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Old 17-08-2006, 09:06 AM
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Default Is a 7.4.1 comp to low to run a T34.63?

Just a general question i need answering please

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Old 17-08-2006, 09:07 AM
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If you are thinking in terms of lag, then compression ratio has no effect on turbo-lag
Old 17-08-2006, 09:09 AM
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Im thinking the amount of air produced by the engine would be to great/little (not sure which) for the turbo?

I haven't a clue to be honest
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On what engine?

If its a YB, then yes i would say thats too low unless you reguarly take a piss in your petrol tank.
Old 17-08-2006, 09:12 AM
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Yeah cossy, just thinking what my options are with my engine (for sale) if the main engine doesn't sell.
Old 17-08-2006, 09:14 AM
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It will work fine, its not that it wont run or anything like that, compared to standard CR it will just feel flat off boost and make a little less power at the top end.

no big deal.
Old 17-08-2006, 09:16 AM
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got a nice new t38 for sale if he's interested

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would a T4 suit it better? but then there's lag isn't there?
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Originally Posted by Ryan
got a nice new t38 for sale if he's interested
could well be
Old 17-08-2006, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by peteh
would a T4 suit it better? but then there's lag isn't there?
Suit it better for what?
Old 17-08-2006, 09:26 AM
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for the engine spec.
Old 17-08-2006, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by peteh
for the engine spec.

The engine spec would better suit a T4 turbo than a standard engine would suit a T4, but that doesnt mean bolting a T4 onto it will give you something pleasant to drive, it all depends on what you are after, and unless its 500bhp or so, i cant see why you would want to fit a big laggy T4



I would worry most about ending up with an engine and turbo that suits your driving.
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I don't want 500bhp far from it , wana fast street /quater mile car

punchy and responsive most of all, not into top speeds and that.
Old 17-08-2006, 09:35 AM
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...that comp and turbo is FINE Pete

Its the old school way of doin things..where a T4 engine could only be 7.2-1 or less

Nowadays 7.4-1 is GT35 territory
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Originally Posted by peteh
I don't want 500bhp far from it , wana fast street /quater mile car

punchy and responsive most of all, not into top speeds and that.

Then IMHO its not a suitable compression ratio and i would wager the ports in the head are too big as well.

You would be better off for what you want just swapping it for a standard engine!
Old 17-08-2006, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
...that comp and turbo is FINE Pete
You think 7.4:1 comrpession is going to be "punchy and responsive" on a T34 compraed to standard compression?

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Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by peteh
I don't want 500bhp far from it , wana fast street /quater mile car

punchy and responsive most of all, not into top speeds and that.

Then IMHO its not a suitable compression ratio and i would wager the ports in the head are too big as well.

You would be better off for what you want just swapping it for a standard engine!
can't find one of them though well nobody that wants mine anyway.
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...oh and before anyone spouts more "in theorys" i have had most comp ratio and turbos ..and the current one just so happens to be the spec your after Pete....feels a lovely combo to me bizarrely
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Chip i talk from experience not books

..plus i never said it would be as good as std comp as that never arose in the conversation..he was asking if it would be ok...and IMO yes it will as i have experience..
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
...oh and before anyone spouts more "in theorys" i have had most comp ratio and turbos ..and the current one just so happens to be the spec your after Pete....feels a lovely combo to me bizarrely
sorry phil , explain abit mate, your new car is running a similar spec ti mine with a T34.63?
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
Chip i talk from experience not books

..plus i never said it would be as good as std comp as that never arose in the conversation..he was asking if it would be ok...and IMO yes it will as i have experience..
He doesnt want "ok" he wants "responsive and punchy"

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Hi Pete yes....the engine was made for 600bhp so basically its a case of just putting bigger injectors and turbo on it and remap of course.

Its a solid 400bhp with the T34.63 and is setup to perfection and very nice....you wouldnt be dissapointed,you could go bigger turbo but it depends what you want...in my EXPERIANCE it feels nice
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Thank you phil, the wise man has spoken
Old 17-08-2006, 09:48 AM
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let me know about the t38 pete if your interested
Old 17-08-2006, 09:49 AM
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I'd say it would be fine. I've got a t34 on a 1600 with similar ish compression ratio, and it drives fine off boost. You could have a nice 2.5 bar spike in the mid range for some serious acceleration
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Originally Posted by Rick
I'd say it would be fine. I've got a t34 on a 1600 with similar ish compression ratio, and it drives fine off boost. You could have a nice 2.5 bar spike in the mid range for some serious acceleration
here sounds like a man with experiance
Old 17-08-2006, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by peteh
I don't want 500bhp far from it , wana fast street /quater mile car

punchy and responsive most of all, not into top speeds and that.
You want a 0.48 A/R T34 then if you want punch AND response.
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NEXT QUESTION

what cams? got BD16's at the mo
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STANDARD for punch AND response .
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
Hi Pete yes....the engine was made for 600bhp so basically its a case of just putting bigger injectors and turbo on it and remap of course.

Its a solid 400bhp with the T34.63 and is setup to perfection and very nice....you wouldnt be dissapointed,you could go bigger turbo but it depends what you want...in my EXPERIANCE it feels nice
yours feels nice because you have a good map on it and probably havent had on a standard compression engine with a t34 on it.

If you had EXPERIENCE of both back to back you would realise that


It will work, but its far from ideal.
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...or MAD secret cams seem to work quite well

..becareful if you choose .48 as from MY experience i didnt like the way the power drops off before the limiter... .63 to the limiter baby no worries...about a 500rpm difference.
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
...or MAD secret cams seem to work quite well

..becareful if you choose .48 as from MY experience i didnt like the way the power drops off before the limiter... .63 to the limiter baby no worries...about a 500rpm difference.
That is correct .

But a 0.48 housing on a 2wd car, gives more consistant drag times as you can get the launch right more easily...

I used to able to REGULARLY punt out 12s quarters with my 0.48 A/R equipped car (over ten in one day before), whereas with the 0.63 A/R, it would only be possible if the launch was perfect, as it was much more all or nothing (bog or wheelspin city).
Old 17-08-2006, 10:09 AM
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Persoanly, i would use the .55 housing as it can hold on to the boost that much longer up the rev range over the .48.

BD14 inlet and 2.5 bar spike of boost in the mid-range. you wont be disappointed
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
Hi Pete yes....the engine was made for 600bhp so basically its a case of just putting bigger injectors and turbo on it and remap of course.

Its a solid 400bhp with the T34.63 and is setup to perfection and very nice....you wouldnt be dissapointed,you could go bigger turbo but it depends what you want...in my EXPERIANCE it feels nice
yours feels nice because you have a good map on it and probably havent had on a standard compression engine with a t34 on it.

If you had EXPERIENCE of both back to back you would realise that


It will work, but its far from ideal.

Excuse me??? This MAD engine is running an off the shelf Ahmed map Same as my std comped t34 .48 map ...i have no experience of a LIVE mapped car except my M3 ....and nor do the majority of users here...so a very poor attempt at a dig
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
STANDARD for punch AND response .
this ok with double valve springs?
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Originally Posted by peteh
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
STANDARD for punch AND response .
this ok with double valve springs?

I cant see why not
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You don't need them with standard springs...
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Thanks phil, your being surprisingly helpful
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Pete i actually KNOW about YB engines contary to popular beleif I have built a couple and specced them too with a little help from my friends I dont however profess to know everything to earn internet brownie points,i know what i need to know ONLY..anything more is a waste
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
You don't need them with standard springs...
just i don't wana take the head off


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