Jimboxr4x4

At the risk of the caravan and other pikey related jokes can someone give me some advice re spraying from a can? I had an attempt at spraying a grille and it came out like this:



(this is without cutting back or polishing at all - just straight from the can as it were)

In the past when i've tried its always come out patchy but this time I used a lot more paint making it look wet. I also applied a lot more laquer and a lot more evenly and it seems to give a much better uniform and shiney finish. Is it far to say this looks okay? Any opinions would be welcomed and can someone confirm my thinking above.

Cheers.

NUTS RuS

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Looks okay to me.

Can you do my bonnet please

I think the term is flood coat rather than dust coat, well thats what I call it because I have a dodgy gun

Jimboxr4x4

Cheers. My thinking is if I can get okay results from a can on a small area like a grille then maybe I can get good results with some proper equipment. Its booked into a bodyshop in three weeks for quite a bit of work as I don't for one second think I can spray body panels from a can.

Am I right it thinking it is easier to keep it uniform from proper spray equipment as I think it must be easy to either apply too much or too little paint when doing it from a can.

Also, what else should I do with regards to rubbing it down (1500 grit?) or cutting back or should I just leave it now? Cheers.

Toe Knee

iTrader: (2)

Tony, get it to me and i'll do it bit of a mission from where u are thou

Right basically if its come out shit before its prob been 2 dry or not even.

Long and the short of it is when u apply basecoat u want to overlap it 50%, not as easy with a can but thats how u apply it with a gun!!! 2-3 full coats is usually enough to cover, and if its slightly patchy if you do a drop coat from higher up in a diagonal direction it can get rid of patchyness and make sure theres enuff sparkle, assuming its metallic.
But basically dont get it too wet with each coat as it'll cause stripey lines and takes ages 2 dry etc.

With laquer as you have done u want to get it one 'wet' not dry or it'll be patchy as fook but not 2 wet or it'll sag/run like fook!!!
With laquer u usually do a grip (light) coat the a full coat, then another full coat if needed, althou with a can its alot thinner so can prob benefit from a few full coats as needed!!!

anything else u need 2 know just ask

Toe Knee

iTrader: (2)

Just seen ur other reply

Yea its alot easier 2 control and apply with the proper stuff mate, and not as difficult as u think trust me

90% of it is in prep work!!!!!

If u wanted to flat it and polish it then yea 1500grit and some G3 or something 2 bring back the shine, but if ur happy with it dont bother!!

Jimboxr4x4

Toe Knee thats really good advice. A couple more quick questions if you don't mind:

1. Do you spray the laquer on when the paint is still damp as I did above? Some say leave to dry and wet and dry the base coat then laquer and some laquer straight onto the damp base coat.

2. Do I need to wet and dry the laquer or use cutting compound or just leave it as it is and just use car polish in a day or two?

Many thanks.

Rick

1. Spray Laquer as soon as u can.

2. Flat it down, then compound. Will give a MUCH better finish.

Toe Knee

iTrader: (2)

Right its best to let it 'flash off' first before u apply laquer, basically once its gone matt. Its not techincally 100% dry but the solvent, as its from a can or water if eg it was water based has evaporated.

Once its flashed dont touch it with anything!!! only thing u might wanna do is tack rag it off if theres any dust on it but u shouldnt need 2, if u laquer before its flashed it can totally change the colour!!!

Then laquer onto it as said

If your happy with the finish dont touch it and just polish it as and when its needed, if u wanna nib bits of dust out or get rid of orange peel then use some 1500grit wet and dry. Compounds used 2 get the shine back from where u have flatted it down, takes a bit of elbow greese if doing it by hand thou easier to use a mop to do it but with something small like that u have 2 be carefull incase it catchs and cracks it, trust me i know i fuckeds a mates fibreglass grill trying to rush it and using a mop

Jimboxr4x4

Many thanks for the advice. Really useful info.

Damo V

Listen to Toeknee

IMO I wouldnt flat an item like that, as its all curves and edges... asking for trouble ESPECIALLY considering its from a can so the clear will be piss thin....

what I would do is nib any bits of dust or areas a little orangey with a used (important) piece of 2000 grade W/D

then compound by hand and polish, BUT as its so thin and wont go diamond hard such as 2k

you will get away with "flatting" it just by using the compond alone.... BUT be careful too much and you will rub through

HTH

Rick

in this heat, that would be dry before u know it!

Toe Knee

iTrader: (2)

In this heat yea but its general advice for any time of the year

Best to give the right way of doing it rather than saying laquer it straight away just cos its hot! but yea will flash like fuck in this weather


Been a nitemare the last couple days at our place, booths have been about 30oC at the mo 2 spray in you'd think being mclaren the booths would have aircon but no

Agree with damo actually use 2000 to be safe not 1500

Jimboxr4x4

Cheers. When you say 'compound' do you mean a rubbing paste or similar?

Damo V

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Charlie Chalk

iTrader: (1)

Damn Tony


How did I miss this

But yeah.. Follow the chaps advice

Jimboxr4x4

Many thanks to all for their advice. Going to let the bodyshop do my current car (needs 2 rear and 1 front wing and a bonnet spraying) but will definately get some proper spraying kit at some time and have a go myself. I'm happy with the grille though so at least if anyone asks about my car I can say I sprayed it myself and won't be telling complete lies

mark

looks ok

want to give my car a blow over next year if i still have it

Toe Knee

iTrader: (2)

Only thing i can say if u get ur own stuff is make sure u get the right set-ups for what u want on the gun side of things, and a big enough compressor, smaller ones will run out of puff depending what ur doing, nothing like runing out of air when ur trying to do a funn respray

PhilM

Grille looks great mate

Toe Knee/Damo, can you guys offer any advise for as to what kind of compressor I should be looking to buy? Fancy doing some spraying once in a while, and use some smaller airtools aswell (inflator, air ratchet etc). Would 50ltr/2HP be OK?

What sort of gun should I be looking at aswell?

Thanks guys

AGAR-COSWORTH

Some very sound advice about - i did my homework before spraying my bodykit - some of it still needs laquered some more. Just need to sand down with 2000 wet and dry then re-laquer.

AGAR-COSWORTH

This is with spray cans btw

KW-rscos

If i wanted to freshen up a part, do i have to sand back to plastic and primer or can i just sand rub down and re-paint? same colour just wondered, not for concours or anything just need to freshen up.