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Old 10-08-2006, 06:08 PM
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Default Who`s got away without paying there SORN fine?

Just wondering who has got away with out paying the fine they empose on you for not SORNing a car and what excuse did you use?

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Old 10-08-2006, 06:11 PM
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I didn't think they even entered into discussions about the fines. Once issued you pay it, that's it.
Old 10-08-2006, 06:11 PM
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They tried to fine me a while back for a car i had broken and forgotten to send the logbook off for, i just kicked up a fuss told them i had sent a sorn form off and they were ok about it
Old 10-08-2006, 06:14 PM
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geuine reason this

old man broke the engine/gearbox

i parked it up in september 05
tax ran out in feb 06
sent the sorn off feb 06
didn't get a letter back
didn't get a sorn reminder
called up in april 06 to ask if it was sorn
they said no
i sent off another sorn
got a letter in may 06 saying "you owe us Ł96"
sent a letter may 06 recorded delivery explaining the situation AND enclosing the reocvery from where the box broke down to my house AND said the only time the car had been moved was in dec 05 when it was STILL LEAGAL when it went 100 yards to my new house
made it proper long and detailed with EVERY bit of information i could think of
got a letter back saying "ok, fair enough, you need to sorn your car, here's the form"

so, it all depends on how long you had it unsorned for and you can always say you posted it off and they must never have recived it
Old 10-08-2006, 06:15 PM
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nope,sent them photos of my car in a 1000 bits!but still had to pay the Ł80
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We were going to try the old "i sent it to you but it must have got lost in the post" but it does say not to send it to them. So we then thought about saying we never had the reminder!
Old 10-08-2006, 06:18 PM
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i went to the post office to get them to sorn it and they said "iwthout the reminder you have to send it off to the dvla in scotland" or someplce like that
so i sent it of
that V890 still haunts me to this day
Old 10-08-2006, 06:24 PM
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The DVLA tried to fine me Ł380 (Out of Court settlement) cause my car was spotted on the public highway while on a SORN and had no Tax. Actually, my car was on axle stands, stripped and outside my garage door on PRIVATE land. Had to send them copies of our land registry and photo's. They sent me a letter a few days after saying "With the information you have provided, we have decided to not continue with the proceedings."

Not even a apologie
Old 10-08-2006, 06:33 PM
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This letter has worked twice for me.

addy here

RE xxxxxxx


To Whom It May Concern:


Please find enclosed a cheque for the amount which I have been Fined.
I would like to add that I would like you to check and double check your records and see that this car was scrapped and declared on 01/11/2003 at the address on your supplied paper work Before the cheque is banked/cashed.
I would also kindly request that I am supplied with methods which you can provide me in writing to how you prove that this paper work has not been lost in your system.
I know with your new system you provide me with a letter to confirm the status of my vehicle. However the scrapping of E655 CAN was prior to this so it was assumed that the declaration was all ok and I would hear nothing more.

I would like to say that I am not trying to be difficult, I just know that I am an organised person and things like this are dealt with as soon as possible.

If you do need to contact me in person please call

xxxxxx xxxxxxx or write to the above address.

Yours truly,


xxxxxxxxxxxxx




OR/

To Whom It May Concern:


Please find enclosed a cheque for the amount which I have been Fined.
I would like to add that I would like you to check and double check your records and see that this car was scrapped and declared on 7/2/2005 at the address on your supplied paper work Before the cheque is banked/cashed.

I allowed 4 weeks to which I HAD SENT A CHASE LETTER as I had not received any confirmation of this. Now I agree maybe I should have chased by phone. But I work 75 Hours some weeks I have other priorities. I have the letter sent.


I would also kindly request that I am supplied with methods which you can provide me in writing to how you prove that this paper work has not been lost in your system.
I know with your new system you provide me with a letter to confirm the status of my vehicle. However
I would like to say that I am not trying to be difficult, I just know that I am an organised person and things like this are dealt with as soon as possible.

If you do need to contact me in person please call

xxxxx xxxxxx or write to the above address.

Yours truly,


xxxxxxxxxxxx
Old 10-08-2006, 06:37 PM
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What u done Ross?
Old 10-08-2006, 06:47 PM
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I have , when it came through I said, no no it was sent of ages ago, went to the post office to tax it and she wanted to know why the gap in time was there, I explained about "the mix-up" by the DVLA and she taxed it from that day instead of 2 months back when it should have been
I hope theyre not fucking reading this
Old 10-08-2006, 07:31 PM
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i got latter through about the 3dr

i sold the sx in april and sent the sorn off with the V5 for the sx.

i wrote a letter stating the approx dates of the sale of the car and the reg number, and also a link to here in the resto thread where you can clearly see me and steve taking the enigne out the car and the number plate is in the windscreen lol. that post was dated 2 days before the car ran out of tax lol

got aleeter saying due to evidence recieved they would take no further action, then got another letter saying they will take no further action on the letter they sent me saying they would take no further action
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Originally Posted by fudgeass
got aleeter saying due to evidence recieved they would take no further action, then got another letter saying they will take no further action on the letter they sent me saying they would take no further action


i got 2 letters, both on the same day, both from the same department, one saying i had to pay the ifne
one saying i didn't have th epay the ifne
both letters were posted on a sunday
Old 10-08-2006, 08:00 PM
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dvla = wanker's
Old 10-08-2006, 08:09 PM
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ive got away with it twice, both times simply forgot to sorn but had the form, on receiving fine i filled form out and backdated it,took a copy and sent copy with a letter of complaint saying attached is form i sent on whatever date and im discusted to be treated like a criminal etc etc and worked both times. Ive now learnt to do things straight away before i forget
Old 10-08-2006, 08:25 PM
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Cheers Danny, was thinking along the same lines
Old 10-08-2006, 08:34 PM
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nice one danny how long do you get into the month before they fine you as I am still waiting on an insurance cover note to arrive from the 8th before taxing the vehicle
Old 12-08-2006, 05:13 PM
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The SORN was ment to have been sent back 4 months ago!
Old 12-08-2006, 06:41 PM
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well im sorted as my insurance arrived this morning and got it taxed midday
I like Danny idea best. Good luck
Old 12-08-2006, 06:43 PM
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I have so far although I was fined and I just didn't pay it, it was typically on a car I sold that I forgot to send the V5 off as I knew it was in storage.

Got fined Ł80 or something which I must remember to pay before I get hammered for some more
Old 12-08-2006, 08:34 PM
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One question though

WHY WOULD YOU NOT DECLARE IT SORN'D??????

Doesnt cost fook all and if the car was on the road you would have to go to the post office so its not as if its making you go out of your way to do it

cant understand why people have gripes with the sorning system
Old 12-08-2006, 10:20 PM
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No-one likes the DVLA
Old 12-08-2006, 11:24 PM
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I got an Ł80 fine from them a couple of years ago. I sent them a cheque as well as a letter stating that I had sent off the sorn decleration. Obviously , due to the royal mail not doing their job in a professional manner , I was now getting a fine for their cock-up.
They sent me back my cheque and let me off with the fine .
I have now learnt my lesson and I now sorn my car straight away to avoid this situation again.

I guess at the time , the fine was new and I didnt beleive that they would fine us for it , how wrong was I?
Old 13-08-2006, 01:57 AM
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I got fooked on this - car was being restored - was taxed then ran out but this was just before the sorn thing came in - 6 months later a get a fine even though no sorn declaration received - so sent a letter explaining that the car was off the road & under no circumstances would i be paying any such fine - fooker's took out a C.C.J on me - oh well fook'um still ain't payin it !!!!
Old 13-08-2006, 09:53 AM
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i just wrote off and said ive never owned this vehicle and would they pleae take it out of my name before i take legal action on them


job done
Old 13-08-2006, 10:17 AM
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they (dvla)dont know their arses from their elbows,taxed my car last month,just recieved notice to tax it again at the end this month cause it runs out
Old 13-08-2006, 10:47 AM
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when i bought my S1 it was on a SORN, however when you change owners the SORN is removed..... i didnt know this and as it was off-road for a year or so being re-built...i got a nasty letter almost after 6mnths of owning the car,

mr..... you owe us Ł178.00 in tax/charges/admin shite....

WTF...i rang them to explain and they just didnt want to know...at all.

its my fault for not knowing the situation apparently.....

i went to court and the magistrate was on my side luckly enuf and i gotr away with paying nothing.....
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wen i bought my new shell for my turbo it was sorn but i didnt realise that me the new owner had to then declare it sorn aswell as soon as i had recieved the log book. 3months later i thought hmm, maybe i'll try sornng it, so did it online, then it come up they have no record for this car being taxed for past 5months or so and i could be fined heavily bla bla bloody bla. i was shitting myself for a few days but then thought ah well. havent heard anything from them since and that was 5months ago.

has anyone tried phoning dvla? fuck me their fone system is shit. very hard to get through to the right person. they are the biggest bunch of wankers alive and i'll stick to that statement
Old 13-08-2006, 11:10 AM
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I got away with it. got rid of an Omega last December that may or may not have been sorn'd, can't remember.

However, I gave them the scrappies details, and they confirmed they scrapped it a couple of days after the SORN ran out, so they let me off.
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Originally Posted by GAZ W
One question though

WHY WOULD YOU NOT DECLARE IT SORN'D??????

Doesnt cost fook all and if the car was on the road you would have to go to the post office so its not as if its making you go out of your way to do it

cant understand why people have gripes with the sorning system
Nothing dodgy, just genuinely forgot, the car has not moved from the drive in 2 years or so!
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Got a letter back from the DVLA today after my dad photocoppyed the SORN form that he forgot to send back to them with a letter explaining he sent the form to the post office.

The case is dropped!!

Old 29-08-2006, 12:02 PM
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I got one too, The car cost me Ł150, Then I got caught doing 47 in a 40 so 3 points and a Ł60 fine then the sorn fine of Ł40 + back payment of about Ł27, I sent them a letter and a copy of the V890 or what ever it is but ive not heard back from them, Dont know if it will work or not

REF no. 455 P567 TAV

14/08/07

To Whom it may concern

On the 6th June 2006 I received a letter from you saying my car was of the road and not declared as SORN, This was quite a shock to me as I did declare it, At the begining of the year I took my car off of the road and bought the vehicle concerned to use whilst my car was being repaired, I declared my original car off the road (SORN). The road tax on the vehicle concerned was due to run out at the end of May. On the 30th of May I re taxed my original car, Whilst I was in the post office I picked up a SORN form, I filled it in the same day and sent it off to you, Before sending it I photo copied it as I trust royal mail about as far as I can throw them, Obviously it was a good idea as something is amiss here, Please find enclosed a copy of the original V890.

I am sending this letter by recorded delivery just so I know it gets to you

Thanks for your time

P. Jessop
Old 30-08-2006, 11:12 AM
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Becarefull with that mate, if a car is not regestered to anyone and someone knows this then they could applay for a log book and they will get it unless you canprove you are the owner
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I got a fine last year, i just sent them a letter saying, you did not send me a reminder, 2 weeks later i got a letter of apology, and sorry to have bothered me
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