why are they so sensitive? Is it just that they are over servo'd?

I know they dont actually have more braking power - 240mm discs for example on a civic which when u touch the brakes u go through the windscreen..

 

i found this when test drivin new cars for the mrs!

u get used to it very quickly! i thnk the worst for it was the A3 fookin hell u even thought about puttin ur foot near the pissin pedal & it stonked on!

 

i know - our Passat is the same - all VW's are - tooooo sensitive. Would like to increase the sensitivity of mine a little for town driving, but not too much.

 

mine is a bit shat to b honest the master clyinder just aint up to workin the brakes i got all round! need to look properly in2 it really!


her focus is very good thoguh to b honest its a lil sensitive but nothin magor!

fookin top for when sme twat pulls out on ya!

 

the alfa 147 we had on holiday was SOOO sensative. Be interested how to improve the feel of the pedal. Everything works well I'd just rather not have to press so much.

 

what size cylinder u ot jon!?

 

Standard as per 90 spec RST. How do I tell though?

 

there will b a number on it!

 

i.e 23 25 etc? Nothing cryptic ?

 

yeah dont know how this works as there all still severo'd and sliding callipers

but fook me, they work 100x better than our shonky stuff

 

the difference is when u press very hard - there isnt much difference in pressure. Ours are more progressive, but when u press v hard on both setups - the braking is the same.

 

my mum's micra is like this... and thats old 1990ish nosedives if you wave your foot NEAR the pedal, but brakes re still shat

 

ye like 23 or 25 jon!

 

so how do you change the pressure difference? My mondeo has pretty good pedal feel.

 

jon - see if u can swap the master cylinders over...

 

You will likely find that yours are all just fooked

 

lol - mine aren't

 

Drum equipped owners cannot complain as technically speaking, these are not actually brakes at all.. roflol

Im in a pisstaking mood tonight.. must take a few beers and proceed with caution

 

i have no probs with my old sierra brakes

 

stu - a drum brake is more efficient than a disc brake - did u know

 

Yep. Overservo'ing is common nowadays because cars have to be easy to drive for ALL.

Why do you think this

 

cos it is - it's just shit at disipating the heat it absorbes lol

 

just read what stu said and was going to comment aswell
too slow though

 

Definitely agree - biggest problem is with modern cars all the pedal 'feel' is dissapearing. We had a Boreham built Gp4 Escort rally car in the old days, and had no servo at all, and the brakes had soooo much feel.. granted you had to stand on the pedal to make it stop quickly, but you knew it would stop if you did, and you knew exactly when the wheels were about to lock.
These days, you press the pedal gently, the wheels lock no problem, but it doesn't stop the car when the wheels are sliding. The crap feel is then offset with ABS to try and stop the wheels locking all the time.. the brake pedal just becomes a 'slowing down switch' ............ until the ABS fails one day

 

Yeah I did that today, jumped in the old mans new Accord and stamped on the pedal when a cat ran across the road and stopped there and then with my face against the windscreen...

 

My brakes have all the feel and sensetivity and bite I want!

 

Mondeo servos have been converted to RSTs with good results.

 

Got my Shonky old AP's, thats Austin Princess btw, proper porno brakes

oh and crapi 3 litre drums on the rear

 

Our Toyota Hiace van at work really exaggerates this when empty - no load sensor, 3.5 tonne van....
Every time I drive it after not being in it for a while it's "oops, sorry!!!" to passengers!