Diesel/cooking oil. Whats the crack?
11-08-2006, 02:21 PM
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Diesel/cooking oil. Whats the crack?
Whats the thing with cooking oil? someone said put it straight in the tank? is he pulling my leg? anyone done it?
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11-08-2006, 02:24 PM
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i know someone who does it all the time, mixes it about 50:50 when its colder as is doesnt flow as freely, but when its warm, 100% old chip fat and runs fine albeit with a nice smell of chips behind 
eddited to say, this is on a old TDI discovery, not a modern ECU controlled HDI
eddited to say, this is on a old TDI discovery, not a modern ECU controlled HDI
11-08-2006, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Henshall
i know someone who does it all the time, mixes it about 50:50 when its colder as is doesnt flow as freely, but when its warm, 100% old chip fat and runs fine albeit with a nice smell of chips behind
eddited to say, this is on a old TDI discovery, not a modern ECU controlled HDI
eddited to say, this is on a old TDI discovery, not a modern ECU controlled HDI
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11-08-2006, 02:37 PM
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I wound'nt put it stright in 
it tells you here how to go about it
http://www.veggiepower.org.uk/page208a.htm
it tells you here how to go about ithttp://www.veggiepower.org.uk/page208a.htm
11-08-2006, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Henshall
he puts it stright in out of the 5 gallon drums from costco 
works out at about 40p/litre
works out at about 40p/litre
11-08-2006, 02:47 PM
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he has paid VAT on it - so they can stick that up their pipe and smoke it.
i've always said, if someone found a way to convert sea water into energy freely and easilly - he'd be shot. all those fookers that fight over the oil and the millions of peoploe that are rich JUst because of oil - would turn thir world upside down, you'd end up with a camels head in your bed
i've always said, if someone found a way to convert sea water into energy freely and easilly - he'd be shot. all those fookers that fight over the oil and the millions of peoploe that are rich JUst because of oil - would turn thir world upside down, you'd end up with a camels head in your bed
11-08-2006, 02:47 PM
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Mix it 50 50 as long as its not common rail Injection and you wont have any hassle apart from the smell of a Chip Van put it straight in the tank via the filler neck
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Mix it 50 50 as long as its not common rail Injection and you wont have any hassle apart from the smell of a Chip Van put it straight in the tank via the filler neck
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11-08-2006, 02:47 PM
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Make sure you pay tax on it as it's not exactly hard for old bill to notice the chip shop van
11-08-2006, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Henshall
he has paid VAT on it - so they can stick that up their pipe and smoke it.
i've always said, if someone found a way to convert sea water into energy freely and easilly - he'd be shot. all those fookers that fight over the oil and the millions of peoploe that are rich JUst because of oil - would turn thir world upside down, you'd end up with a camels head in your bed
i've always said, if someone found a way to convert sea water into energy freely and easilly - he'd be shot. all those fookers that fight over the oil and the millions of peoploe that are rich JUst because of oil - would turn thir world upside down, you'd end up with a camels head in your bed
Think you have to pay some stupid fuel tax on top of vat.
11-08-2006, 02:55 PM
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Totally depends on the fuel pump, lucas pumps arent as well made and because cooking oil is alot thicker than diesel it kills them quite quickly even on a weak mixture.
If its a bosch pump like alot of mercs and peugot's use then while its warm weather you could get away with 100% cooking oil, when the temp drops, something like a 95% mix with the other 5% being unleaded, the petrol helps to thin it down and helps cold start as the oil dont like it when its cold so it needs a bit of help. I dont know much about renault diesels, best bet is to find out what sort of pump it uses.
Unless you have access to suitable filtering and mixing equipment then used oil is out of the question really, yes its cheap (sometimes free) but its a pain in the arse to get it good enough to use as fuel. New vegtable oil or rape seed oil is your best bet, works out about 40p/litre, make sure you pay duty though
If its a bosch pump like alot of mercs and peugot's use then while its warm weather you could get away with 100% cooking oil, when the temp drops, something like a 95% mix with the other 5% being unleaded, the petrol helps to thin it down and helps cold start as the oil dont like it when its cold so it needs a bit of help. I dont know much about renault diesels, best bet is to find out what sort of pump it uses.
Unless you have access to suitable filtering and mixing equipment then used oil is out of the question really, yes its cheap (sometimes free) but its a pain in the arse to get it good enough to use as fuel. New vegtable oil or rape seed oil is your best bet, works out about 40p/litre, make sure you pay duty though
11-08-2006, 05:30 PM
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I once went to Burnley and back on a full tank of veg oil.
And that was between Xmas & New Year when we had the snow.
The Transit we went is was using the older style of injection which handles the thicker mixture no problem and the old van went better than ever before, more BHP but probably a little less torque.
The whole thing has got the Oil companies worried.
So what they are doing is getting round the chippys and chinese restraunts and buying up the old fat, filtering out all the shite and then thinning it with Glycerine, calling it bio diesel and charging the Greenies a fortune for it.
When you could just go Cost Co and get Gallon drums of nice clean new veg oil.
It makes envirionmental sense, its a totally sustainable fuel.... and the more people do it the better.
The government are shitting it because how do you apply a fuel duty to something you can buy over the counter legitimately for another purpose ? and its not illegal like running red diesel or heating oil.
The manufacturers are scaremongering saying the engine will blow up and they wont cover it...
Its all just a big con.
The more people take this into their own hands the better
Yes it does pong a bit... but its only like a deep fat frier... better then smokey old diesel I reckon..
Only a problem for fat birds with no will power... but it could help with chip sales at motorway cafes...
And that was between Xmas & New Year when we had the snow.
The Transit we went is was using the older style of injection which handles the thicker mixture no problem and the old van went better than ever before, more BHP but probably a little less torque.
The whole thing has got the Oil companies worried.
So what they are doing is getting round the chippys and chinese restraunts and buying up the old fat, filtering out all the shite and then thinning it with Glycerine, calling it bio diesel and charging the Greenies a fortune for it.
When you could just go Cost Co and get Gallon drums of nice clean new veg oil.
It makes envirionmental sense, its a totally sustainable fuel.... and the more people do it the better.
The government are shitting it because how do you apply a fuel duty to something you can buy over the counter legitimately for another purpose ? and its not illegal like running red diesel or heating oil.
The manufacturers are scaremongering saying the engine will blow up and they wont cover it...
Its all just a big con.
The more people take this into their own hands the better
Yes it does pong a bit... but its only like a deep fat frier... better then smokey old diesel I reckon..
Only a problem for fat birds with no will power... but it could help with chip sales at motorway cafes...
11-08-2006, 05:42 PM
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I watched my uncle stick loads of it in the tank of his people carrier - new oil straight out of a drum ... i thought he'd gone mad as he drove off into the sunset
11-08-2006, 11:02 PM
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it does pong, but a nice pong...
My uncles firm PDM are doing the bio diesel...hes in usa now doing something to do with it god knows but its soming big apparantley..
My uncles firm PDM are doing the bio diesel...hes in usa now doing something to do with it god knows but its soming big apparantley..
12-08-2006, 09:32 AM
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on the continent you can buy rapeseed oil from the pump, ive run the following cars on a 50/50 mixture and had no problems Rover 620sdi, cavalier 1.7td, peugeot 205 td, 306 diesel, and a mondeo diesel. they seem to rev better too
12-08-2006, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave Henshall
he has paid VAT on it - so they can stick that up their pipe and smoke it.
12-08-2006, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by filthyrichie
somebody told me to mix it with turps is that another method
, not sure what quantites tho
, not sure what quantites tho
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