of day or night,I would have his balls on a plate. It is 1 rule for us and one for them.
Old 25-08-2006, 04:41 PM
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If anyone gets caught doing 100mph on a motorway it's an instant ban.

I think he should get the same plus more for the speeds he done and obviously bullshitting about why he was doing it
Old 25-08-2006, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan
James does it really matter where the fuck it is.

oh its ok to speed on this road because its not built up!

as said

SPEEDING IS SPEEDING!

DRINK DRIVING IS DRINK DRIVING!

there are rules for a reason.
Yup, cos no-one here has ever broken a speed limit have they!
Old 25-08-2006, 04:43 PM
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Just remember what to say next time you get stopped for speeding.



"I was familurising myself with the vehicle"
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azrael, i understand ur point about the motorway speeding(still a piss take tho) but i was referring to the 91 in a 30 ,,

am i wrong or does it seem like the police can break the law that THEY are there to inforce to protect US civilians?

someone please correct if im wrong and i will take it back
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IF the guy was OFF duty. that makes him the same as the rest of us.
and he should of been shat on....


that said.. if he aint got a licence then he cant be out chasing people
for speeding and funding the governments revanue machine
so i can see it from their point of view

disgrace!
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Originally Posted by Phil DJ
If anyone gets caught doing 100mph on a motorway it's an instant ban.
no its not mate - i got done for an average speed of 106mph and got 6 points and a 80 quid fine - was a skivvy student at the time tho

Several of my mates got done a week before and a week after me, we all had to goto court and all got 6 points and a fine. All our ave speed was over 100 mph and these were all separate incidents on different days. Was back in 1998 tho.
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Originally Posted by B16
This Copper has been let off today for doing 159 mph back in Dec 2003. The appeal judge says he is not going to be prosecuted as he has suffered enough through all the court appearances he has had to go through. My heart bleeds for him. One rule for them one for us comes to mind.

What you lot think?

Just watched the news

he was found GUILTY ..BUT will not have any punishment as
apparently he has 'suffered enough' with all the press ETC..
so they did find him guilty. and he is appealing!

still serving as a traffic cop.
Old 25-08-2006, 06:21 PM
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so they found him guity but nothing chages


aint that the same result as not guilty then
Old 25-08-2006, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by pee vee
Originally Posted by B16
This Copper has been let off today for doing 159 mph back in Dec 2003. The appeal judge says he is not going to be prosecuted as he has suffered enough through all the court appearances he has had to go through. My heart bleeds for him. One rule for them one for us comes to mind.

What you lot think?

Just watched the news

he was found GUILTY ..BUT will not have any punishment as
apparently he has 'suffered enough' with all the press ETC..
so they did find him guilty. and he is appealing!

still serving as a traffic cop.
You sure he's still serving as a traffic cop? I wouldnt of thought he would be able to with a dangerous driving conviction., at least that's the way I always understood it. Why would he be appealing if he has lost nothing over it? Surely he'd take what he got and think himself lucky?
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Originally Posted by b19bal
so they found him guity but nothing chages


aint that the same result as not guilty then
never will change will it?I wonder what he would say if he pulled someone for excessive speed and they gave him abuse knowing who he was?Not the brightest person is he.only got caught coz he left the video on in his car.dipstick.


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