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Simple way round this is to just ban all the fucking religions. Then, just maybe everybody could get on.
I had to spend 3 years at school studying Religions and I firmly beleive they are all equally as bad as each other
I had to spend 3 years at school studying Religions and I firmly beleive they are all equally as bad as each other
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
Simple way round this is to just ban all the fucking religeons. Then, just maybe everybody could get on.
I had to spend 3 years at school studying Religeons and I firmly beleive they are all equally as bad as each other
I had to spend 3 years at school studying Religeons and I firmly beleive they are all equally as bad as each other
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muslim is not a race but a religion. anyone could be muslim no matter their skin colour. although i do not believe in a seperate day for them, their is no racism involved. both halal and haram food is sold at alton towers so what is the problem? why take haram off? they follow their set way of life and other religions do theirs.
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Originally Posted by Matt J
Originally Posted by Oranoco
Simple way round this is to just ban all the fucking religeons. Then, just maybe everybody could get on.
I had to spend 3 years at school studying Religeons and I firmly beleive they are all equally as bad as each other
I had to spend 3 years at school studying Religeons and I firmly beleive they are all equally as bad as each other
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
Simple way round this is to just ban all the fucking religions. Then, just maybe everybody could get on.
I had to spend 3 years at school studying Religions and I firmly beleive they are all equally as bad as each other
I had to spend 3 years at school studying Religions and I firmly beleive they are all equally as bad as each other
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Originally Posted by Matt J
I think we will all agree that people like the above are more than welcome into our country, the reason muslims get such stick is because they want special treatment, even the non extremists dont want to integrate and seem dead set against fitting in.
we've got in in southall as well, but this time with the somalians
there are 2 sections of the braodway that have become somalia central, and when you walk through them you know that the people there have gone there specificly to be with other somalians
fair enough if you can't speak thelingo, but sometimes yu come across someone who has not even the basics of english and they have to get one of their friends to interpret
this is probably what the native indigenous population thought when we started to stay in and around southall so i can see the hyprocrasy angle here
the thing is though, they are mainly irish
so they moved out when the indians came
and now the indians are moving out because the somalians are ocming
it's all one viscous circle and until you get the sort of people who are willing tointergrate with the local comunity, while, at the same time, keeping their own identity, you wil lhave this localised problem
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EVEN IF 1% of the muslim population in this country WERE terrorists,
there would be 20,000 people wanting to blow stuff up in this country!
and i REALLY dont think there are that many people out there terrorising
the place! else we'd be seeing bombs goin off all over the show!!!
Media frenzy has Blown this out of all proportion
it must be what, 0.1% of the muslim population IF THAT (2,000 people)
that are 'active terrorists' in this country..
and even that seems Crazy, as it CANT be anythign like surely?
not proper bomb making types anyway!
things are being made to look a lot worse than it is.
so would you really 'nuke' 2 MILLION people for what 2,000 AT VERY MOST 'MIGHT' be doing???
are you people related to hitler
(no offence intended, but you see my point??)
there would be 20,000 people wanting to blow stuff up in this country!
and i REALLY dont think there are that many people out there terrorising
the place! else we'd be seeing bombs goin off all over the show!!!
Media frenzy has Blown this out of all proportion
it must be what, 0.1% of the muslim population IF THAT (2,000 people)
that are 'active terrorists' in this country..
and even that seems Crazy, as it CANT be anythign like surely?
not proper bomb making types anyway!
things are being made to look a lot worse than it is.
so would you really 'nuke' 2 MILLION people for what 2,000 AT VERY MOST 'MIGHT' be doing???
are you people related to hitler
(no offence intended, but you see my point??)
Maybe there isn't that many of them terrorists, maybe there is but what is clear is that plenty aren't willing to make the effort to live here as we all have to. They will agrue, criticise our ways and Riot over the simpliest of things, IE Bradford riots, london protests etc etc. This is not good and one day could lead to big problems over here.
Condiering they are suppsoedly minority they sure do kick up a stink and make some noise, considering how many non muslims live here.
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oh and what joeE30 said about jihad and qu'ran is very true, it is interpreted in their own way, men sometimes oppress women to cover their faces up because it says so in the qu'an but NOWHERE does it say to do so, just dress modestly. so the 'jihad' the terrorists use an excuse is military jihad which is stupid because it when they are fighting for their religion like it is in danger or a bad leader has come into control, it is not meant to be used unless needed and not to try and make the world follow their religion.
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Originally Posted by Matt J
but what would happen if I booked it and advertised it as a non-muslim day? I think this is the point being made.
This is nothing like someone organising a non-muslim day.
It's just a day organised by muslims that's allows some of them to attend when they usually can't. Yes that's because of their religion but guess what... we live in a free country.
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im leaving this post now and not bothering to read again.
it's embarrasing to associate myself with some of the shit being spouted.
everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but you need to have your own opinion based on all the facts, and that is NOT what i'm seeing here. what i'm seeing is mob culture taking over a very serial sociological discussion, and it's terrifying.
it's embarrasing to associate myself with some of the shit being spouted.
everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but you need to have your own opinion based on all the facts, and that is NOT what i'm seeing here. what i'm seeing is mob culture taking over a very serial sociological discussion, and it's terrifying.
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
Simple way round this is to just ban all the fucking religions. Then, just maybe everybody could get on.
I had to spend 3 years at school studying Religions and I firmly beleive they are all equally as bad as each other
I had to spend 3 years at school studying Religions and I firmly beleive they are all equally as bad as each other
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Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
im leaving this post now and not bothering to read again.
it's embarrasing to associate myself with some of the shit being spouted.
everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but you need to have your own opinion based on all the facts, and that is NOT what i'm seeing here. what i'm seeing is mob culture taking over a very serial sociological discussion, and it's terrifying.
it's embarrasing to associate myself with some of the shit being spouted.
everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but you need to have your own opinion based on all the facts, and that is NOT what i'm seeing here. what i'm seeing is mob culture taking over a very serial sociological discussion, and it's terrifying.
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Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
im leaving this post now and not bothering to read again.
it's embarrasing to associate myself with some of the shit being spouted.
everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but you need to have your own opinion based on all the facts, and that is NOT what i'm seeing here. what i'm seeing is mob culture taking over a very serial sociological discussion, and it's terrifying.
it's embarrasing to associate myself with some of the shit being spouted.
everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but you need to have your own opinion based on all the facts, and that is NOT what i'm seeing here. what i'm seeing is mob culture taking over a very serial sociological discussion, and it's terrifying.
surlely this would be the time to see what others are saying and state your counter arguements?
otherwise you are going to turn into another jon gaunt, if you don't agree with what he says, he cuts you off and won't listen to your point of view.....................
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Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
im leaving this post now and not bothering to read again.
it's embarrasing to associate myself with some of the shit being spouted.
everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but you need to have your own opinion based on all the facts, and that is NOT what i'm seeing here. what i'm seeing is mob culture taking over a very serial sociological discussion, and it's terrifying.
it's embarrasing to associate myself with some of the shit being spouted.
everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but you need to have your own opinion based on all the facts, and that is NOT what i'm seeing here. what i'm seeing is mob culture taking over a very serial sociological discussion, and it's terrifying.
but i still don't hold a grudge
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
Originally Posted by blahblahcarsblah
Originally Posted by Oranoco
Simple way round this is to just ban all the fucking religions. Then, just maybe everybody could get on.
I had to spend 3 years at school studying Religions and I firmly beleive they are all equally as bad as each other
I had to spend 3 years at school studying Religions and I firmly beleive they are all equally as bad as each other
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Our neighbours are emigrating to Oz - nothing to do with immigration here but plenty to do with the quality of government.
He has had to show that he can afford to support himself and his family and has been given a business visa allowing them to go there and live. But in the first two years he has to have created a company over there employing local people (not, his own family) - if he doesn't he gets deported. Then he has another set of targets for year 5 and only after achieving these does he get a permanent visa.
Contrast that to the situation over here - how many toilet cleaners do we need to import when all the wee neds, chavs and single mums are able to live on the dole at taxpayers expense - then they whine about their rights but they haven't worked a day or contributed a penny?
He has had to show that he can afford to support himself and his family and has been given a business visa allowing them to go there and live. But in the first two years he has to have created a company over there employing local people (not, his own family) - if he doesn't he gets deported. Then he has another set of targets for year 5 and only after achieving these does he get a permanent visa.
Contrast that to the situation over here - how many toilet cleaners do we need to import when all the wee neds, chavs and single mums are able to live on the dole at taxpayers expense - then they whine about their rights but they haven't worked a day or contributed a penny?
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i never said i held a grudge!!! i just understand why they do things which i can then put forward a fair argument!
quick history lesson for anyone who's intrested (dumbed down but you get the point)
islam in the middle east
decides it wants to take over the world
moves eastwards towards indian subcontinent
the people are forced to switch allegiances and become mulisms and embrace islam of they are put to the sword
so, pakistan is now conquered
then comes punjab (punj = 5 jab = rivers)
where there is a bit of resistance
scroll forward to april 13/14 1699
when one bloke decides to start his new religion to thwart the advaces of the islamic fanatics
and there you have it, the start of sikhism
so, we sikhs "should" feel reaally pissed about the muslims, but we don't because we have been taught that everyone is equal no matter what they believe
if they choose not to believe in our ways then so be it
end of lesson
the muslims tend to take intergration as meaning that everyone should become muslim, rather than that they should be able to intergrate into scociety as a whole, even if this means they don't have to change religion
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Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
im leaving this post now and not bothering to read again.Fine goodbye
it's embarrasing to associate myself with some of the shit being spouted. Agree some people have writen shite
everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but you need to have your own opinion based on all the facts, and that is NOT what i'm seeing here. what i'm seeing is mob culture taking over a very serial sociological discussion, and it's terrifying.
it's embarrasing to associate myself with some of the shit being spouted. Agree some people have writen shite
everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but you need to have your own opinion based on all the facts, and that is NOT what i'm seeing here. what i'm seeing is mob culture taking over a very serial sociological discussion, and it's terrifying.
2nd how terrifying is us lot having a opinion, compared to even on extremist terrorist killing 50 people???
Strange how you are happy to have people killed but not us typing on here...............
Bye Jim, next time you want to get involved in a disscusion of something important i hope you have some sort of idea of what you are talking about and can actually bring some thing to the table......
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the muslims tend to take intergration as meaning that everyone should become muslim
no more beer and bacon sarnies! fuck that, they can stick there belives up there aRSe
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Originally Posted by dojj
the muslims tend to take intergration as meaning that everyone should become muslim
no more beer and bacon sarnies! fuck that, they can stick there belives up there aRSe
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Originally Posted by dojj
quick history lesson for anyone who's intrested (dumbed down but you get the point)
islam in the middle east
decides it wants to take over the world
moves eastwards towards indian subcontinent
the people are forced to switch allegiances and become mulisms and embrace islam of they are put to the sword
so, pakistan is now conquered
then comes punjab (punj = 5 jab = rivers)
where there is a bit of resistance
scroll forward to april 13/14 1699
when one bloke decides to start his new religion to thwart the advaces of the islamic fanatics
and there you have it, the start of sikhism
so, we sikhs "should" feel reaally pissed about the muslims, but we don't because we have been taught that everyone is equal no matter what they believe
if they choose not to believe in our ways then so be it
end of lesson
the muslims tend to take intergration as meaning that everyone should become muslim, rather than that they should be able to intergrate into scociety as a whole, even if this means they don't have to change religion
So we see why they cant integrate, its in their religion to invade and turn everyone into a muslim, sort of explains alot.
Why cant we have a more strict immigration policy? the above example of Australia shows it can be done without any adverse effects on the ecconomy or way of life, Oz seems to be doing ok the last time I looked
Soft touch thats what our problem is, "come in, everythings free and life is easy because all the natives will pay for your way of life"
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Originally Posted by Iain Mac
Contrast that to the situation over here - how many toilet cleaners do we need to import when all the wee neds, chavs and single mums are able to live on the dole at taxpayers expense - then they whine about their rights but they haven't worked a day or contributed a penny?
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Originally Posted by Steve200+
Yes. I am also bringing a pig. He likes merry-go-rounds, and it's a free country. (last time I checked).
That point aside...
When i used to live in Bradford - a local nightclub tried holding an 'Asian Only R&B Night'. It caused an outcry.
They managed about 20 minutes before the police shut it down due to the tension that was brewing through the whole city centre.
It's so frustrating that political correctness only seems to work for the minorities...
This country really is on it's arse
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