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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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Gotta love the way more or less everyone jumps straight on the bandwagon and starts judging before they even hear the otherside of the story Nothing being impartial and reasonable is there?

Even if the one side of the story which had been given was totally accurate whats to say it wasn't an isolated case and the trader in question had lots of happy customers? Doesn't mean they should be banned through one incident does it?

Whats the betting if it was a less well known trader they would still be getting grief, its this sort of thing that can cause real harm to the reputation of a business. Also whats the betting if the trader was named in the original post half if not all the people who posted afterwards wouldn't have said what they did?


Sorry but it really pisses me off when people make public comments without even knowing what they hell they are talking about
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 06:59 PM
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At last, thank you for your words Brom.

Like Lynn said, always 2 sides to a story.
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:02 PM
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This is exactly why these post should either name the trader asap so the full story comes out and the trader can reply ( as Brom has ) and then we make our own mindes up who is right or not bother with the posts at all

What pisses me off is not naming only puts suspission on every trader

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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Genesis Engineering
Gotta love the way more or less everyone jumps straight on the bandwagon and starts judging before they even hear the otherside of the story Nothing being impartial and reasonable is there?

Even if the one side of the story which had been given was totally accurate whats to say it wasn't an isolated case and the trader in question had lots of happy customers? Doesn't mean they should be banned through one incident does it?

Whats the betting if it was a less well known trader they would still be getting grief, its this sort of thing that can cause real harm to the reputation of a business. Also whats the betting if the trader was named in the original post half if not all the people who posted afterwards wouldn't have said what they did?


Sorry but it really pisses me off when people make public comments without even knowing what they hell they are talking about
Was going to put exactly the same, like i said in my original post something wasnt right and it was a little more then just a rant about a non-delivery....
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:06 PM
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no worrys lads
have i done wrong
av offerd the Ł350 back intantly and the rest when his parts are sold or should i just give him the stuff for him to sell anyway
makes you sick to think brakes come for a persons life i have been serously ill blood wise i dont need the stress at moment
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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Brom

If he has paid for the goods then I would send them to him.
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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Brom

My honest opinion is

1, its not his fault you were ill so couldnt finish the kit
2, it wasnt your fault you were ill so couldnt complete the kit

You offered a refund on the deposit and offered to sell the parts orderd
Fair enough IMO

Hope you feel better soon
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:12 PM
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Like i said at the start, This will get sorted asap now
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:12 PM
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he gave me the cash up front to get the kit of me
he was told from the start rotors needed ordering as the 2nd hand ones where fuked
he so ovusly gone else where thinkin he can get his money back but he intructed me to get him rotors i got a very good deal on the aps so i got them
if thats the case legaly then i do it monday with his Ł300 cheque
and some bells and rotors
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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Used Zoo motorsport A few times. NEVER had a problem.
I am in the motor trade and have hundreds a regular customers. but it dont matter how hard you try you cant keep every body happy.




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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:15 PM
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Yeah, i'd send the Ł350 aswell as offering him the brakes to sell on himself or you sell them and send him the money once sold.

Hopefully that would suit you both.
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BROM@ZOO
no worrys lads
have i done wrong
av offerd the Ł350 back intantly and the rest when his parts are sold or should i just give him the stuff for him to sell anyway
makes you sick to think brakes come for a persons life i have been serously ill blood wise i dont need the stress at moment
If he instructed you to buy the parts.... send him the parts and the balance of the money.... case closed.
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:17 PM
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Brom at the end of the day your health is more important. You did not do anything wrong in anyway.

Glad to see the 2 sides are all out in the open.
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
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My honest opinion is

1, its not his fault you were ill so couldnt finish the kit
2, it wasnt your fault you were ill so couldnt complete the kit

You offered a refund on the deposit and offered to sell the parts orderd
Fair enough IMO

Hope you feel better soon
paul the kit was finshed all i had to do was get to brum to fetch the bells i had made from polishes
as i was in nottingham where i used to live at my mums on bed rest
the kit can still be put togther and sold as a full kit which i had tryed to do
weeks ago look at the for sale bit u see
ya self
he wasnt botherd about me being ill he wanted the kit there and then
i told him he carnt have cash back untill parts are sold
or he has the parts i got for him
issuse being cuz i been very ill he wudnt wait till i cud get to brum hence he wants his money
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:19 PM
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Agree with Redkop 100% . all sorted

If the kit is complete and ready tho , wont he accept the kit , everyones a winner
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:20 PM
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If he asked you to get the brakes and paid you the money then he OWNS them, it's HIS fault he then decided to go elsewhere. I wouldnt of even bothered trying to sell them for him i'd have sent him the kit and told him to fuck off.

You wouldnt go to ford give em 15 grand for a new car, then when it turns up tell them you dont want it anymore and ask for you money back. Fair enough the timescale is obviously a bit longer but business doesnt work like that. He should of asked you not to buy the brakes if he didnt want them anymore.

This is probably why I dont sell things to people
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dave green
Used Zoo motorsport A few times. NEVER had a problem.
I am in the motor trade and have hundreds a regular customers. but it dont matter how hard you try you cant keep every body happy.




Dave
dave this isnt about zoo thow it was a personal sale of calipers and brackets
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:24 PM
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Brom

what exactly is the kit , and whats the price , I am shure between all the traders on here we can sell if for you if ness if it helps you
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:25 PM
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OK Mate. Sorry for getting it wrong.

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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
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what exactly is the kit , and whats the price , I am shure between all the traders on here we can sell if for you if ness if it helps you
That's a nice gesture
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 89XR2
If he asked you to get the brakes and paid you the money then he OWNS them, it's HIS fault he then decided to go elsewhere. I wouldnt of even bothered trying to sell them for him i'd have sent him the kit and told him to fuck off.

You wouldnt go to ford give em 15 grand for a new car, then when it turns up tell them you dont want it anymore and ask for you money back. Fair enough the timescale is obviously a bit longer but business doesnt work like that. He should of asked you not to buy the brakes if he didnt want them anymore.

This is probably why I dont sell things to people
i always try to be a fair person in life and work thats y i wud work threw the nite to get a car out on time and i have done on many times
andy rs for instance i knew he has ford fair last week so i worked threw the night to fit his beam in time
i have alwasy tryed to please my custromers
this time my heath got in the way and the unavliblity of goodspeed parts
i live my life wat goes around comes around i tryed my best but it seams i still get all the shite
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:30 PM
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cheap 330 kit
i got 2nd hand but brand new rotors never used
brand new bells
new brackets
2nd hand reconed rs brembo calipers
new pads
to fit a escort cozzy
rene is gettin back to me buy end of month if the clear his wheels
i carnt under sell him untill he says not
paul you know your self the aps and bells are worth Ł500 on there own
i let you know
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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atlast the whole story has come out

i wish when people do these posts they just namr first saves all that speculation and abusive comments

Brom hope your feeling better m8

have to agree with lynn(redkop0 thas what i would do
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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MY moto is I try my best for everyone when my best is notgood enough fuck off.

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It seems to me you done your best.
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:32 PM
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paul i pm you the price as other wise i get banned for trying to sell them in genral desusoin
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:32 PM
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I have used Brom for my brakes and beam and can honestly say I would trust him

100%
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:33 PM
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If Rene says no give me a shout and i am shure we can get them sold no probs mate
I get calls for big break kits all the time
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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It really irritates the shit out of me when people come on here bleating about a trader/user without naming them, because they think by not naming them they will get loads of sympathy replies first....but what irritates me even more, is when they neglect to tell the truth and present ALL of the facts!
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BROM@ZOO
Originally Posted by 89XR2
If he asked you to get the brakes and paid you the money then he OWNS them, it's HIS fault he then decided to go elsewhere. I wouldnt of even bothered trying to sell them for him i'd have sent him the kit and told him to fuck off.

You wouldnt go to ford give em 15 grand for a new car, then when it turns up tell them you dont want it anymore and ask for you money back. Fair enough the timescale is obviously a bit longer but business doesnt work like that. He should of asked you not to buy the brakes if he didnt want them anymore.

This is probably why I dont sell things to people
i always try to be a fair person in life and work thats y i wud work threw the nite to get a car out on time and i have done on many times
andy rs for instance i knew he has ford fair last week so i worked threw the night to fit his beam in time
i have alwasy tryed to please my custromers
this time my heath got in the way and the unavliblity of goodspeed parts
i live my life wat goes around comes around i tryed my best but it seams i still get all the shite
I know mate, you can see what kind of trader you are just by the posts you've written on this thread. As a result I wouldnt hesitate in coming to you for anything to do with my car. It's just a shame you get people in this world like the thread starter who seem to think they can do what they like with regards to spending money, ordering parts etc.

I wish you all the best for a speed recovery mate. Take care of yourself and dont let stuff like this get to you
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Originally Posted by Redkop
It really irritates the shit out of me when people come on here bleating about a trader/user without naming them, because they think by not naming them they will get loads of sympathy replies first....but what irritates me even more, is when they neglect to tell the truth and present ALL of the facts!
agreed.
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WHERES MY PM BROM
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
WHERES MY PM BROM
Hi paul more to the point weres ianrst gone since brom give his side of the story its all gone abit quiet. Brom no blame can be put to you who was to no you were going to be very ill all i can say is hope you get well soon. As for ian his middle name must be SELF SELF SELF I ONLY THINK OF MY SELF
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Originally Posted by BROM@ZOO
due to heath resons i am not longer trading as zoo
shite mate, does this mean no more Zoo Mortorsport or just for now till you get better?

I can say Brom is a top bloke and he even stayed late in his workshop for me (till 10.30pm) when I first went to see him so he could get my job sorted out
Old Aug 12, 2006 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by D19 STE
Originally Posted by BROM@ZOO
due to heath resons i am not longer trading as zoo
shite mate, does this mean no more Zoo Mortorsport or just for now till you get better?

I can say Brom is a top bloke and he even stayed late in his workshop for me (till 10.30pm) when I first went to see him so he could get my job sorted out
PMSL, 10.30pm is an early finish for brom.........ive been there at 5am after pulling an all nighter, and ive had to go home and leave him too it!! He's not human....lol
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What do you mean all has gone quite from ian rst i have been out cant be bothered to sit at a computer all night.

See i knew this would happen everyone says how unfair the trader is but now everyone knows its Brom ebery starts backing up. I ddint name him as i knew he was a genuine trader and not to be dissed but wanted to know if it was just me or not.

Now Brom you diont get in contact with me very much i always had to do the chasing asking where parts are and the like only once did you get in contact with me talking about the brakes and that was near the end saying you had got plain rs focus disks which i didnt want then i payed more to get them grooved how long do you need to get them sent to me??????????? Then you got stroppy and said you would just send my money back so i said yes but you havent done it. I dont want part of the money back i have bought different ones now i would like it all back in full. So why how you not got in contact with me since you said you would give me my money back?????????

I have never got angry with you at all over this just been curious why i havent got my goods. For arguement sake if you bought some double glazing and they said to you it will be fitted in 2 weeks, you waited those 2 weeks and another 2 weeks asked where things were thay said they were having trouble getting hold of parts then you say ok no probs carry on tell me would you not be a bit pissed off when after 2 and a half months nothing had turned up? You make it sound like its all my fault HOW EXACTLY is it that????????
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Brom also i NEVER said that i wasnt bothered about your ill ness, look back trough the pm's i sent ya never once did i say i dont care about your illness just send me the goods so dont make out i dont give a shit.

You said you tried getting in contact with me for 4 weeks but to no avail WHEN???? my phone never rang nor did i get any pm's i had to pm you. You had my number you know i come on here so WHEN? I just cant believe this really i cant. I will post up all pm's if i have to from the both of us.
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Again, like i said....

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I have just read through the pm's from us both and the thing that gets annoying is the number of times you promised me the kit there is about 3 or 4 saying the kit is ready mate you will get it this day or that day but it never turned up, then you promise me the money back again a few times saying by the end of the week you will get it back and nothing. All i want from this is for you to talk to and resolve this but i just get ignored
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sorry brom but fuck what all this ltot is saying brom you are more the likely person in the wrong here mate

i agree that you was ill ect but its not is fault mate, if i was ill when i done work on a mates car and i got parts ect and he wasnted it done to a dead line i WOULD have to swallow on the cash i payed out as MORALLY its not his fault and unfair to him !!!

you offering the parts hes payed for then a refund is TOTAL crap,,,, thats not what you agree and the time scale wasnt there,,,,,,, IMO the right thing to do is lick ya lips and accept it


if this was simon in this situation EVERYONE would be against him

its just this site is full of arse licking tossers who wont let there idols be hurt


NOW im not saying its YOUR fault BUT yYOU broke the contract mate, not him

saying its not been done through zoo is rubbish as you are still zoo

if martin built a engine on the side the bloke whos gone to him has gone based on he IS reyland

im sure he approached you as zoomotorsport,,,,,,, if you decide to claim that thurday you call you self broms custom conversions or decide its a passtime thing then i dont think thats gonan hold up as hes gone to you as "BROM FROM ZOO" based on your reputation


NOW also remember im not a hater of you, im a VERY happy customer of you and would have no problems using you again,,,,,,,, i know i would have been paitent,,,, hell i am paitent and even if you wasnt ill i would still be cool to wait,,,, being ill just adds a guilt thing to YOUR CUSTOMER !!

imo look after him, keep him happy and sell the kit on yourself as making him wait for his cash when its NOT HIS FAULT AT ALL is unfair and you wouldnt accept it from anyone at all mate



as for all these band wagon posters who ust post up to hate then see its a mate of theres so change the post to "edited" or change it to " theres 2 sides to every storey"

get a fucking live you crawling scumbags,,,,,,,,, how can you change your opinion that you typed just cause hes a mate,,,,,, if it was pete ect he would have got a grilling

people like you are a total shame on this site,,,,,,, make a comment and have some fucking back bone to stick to or dont fucking post your bitchy comments in the first fucking place !!!!


so to summerise

the correct and morale thing to do brom is give thefull cash back to the bloke whos watied longer than he wanted and he couldnt wait anymore

he should not jsut be fobbed off and told to get fucked ( as thats what your saying tbh)

OR do him a better prices and the brakekit so he can sell em on ect quicker to get his cash back

either way brom mate you are the one in the wrong through a unfortunate part of events


then both buy each other a drink and move on,,,,,, lifes too short to hold grudges and argue about fucking money of all things,,,,,, route of all evil is money
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Originally Posted by b19bal
sorry brom but fuck what all this ltot is saying brom you are more the likely person in the wrong here mate

i agree that you was ill ect but its not is fault mate, if i was ill when i done work on a mates car and i got parts ect and he wasnted it done to a dead line i WOULD have to swallow on the cash i payed out as MORALLY its not his fault and unfair to him !!!

you offering the parts hes payed for then a refund is TOTAL crap,,,, thats not what you agree and the time scale wasnt there,,,,,,, IMO the right thing to do is lick ya lips and accept it


if this was simon in this situation EVERYONE would be against him

its just this site is full of arse licking tossers who wont let there idols be hurt


NOW im not saying its YOUR fault BUT yYOU broke the contract mate, not him

saying its not been done through zoo is rubbish as you are still zoo

if martin built a engine on the side the bloke whos gone to him has gone based on he IS reyland

im sure he approached you as zoomotorsport,,,,,,, if you decide to claim that thurday you call you self broms custom conversions or decide its a passtime thing then i dont think thats gonan hold up as hes gone to you as "BROM FROM ZOO" based on your reputation


NOW also remember im not a hater of you, im a VERY happy customer of you and would have no problems using you again,,,,,,,, i know i would have been paitent,,,, hell i am paitent and even if you wasnt ill i would still be cool to wait,,,, being ill just adds a guilt thing to YOUR CUSTOMER !!

imo look after him, keep him happy and sell the kit on yourself as making him wait for his cash when its NOT HIS FAULT AT ALL is unfair and you wouldnt accept it from anyone at all mate



as for all these band wagon posters who ust post up to hate then see its a mate of theres so change the post to "edited" or change it to " theres 2 sides to every storey"

get a fucking live you crawling scumbags,,,,,,,,, how can you change your opinion that you typed just cause hes a mate,,,,,, if it was pete ect he would have got a grilling

people like you are a total shame on this site,,,,,,, make a comment and have some fucking back bone to stick to or dont fucking post your bitchy comments in the first fucking place !!!!


so to summerise

the correct and morale thing to do brom is give thefull cash back to the bloke whos watied longer than he wanted and he couldnt wait anymore

he should not jsut be fobbed off and told to get fucked ( as thats what your saying tbh)

OR do him a better prices and the brakekit so he can sell em on ect quicker to get his cash back

either way brom mate you are the one in the wrong through a unfortunate part of events


then both buy each other a drink and move on,,,,,, lifes too short to hold grudges and argue about fucking money of all things,,,,,, route of all evil is money
well said,too much arse licking goes on around here



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