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Old 04-08-2006 | 12:41 PM
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Mine should be fairly competent i hope....
Old 04-08-2006 | 01:15 PM
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Right it pretty much seems the day of the Cosworth is gone when it comes to straight line stuff just can't seem to compete with the Evo's,Scooby's,Skylines look at TOTB.
Thats a fact is it, just because it aint at totb dont mean that there aint a Cossie that can compete in a Straight line. 203 the best at totb, watch this space.
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its made already





dont have a spec list tho soz
Great piccy... awesome car
got it even bigger want it ?
Old 04-08-2006 | 01:35 PM
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Mine should be fairly competent i hope....
After what you were telling me at Zoo Motorsport I should think so
Old 04-08-2006 | 03:55 PM
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I think stian's one best handling escort's evern
He did won of the gatebil extreme one time and the won drift competion several times
This is fucking fast round a track.
gareth's escort is the best trackspec escort cosworth in the uk for now.
Mike rainbird's escort is also top class.
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But ARE WRC cars the best a car could possibly be for handleing????
(thinking tarmac spec as its closest to what we would use lol)

As surely they are governed/restricted tightly by the regulations, so surely they cant just do what they want??
in the same way they are TOLD what restrictor they can use on turbo ETC.


Obviously im talking 'money no object'..
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Originally Posted by RS500
I think stian's one best handling escort's evern
He did won of the gatebil extreme one time and the won drift competion several times
This is fucking fast round a track.
gareth's escort is the best trackspec escort cosworth in the uk for now.
Mike rainbird's escort is also top class.
Sorry, but I saw alot of the footage from this years gatebil and to me the british driftworks liner with orange wheels looked a hell of alot better than the escort. Driftworks car was proper sideways down all the straights etc and held his drifts longer on the corners.

Not taking anything away from the car or driver as theyre obviously both amazing but I wouldnt be suprised if popularity played a big part in the drift win.


Mike R - How many of the drivers in the handling competition of totb use left foot braking etc?
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Originally Posted by 89XR2
Mike R - How many of the drivers in the handling competition of totb use left foot braking etc?
WTF ? Do you think I am psychic or something (puts fingers to temples and closes eyes) - 3.67 people .
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Mike R - How many of the drivers in the handling competition of totb use left foot braking etc?
WTF ? Do you think I am psychic or something (puts fingers to temples and closes eyes) - 3.67 people .
Hah, well I thought you might be the person to ask as you seem to know alot about totb and assumed you'd been before. And it wouldnt be too hard to spot the people doing it!
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Right think i'll dig this topic back up.

Right my Escort Cossie has AP 4 pots on the front with 330 disc (I think) but has standard rears. If i brake really heavily i feel the back end going light.

How can i stop this??? Do i need to upgrade the back brakes for better balance?? If so what you recommend for a rear set up??
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300mm discs on standard callipers will help balance the car .

See my website .
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
300mm discs on standard callipers will help balance the car .

See my website .
Mike R,

Slightly off topic, but did you ever do a similar post ( spec list ) for your Sapphire. I did try searching but Rainbird and Cosworth and handling brings back most of the board....
Old 16-08-2006 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike1
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
300mm discs on standard callipers will help balance the car .

See my website .
Mike R,

Slightly off topic, but did you ever do a similar post ( spec list ) for your Sapphire. I did try searching but Rainbird and Cosworth and handling brings back most of the board....
Go in the photo gallery and do the same search .

Also full details are in the PF Garage for all the cars .
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https://passionford.com/forum/viewto...432&highlight=

https://passionford.com/forum/viewto...810&highlight=

those the ones?
Old 16-08-2006 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Go in the photo gallery and do the same search .

Also full details are in the PF Garage for all the cars .
Cheers Mike.

If you did that car again would you stick with the same beam or a Zoo one?
Also is the Escos rear ARB worth doing? As it is thicker does it make the car lose grip at the back i.e oversteer more.......or is it one of the cars like the M3 CSL which seems to be an anomaly with regards to conventional ARB behaviour?
Old 16-08-2006 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike1
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Go in the photo gallery and do the same search .

Also full details are in the PF Garage for all the cars .
Cheers Mike.

If you did that car again would you stick with the same beam or a Zoo one?
Also is the Escos rear ARB worth doing? As it is thicker does it make the car lose grip at the back i.e oversteer more.......or is it one of the cars like the M3 CSL which seems to be an anomaly with regards to conventional ARB behaviour?
I would ideally like one of the Grp A ones like on Martin's car.

The thicker ARB allows you to be able to run softer springs for better wheel control over bumps.

I never finished experimenting with the Sapphire and I would reduce the spring rates front and rear more in line to what the Escort is running.
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Aint been on here for years, but I believe I have the ultimate handling Escort. Mine started out looking like this:



And after many many mods and a lot of hours work it now looks like this:



(Sorry I anit got any bigger pics)
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Originally Posted by Sean Bicknell
Aint been on here for years, but I believe I have the ultimate handling Escort. Mine started out looking like this:



And after many many mods and a lot of hours work it now looks like this:



(Sorry I anit got any bigger pics)
Rubbish!!!

Looked better like this!!!!



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Reply to my text Kev you cooooooooooooooooooooont!!!!!!!!!

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What fookin text???

you double cooooooooooooooont!!!
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The thicker ARB allows you to be able to run softer springs for better wheel control over bumps.

I never finished experimenting with the Sapphire and I would reduce the spring rates front and rear more in line to what the Escort is running.
There's no easy upgrade for the front bar on a 2wd then? The 4x4 Sapphire one is different in that it pushes the front wheels forward I believe?
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Correct.
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So Mike, you big gay blade, how the devil are ya???

Hope the family are well!

You learnt to drive yet?
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Originally Posted by Sean Bicknell
Aint been on here for years, but I believe I have the ultimate handling Escort. Mine started out looking like this:



And after many many mods and a lot of hours work it now looks like this:



(Sorry I anit got any bigger pics)
Old 17-08-2006 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Sean Bicknell
So Mike, you big gay blade, how the devil are ya???

Hope the family are well!

You learnt to drive yet?
Every one is fine thanks , hope you and yours are all . Will we be seeing you at ND?

Let me drive your car, and I'll show you . Don't be embarrassed if my times are quicker, you can just put it down to "power to weight" if that makes you feel better .
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Originally Posted by Sean Bicknell
Sorry I anit got any bigger pics
Sean
How you doing matey

Just checked my Worlds Fastest Rollerscate File & found this Larger Picture of your car

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Click pics to enlarge





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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
300mm discs on standard callipers will help balance the car .

See my website .
Think i'll have to get a set of them ordered. theres just to many things on your site that i want to buy.

Carbon front lip/hockey sticks
Carbon exhaust surround. (Got any pics of that fitted to a car???)
Fix it gear kit (What are these like noise wise?)
300mm rear discs

I'm already counting the coppers

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Originally Posted by Hybrid-Chris
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
300mm discs on standard callipers will help balance the car .

See my website .
Think i'll have to get a set of them ordered. theres just to many things on your site that i want to buy.

Carbon front lip/hockey sticks
Carbon exhaust surround. (Got any pics of that fitted to a car???)
Fix it gear kit (What are these like noise wise?)
300mm rear discs

I'm already counting the coppers

win a lottery
Old 17-08-2006 | 10:33 PM
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heres mine last weekend.
At the start line.




Leda fully adj coilovers
500lbs front
400lbs rear (still experimenting)
weight 1126Kg
with driver 1209Kg

Front right. weight 330kg
Castor 4. 48'
Camber 1.48' neg
toe in 1.1

Front left. weight 371kg
Castor 4. 48'
Camber 1.48' neg
toe in 1.1

Rear right weight 255kg
Camber 1. 36' neg
toe out 1.2' (needs attention).

Rear left weight 254kg.
Camber 2.12' neg
toe in 0.6

Gp A rear end should be on the way soon.

Brakes
Front AP 330mm disks
CP5200 calipers
Ferodo 2500

Rear. AP CP5000 295mm Disks (thanks Mike)
CP5040 calipers
Ferodo 2500

Wheels. Dry
MO's 8Jx17ET15

Wheels wet
Team Dynamics 9Jx17ET23

Tyres dry.
Avon slicks A11.
230/620 R17.
2.0bar front
1.9bar rear.

Tyres wet
Dunlop
235/620R17
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