General Car Related Discussion. To discuss anything that is related to cars and automotive technology that doesnt naturally fit into another forum catagory.

Tracking on a FWD trackday car

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-07-2006 | 04:05 PM
  #1  
Fiecos Dan's Avatar
Fiecos Dan
Thread Starter
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,775
Likes: 0
From: S/E Kent, Thanet
Default Tracking on a FWD trackday car

I've always set my Toe to 1mm toe in (overall, measure from rims) to help understeer. (well thats what i was recommended on my 4wd cossie)


But is this correct for a FWD??




Also looked thro Std ford settings,

FRST setting is 1-3mm toe out,
Xr2's are 2-4mm toe out,
1983+ Escorts arw 1.5-3.5mm toe out

Where do ford say the toe should be measured from?

i ask as the if the Toe is quoted in minute's or degrees it dont matter where its measured, but if quoted in mm, the points of measurement make a huge difference....


Cheers Danny
Old 08-07-2006 | 04:10 PM
  #2  
Fiecos Dan's Avatar
Fiecos Dan
Thread Starter
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,775
Likes: 0
From: S/E Kent, Thanet
Default

Edited see above
Old 08-07-2006 | 10:16 PM
  #3  
Fiecos Dan's Avatar
Fiecos Dan
Thread Starter
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,775
Likes: 0
From: S/E Kent, Thanet
Default

Old 09-07-2006 | 09:52 AM
  #4  
Fiecos Dan's Avatar
Fiecos Dan
Thread Starter
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,775
Likes: 0
From: S/E Kent, Thanet
Default

BTTT
Old 10-07-2006 | 07:17 PM
  #5  
Fiecos Dan's Avatar
Fiecos Dan
Thread Starter
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,775
Likes: 0
From: S/E Kent, Thanet
Default

Old 10-07-2006 | 07:30 PM
  #6  
Rs1's Avatar
Rs1
Advanced PassionFord User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,587
Likes: 0
From: Newcastle
Default

I always set my old golf at 1 degree toe in with 0.5-1 degree negative on the camber.
Old 10-07-2006 | 09:14 PM
  #7  
Fiecos Dan's Avatar
Fiecos Dan
Thread Starter
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,775
Likes: 0
From: S/E Kent, Thanet
Default

Cheers mate,

But that would understeer badly if a 180+bhp??
Old 16-07-2006 | 11:46 PM
  #8  
Fiecos Dan's Avatar
Fiecos Dan
Thread Starter
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,775
Likes: 0
From: S/E Kent, Thanet
Default

Yesterday, i set the car up in my garage, so it was level all round

Then i measured, 4 wheel Toe, camber and castor all round

It come out like this

Front, modded camber, and poly bushes.
toe = 2mm out,
camber n/s = -2' 30", o/s = -2' 15"
castor n/s = +0' 30", o/s = +0' 23"

Rear, Still std bushes and beam.
Toe, n/s = in 2mm, o/s = out 3mm = total in 1mm toe out.
camber, n/s = -0' 8", o/s = -0' 11"




After a day of playing with the suspension to day,

including

- shorterning the tie bars by 17mm each side, making new washers and fitting new poly bushes,
- cutting and welding the n/s tie bar to miss the gearbox casing,
- cutting the front arches and body kit to stop any tyre scrub ( as now the wheel sits 2 mm away from front of the arch)
- going for a drive to settle all mod's and bushes.
- Checking Toe and adjusting to no toe, checking camber and castor.
- and finally going for a hard test drive round the local track ( the loop)

It does seem to understeer less, but it still does round roundabouts whilst pushing it.

The setting now sit at

Front,
0 toe,
camber n/s = -1' 38", o/s = -1' 23"
castor n/s = +3' 00", o/s = +2' 45"

Rear, Still std bushes and beam.
Toe, n/s = in 2mm, o/s = out 3mm = total in 1mm toe out.
camber, n/s = -0' 8", o/s = -0' 11"

So now i'm gonna put more camber on fronts, and fit new poly bushes on rear and space beam out to get even toe of 0 toe, and put camber to -1' 30"
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
saph in dorset
General Car Related Discussion.
0
14-08-2015 10:10 AM
track.focus'd
Restorations, Rebuilds & Projects.
26
12-08-2015 05:53 PM
Versus_Creations
Pictures, video & Photoshop Forum
24
05-08-2015 09:32 PM
COLEYST200
General Car Related Discussion.
1
03-08-2015 08:55 AM



Quick Reply: Tracking on a FWD trackday car



All times are GMT. The time now is 01:17 AM.