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Old 25-06-2006, 11:01 AM
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Default Anyone fitted aftermarket traction control?

A mate has a Zetec Turbo fiesta and hes said hes getting sick of the wheel spin and tyre smoke.

What have you got and how do you rate it?
Old 25-06-2006, 12:13 PM
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Race-Logics traction control is supposed to be pretty good.
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Originally Posted by mcrmatt1983
Race-Logics traction control is supposed to be pretty good.
Its actually total shite & I removed it from mine a placed in nearest bin.
Accleration did not improve & it always sounded as if it was F***ed.
Im hoping that Autronic SM4 will provide decent results when its connected up.
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Old 25-06-2006, 04:37 PM
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Default Re: Anyone fitted aftermarket traction control?

Originally Posted by Johnny Knoxville
A mate has a Zetec Turbo fiesta and hes said hes getting sick of the wheel spin and tyre smoke.
so don't press the pedal down so far
Old 25-06-2006, 04:39 PM
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PMSL @ Richm

Why do people expect miracles from FWD cars with over 150 bhp
Old 25-06-2006, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SECS
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Why do people expect miracles from FWD cars with over 150 bhp
precisely.. crap traction is a design feature of FWD
Only time it should be allowed is if it's assisting the rear wheels
Old 25-06-2006, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SECS
Why do people expect miracles from FWD cars with over 150 bhp
Absolutely right...............anything over about 180 in an FWD car is difficult to get down properly..............
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There are 2 methods for traction control....


1) As wheel spin is detected, the ignition is retarded or boost lowered
to reduce total engine output power to stop the loss of grip.
Result - The car slows down !

2) Using ABS servos of the braking system (if fitted on the car).
When wheel slip is detected, the brake on the spinning wheel is
activated electronically momentarily.
The result, power is diverted to the wheel that isnt spinning.
Result - The non spinning wheel will probally start to spin.
Old 25-06-2006, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SECS
There are 2 methods for traction control....


1) As wheel spin is detected, the ignition is retarded or boost lowered
to reduce total engine output power to stop the loss of grip.
Result - The car slows down !

2) Using ABS servos of the braking system (if fitted on the car).
When wheel slip is detected, the brake on the spinning wheel is
activated electronically momentarily.
The result, power is diverted to the wheel that isnt spinning.
Result - The non spinning wheel will probally start to spin.


Is that how most modern day traction control works OE on cars simon??
or just aftermarket ones like has been talked about above??
Old 25-06-2006, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SECS
There are 2 methods for traction control....


1) As wheel spin is detected, the ignition is retarded or boost lowered
to reduce total engine output power to stop the loss of grip.
Result - The car slows down !

2) Using ABS servos of the braking system (if fitted on the car).
When wheel slip is detected, the brake on the spinning wheel is
activated electronically momentarily.
The result, power is diverted to the wheel that isnt spinning.
Result - The non spinning wheel will probally start to spin.


Is that how most modern day traction control works OE on cars simon??
or just aftermarket ones like has been talked about above??
Old 25-06-2006, 05:04 PM
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Yes but also with trick differentials like on some cars e.g. skyline, they can
electronically regulate power distribution for all conditions.
Old 25-06-2006, 05:15 PM
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would a boost controller be a better option (lower boost levels in lower gears)?
Old 25-06-2006, 05:19 PM
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yes
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Go RWD and enjoy it
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good as i have the e-boost waiting to be fitted to mine


any good? anyone using it?


if not what one should i be looking to use
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Buy an LSD and learn how to drive

Seriously though set the car up well, mine must have in the region of 300bhp and you can easily race on the roads from 2nd gear onwards in the dry.
Old 25-06-2006, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by timrud
Buy an LSD and learn how to drive

Seriously though set the car up well, mine must have in the region of 300bhp and you can easily race on the roads from 2nd gear onwards in the dry.
As we all know Vauxhall's seem to put the power down though Tim!
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I've never driven a big power RST, or FWD Ford, so I can't say I can personally compare!

But looking how they go on the 1/4 mile, like for like the Vauxhalls seem to do a little better!

Wonder why that is??? Heavier engines?
Old 25-06-2006, 06:15 PM
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Talk to brom about new front arms etc, FAR better to increase traction to aid grip that to artificially lower power to stop you exceeding it!

At Tim says, PROPER CARS (ie vauxhalls ) have no problem putting the power down
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I've a feeling we will get flamed to death for this Chip
Old 25-06-2006, 06:18 PM
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Its a serious point though Tim, the problem is NOT that he has "too much power" its just that its got fuck all grip!

I know how i personally would want to be solving that problem and its not by lowering the amount of power!
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Very true!

Power is useless if it cannot be utilised.

I'll stand by my original point, spend your money on getting the car setup correctly (be it with a trip to Zoo or whatever! ), rather than Traction Control.
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
Talk to brom about new front arms etc, FAR better to increase traction to aid grip that to artificially lower power to stop you exceeding it!

At Tim says, PROPER CARS (ie vauxhalls ) have no problem putting the power down
I said it first, and i've got a FWD Ford!

Watched a Nova in British Rallycross today and that was awesome, shat all over a 2.4 Mk3 Fiesta!
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You get any pics or anything dude?

I love the rallycross Novas
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