Stavros

Remember on that other post I said there was a few things done I didnt think was possible, and you asked in what way, well just found some pics...

Check this, this is Brooklands corner, so the car is travelling from RIGHT to LEFT of this pic, at 100mph+




Thats like 120deg to the direction of travel

Even 90deg is next to impossible without spinning, esp at speed, but 120deg I didnt think was possible full stop, never ever seen that before, but this guy was managing it all the time, and therefore was hitting the first clipping point on the inside of the corner with ease.

So there you go, had to see it really, but I was standing with a few people who compete in Eurodrift etc and even they couldnt believe it was possible, amazing.

Porkie

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Anonymous

Thats sums it up rather well!



fooking legend!

Mike Rainbird

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I would give my left testicle to be able to drive like that : cry:.

St3V3_C

Cool.

Somewhere I've seen a vid clip of a rally driver on a hairpin.

He throws it round and the car is actually going exactly backwards for a bit before fucking off out of the bend. Mental stuff...

Anonymous

Tiff gave up both for far far less

Mark B

chip-3door

haha

that guy has some skill, at first i was like cool hes traveling at some speed sideways then u said in what direction thats mentle,

MB.

Shings

In Ice racing they do similar-- almost backwards before the corner

Terry Tibbs

Holy fuck, just realised which direction he's going

Stavros

Slightly (understatment of the year) easier doing it on Ice/Gravel at under 60mph to doing it on Tarmac at 100mph+ on 265wide tyres tho

Never seen anything like it ever, still cant quite fathom in my head exactly how he wasnt spinning, but hey, hes now my hero

Click here for larger versions of the above pics, so can see wheel clearer and so on...

http://doristars.com/v-web/gallery/a...2/DSC_0650.jpg
http://doristars.com/v-web/gallery/a...2/DSC_0651.jpg

gurnE

I know the exact clip you mean. An Evo wasn't it? I can't remember the drivers name but that's an awsome bit of driving

St3V3_C

Not sure - just remember he wasn't English

Was real close to a telegraph pole or something too

RichardPON

Gigi Galli was the driver.

Clip:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...37149385488840

RichardPON

Are the rear wheels still spinning Steve, ro are four wheels locked?

gurnE

That was him

_DAN_

http://www.allmotorlink.com/galli_video/gigi_6.wmv

RichardPON

Here's the better quality link:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/44427/rally_action/

Steve - you got any vid footage of this?

Stavros

Spinning of course, locked and your go off in a cloud of smoke, not to mention score shit points, and slow down far too much.
Handbrake is tweaked to initiate the drift 100m or so before the corner, but rarely for long enough to even notice it, goes from spinning fast, to locked, to fast with clouds of smoke, in a fraction of a second.

No vid footage of it, Option own exclusive video footage to all D1 events so nothing ever appears barring on Option DVDs.

What he was doing was similar to in that rally vid, but at about 3 times the speed, and not locked wheels, was off the charts.

Lot easier to do what he did in the rally vid due to 4wd pulling you out of it.

Porkie

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What do the Japs think of Silverstone and Rockingham of Venues for drifting Steve?

RichardPON

The only reason I asked if the rear wheels were locked is that you don't necessarily spin straight off if all four wheels are locked at the same time.

I'm guessing the momentum of the vehicle simply overcomes any forces acting ...........

Must look incredible in the flesh - I used to be able to drive like that on Sega Rally

Mark B

any pix of me pole dancing steev?

MB.

Stavros

MarkB- Not yet, not seen those pics as the report aint gonna be in yet.

Obviously im not fluent in Jap, but know enough of the people to get this much info...

At Rockingham the Jap judges wanted the course changed a bit to make it harder as it was too easy in their eyes, but that made it too hard for UK peeps so they changed it back.

At Silverstone you got no choice of track really, they dont seem to mind it, but its pretty easy for them, and nice and fast, but the gravel traps make it a bit gay, concrete walls to get as close to as poss are much better

The Jap judges made it harder at Silverstone by making the first clipping point on the inside just after brooklands, that made it so hard that I dont think a single European car hit that, esp on the Saturday, but the Japs were just doing crazy shit like that 120deg angles so could hit it easy.

MWF

Totally begs belief that does.

I can't fathom how the physics work.

Driver is clearly 'The One' and has taken the red pill.

Mark B

Stavros

haha ok mate,

you heading up to the knockhill event?

MB.

Anonymous

Stavros, so i take it that the gulf between euro and jap drivers IS massive then?

I figured by now it would be closing massively, but that doesnt sound like it.

Porkie

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Renton says on style and angles and stuff they can compete Chip, BUT when it comes to the twin drifting the japs are on another planet speed wise.

Steve will say if thats right or wrong.

Stavros

Yes and no.

The best of the UK lot are amazing, but Japs are still better, most of that is car spec (Jap lot have got so much grip, 265/275 wide tyres and almost zero camber, mental) and tactics tho.

On practice sesh where the Jap and UK lot were out together you could see the UK ones noticably improving just by watching the lines etc the Japs took, makes you up your game a lot more where the competition is harder.

Tactics meant that the Jap lot totally destroyed the UK cars in the twin drifting tho, they miles faster, with 160bhp AE86s pulling away from 400bhp+ UK cars...

Japs been doing this as a sport since the late 70s tho.

Almost as good in some respects, Phil for example was entering the first corner just as fast and initiating the drift just as early as Kazama who is world champ, but Kazama stayed going that fast the whole time...

EDIT- Porkie jus beat me

MWF

Was going to say.

I mean how old is competition drifting in this country really, especially on this scale of speed.

Lambchop

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BLOODY HELL!

i had a total blond moment there and took a couple of posts to realise that the car is heading to the right...here was me thinking woop dee doo


Mark B
Is there something at Knockhill is there? When?

Mark B

lol the cars heading to the left mate

on the 1st of july theres a time attack an D1 thingy

check the site www.knockhill.com

MB.

Bullett

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damn thats a seriously talented guy! i cant even drive that well when im dreaming!
ive got a mate who does drifitng and he is normally out on days with julian smith,he can drive a car,but nuffin like that. must admit though julian can handle his cars though.crazy

St3V3_C

That's the clip guys

MWF

Inspired by seeing this I actually tried it last night and did the same. The girlfriend was not impressed at all she cuffed me round the ear and took the trolly off me.

St3V3_C

LOL

I've had that same clip round the ear, but with a suitcase trolley on the ramps at Gatwick

cossies4eva

heres the video i made of him going at a stupid angle into the corner



got plenty more too if your interested??

Stavros

Cool man

Was that Sunday? He was going madder than that in Saturdays practice, that looked more 90deg than his 120odd he was doing, not sure, awesome still tho

MWF

Steve have you got any comparable shots of other cars at the same point? Just focusing on the inside front tyre and wondering if it's the small contact patch on this wheel that's allowing him to do it. Looks to me like there may even be some smoke coming off it, but speculating a bit there.

cossies4eva

Nah that was the saturday.

Stavros

Was running 235wide R888s on the front, about the same as everyone else was running.

Heres a thread about it here, and reasons from people who CAN drift on how he was managing it, way better than just us guessing, lol...
http://www.driftworks.co.uk/forum/sh...ad.php?t=19420

Heres another from a similar viewpoint, and he was better than the others TBH (in a 160bhp car!)...
http://doristars.com/v-web/gallery/a...6/DSC_0083.jpg

Forgot to say, Kawabata managed it a couple of times...
http://doristars.com/v-web/gallery/a...2/DSC_0641.jpg
http://doristars.com/v-web/gallery/a...2/DSC_0642.jpg

RichardPON

Would love to have seen this in the flesh.

The corner entry speeds are simpl ridiculous though! I've got to get myself to a drift skool thing.....